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#1 luizmessora

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:24 AM

Hey everyone. I got a POD X3 bean and a M-Audio UNO MIDI-USB interface and i'd like to connect them to my computer (which is a Mac). However, as far as I'm concerned, the X3 bean does not have a MIDI output/input (which is kind of odd since the lower-end POD 2.0 does) and I'm trouble here..

 

What I want to do is very simple: just use my headphones to listen to what i'm playing in my guitar through the POD and to music playing from my computer at the same time. If I connect my headphone to the headphone jack in my POD and connect the POD to my Mac directly via USB, I can use the POD as my soundcard, right? So any sounds coming from the computer would be played through the POD to my headphones in the same way my guitar playing would, right? Most of the time I'm just playing along songs I have here, and if i can just play something on iTunes and hear it on the same headphone I'm using with my POD that would be great, it would solve most of my problems. With this can I also record stuff (simple stuff, just using GarageBand or whatever...)?

 

And I'd also like to know if there is any way around this MIDI problem with the X3.. I figured the MIDI would be a good way to control the POD via computer. Using direct USB connection, I cannot control the pod using the computer, right? Bummer... Is there anything I can do to this?

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:43 AM

You're correct on the fact that the POD does become your soundcard when connected with USB. As far MIDI, the X3 bean has no MIDI capabilities whatsoever. It doesn't have MIDI ports, and it doesn't do MIDI over USB. So on that end there's not really anything you can do.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:33 AM

you CAN control it using usb... install gearbox... 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

you CAN control it using usb... install gearbox...

 

Well, true... I was assuming he was meaning controlling it via MIDI PC and/or CC commands sent from a DAW.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

I guess i just had a different perspective of the question... you may well be correct.

 

Well, true... I was assuming he was meaning controlling it via MIDI PC and/or CC commands sent from a DAW.


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#6 luizmessora

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:41 PM

I guess i just had a different perspective of the question... you may well be correct.

 

Thank you both very much. I was actually assuming using MIDI was the best way to control the POD, but if I can simply use USB and use POD as a soundcard that way, what would MIDI do for me? I'm not sure i understand what is the purpose of MIDI anyway.

Via USB I can also use GarageBand or any other software to record eventually, right? I don't have a USB cable right now but i'll buy one and post here later when I can.

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:30 PM

Well, if by controlling the POD, you just mean editing and arranging presets, Zap is correct - Gearbox allows you to do that over the USB connection. As far as having MIDI and using the computer, there are some people who like to set up automation tracks in their DAW to control the POD so that the DAW turns effects on and off or changes patches, etc. during the course of a song. If you don't know what the term "automation track" means, then that probably doesn't apply to you. Other than that, MIDI gives you the ability to control the POD with third party controllers.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:31 PM

Well, if by controlling the POD, you just mean editing and arranging presets, Zap is correct - Gearbox allows you to do that over the USB connection. As far as having MIDI and using the computer, there are some people who like to set up automation tracks in their DAW to control the POD so that the DAW turns effects on and off or changes patches, etc. during the course of a song. If you don't know what the term "automation track" means, then that probably doesn't apply to you. Other than that, MIDI gives you the ability to control the POD with third party controllers.

 

hmm, thanks. that would be nice to have by I'm good so far with just the USB! in any case the x3 bean does not have any kind of MIDI compatibility so I shouldn't even think about it if I want that in the future, right?

 

so I got a USB cable and had absolutely no trouble using POD as a soundcard and doing exactly what I wanted to do before, thank you all very much!

 

btw: is there a list of what the amps/mods and  on the POD X3 are based on? Searched through the Advanced Guide, since the advanced guide in Pocket Pod includes the list so i figured that would be the same with the X3, but there's nothing there, and here the closest I found is this:

http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-4602

but this is only a list of the models in X3 with their own names, nothing about their "inspiration"

 

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 05:02 PM

...

 

btw: is there a list of what the amps/mods and  on the POD X3 are based on? .

http://l6c.scdn.line... Model Gallery (%20Rev%20B%20).pdf


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:39 AM

http://l6c.scdn.line... Model Gallery (%20Rev%20B%20).pdf

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:04 AM

hmm, thanks. that would be nice to have by I'm good so far with just the USB! in any case the x3 bean does not have any kind of MIDI compatibility so I shouldn't even think about it if I want that in the future, right?

 

I know you can not directly send MIDI commands to the X3 Bean, but what I wonder is if you can control Gearbox with MIDI, in essence indirectly controlling the X3.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:42 AM

i believe the answer is yes you can control gearbox via midi... and pod farm 2, but not pod farm 1.

I've not tested it personally, but seem to recall an upset user who didn't want to pay for pod farm 2 to get the midi functionality he had in gearbox.

 

I know you can not directly send MIDI commands to the X3 Bean, but what I wonder is if you can control Gearbox with MIDI, in essence indirectly controlling the X3.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:53 AM

I remember those rants, I think it was more than one user too.

I know I have controlled the Gearbox plug-in and PF1 plug-in, but it was indirectly through Reaper's MIDI learn. I was able to successfully route any MIDI surface controller from my Yamaha S90es to any Gearbox or PF parameter, but I never tried to use it to control Gearbox as an editor.
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