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#1 smrybacki

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:41 AM

For all those who crave a blind test, here is an interesting test here.  This is JUST effects apparently as the same amp is used.  I seriously got all of them right.  How'd you do?

http://oruworshipctr...ls-shooutout-1/

Edited to add: If you found this intrigueingm the link below is the main section of that site and the different posts detail the amps and pedals this guy used.  He also used an HD500 on the POD side of things.

http://oruworshipctr.../pod-vs-pedals/


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#2 alienux

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

I missed most of them, but I'm listening on cheap speakers at work so I don't know if the differences would be more noticeable with better PC speakers or not.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

I missed most of them, but I'm listening on cheap speakers at work so I don't know if the differences would be more noticeable with better PC speakers or not.

I used headphones, to be fair.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:38 AM

I got them all correct as well. The pedals sounded a bit sweeter and organic but the POD did quite well and that was up against some really good pedals and not the models the POD pedals were based on, from what I could tell from post he had on the pedals he used. A better blind test would be to compare it to the actual emulated pedal. Still the price points do prove a good point. Maybe the actual pedals are better but the digital stuff is very close for much better price.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:25 AM

I listened carefully and selected POD for all the ones I liked the best without actual regard to which was which.  End result only 2 wrong.  Told me I actually PREFER the POD tones most of the time... interesting...


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:20 PM

I listened carefully and selected POD for all the ones I liked the best without actual regard to which was which.  End result only 2 wrong.  Told me I actually PREFER the POD tones most of the time... interesting...

LOL, I approach the same way with you, and found only 2 correct...The sounds I like most was from pod, and I though it was the pedals....


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 01:06 PM

I listened carefully and selected POD for all the ones I liked the best without actual regard to which was which.  End result only 2 wrong.  Told me I actually PREFER the POD tones most of the time... interesting...

 

I didn't approach it like that, but strangely enough, while I was listening, I *thought* the better sounding ones (to my ears) were the real pedals (and chose accordingly) and those were the ones I turned out to be wrong on. So for the most part, I liked the POD tones better, too.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 01:11 PM

I got tones 9&10 wrong the rest correct, you can clearly hear the depth of the amps and pedals. I actually preferred the amps and pedals.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:37 PM

I got three wrong but, to me, the differences are insignificant.  I could have gone either way and was just lucky I only got three wrong.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 12:16 AM

The thing I really don't like on the POD is the ODs and distortions.  I did the same comparison with my amps and pedals and the pedals sound much better for OD and distortion.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:17 AM

I used to be an elitist, and thought modeling was crap. I now feel that once the drummer starts playing, what does it matter. I dig my 500X, it makes my life much easier.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:47 AM

all but one wrong. i was totally guessing. my hearing is atrocious.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:50 AM

I think a better blind test would be with distortions and overdrives.


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#14 smrybacki

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:40 AM

I think a better blind test would be with distortions and overdrives.

 

Yes, it would, and as I pointed out -- the same amp was used throughout so it was JUST effects being ascertained.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:01 PM

Aww. I missed one.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 07:46 AM

Tasty playing.  I generally picked the brighter sounding one as a real setup, but got the first half right, the second half wrong.  Cool experiment. 


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 10:09 AM

I think a better blind test would be with distortions and overdrives.

sadly is mono but you get the idea  ;) 


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

The first video's effects generally sound more "studio eq'ed". They have a different shine to them. I liked both equally though. Same with the distortions in the second video. Neither one sounds better or worse. You can do exactly what you want with either one, but for far less money. Pretty fair comparisons. Thanks for posting these, fellows.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:19 PM

I was surprised that the L6 distortions were actually very close to the originals and with a little more tweaking could certainly have matched them.  I think a lot of players that don't like the L6 distortions and overdrives are comparing them to other pedals available today.  In reality those same players would probably prefer their pedals to the originals that the L6 models are based on too.  I can't necessarily disagree with them on that but the L6 models definitely do what they claim to do.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 06:41 PM

I like the Line6 Distortion Modeler versus Analog Originals video.  IMO - That's as close as you can get. 

 

I can't think of how many thousands of dollars I've spent on equipment over the 40 years of playing guitar in everything from blues to country to metal.  I use two things now, a Marshall and my PODHD.  I wish I still had the pedals so I could sell them on eBay to the people that still think they are so much better.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:07 AM

3 right, 3 wrong. For me that means the POD wins ....no patch leads to go screwy, no knobs to get knocked, generally more consistency AND it's got all the amp mods built in for the studio.....AND its cheaper than the pedals, power supplies, tuners, floorboards etc.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:37 AM

With the Overdrives and Distortions comparison video, I feel that I preferred the Line 6 version of the Colorsound and the Tube Screamer but I would choose the analog pedals for everything else. It appeared that the Line 6 device was rolling off some frequencies with both distortions (Rat and Metal Zone) as well as with the Big Muff and Fuzz Face. 

 

After listening to both demonstrations, I can say that I preferred the tones that had a more open and clear sound and with the first video it was the pedals and the second it was the actual pedals as well. The Line 6 devices in both videos appeared to be rolling off a frequency that was creating a more condensed or compressed tone where as the analog pedals seem to let the tone flow a little more freely and had more of an open and clear tone. You could especially hear to on the second video when the guitarist was creating some natural harmonics with his picking technique. The Line 6 device did not produce those frequencies.

 

However, the quality of the audio and compression of Youtube videos is a very poor and inaccurate way of comparing sounds and frequencies, so without having the actual components here in my studio, and being able to adjust and eq them myself, I will say that the videos are good for conversation but do not cut in stone a definitive opinion.

 

Thank you for posting them, interesting.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:11 PM

I only missed 3 of em, though honestly I like both pedals AND POD equally
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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:25 PM

3 right, 3 wrong for me as well.  Too close for me to definitively tell and no way I'd be able to figure it out if it were accompanied by a band or backing track.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 02:50 AM

I just spent WAY too much for a T-rex Twister 2, and I am not the biggest fan of chorus of flange! But this pedal in the slow, low flange songs especially is truly a wonderful sound.

But I spent $279 for it and for $499 you can get a POD HD500x. In the context of this video where it is hard to tell which is which, if it's perfectly understandable to me why people buy and love PODS.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:42 PM

I got them all right woo hoo! I'm actually really surprised I did because I don't think I'm great at hearing those little details. All in all though the differences were very small and just demonstrates again how well the HD covers all these sounds. I keep wanting to go the pedals route but every time I do things like this it makes me realize I don't need them (but I still want them ha!).


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