I had absolutely no intentions of getting involved with this thread. I am unaffected so it seemed unfair and unneccessary to get involved but...
You have a production defect in your speakers. It is obvious, blatant and loud under normal operating conditions! Other brands of mid to high range quality speakers do not rattle or buzz so audibly under normal usage. If they did those manufacturer's speakers would have long since been fixed or pushed out of the market place.
A production defect would show in EVERY speaker, not just a few. The sonic frequencies present within yours and others' setups obviously ARE having an impact on you (I have no reason nor desire to rebut your claim) but to state it as a production defect is, in my humble opinion, a little unfair.
I'd quite sensibly agree that ALL manufacturers speakers will, at some point in the frequency spectrum under certain sonic conditions exhibit similar symptoms. It would be impossible to test or QC for infinite possibilities. wWhat I do agree with is that once such an issue has been discovered that it would be sensible of a manufacturer to take steps to a) own the problem and
Most of us on the forum did not require someone to "teach" us how to produce the rattle. Are you now inferring that the problem is not that there is a rattle but that we have "taught" people to spot it? That is analogous to saying that the problem is not the assault but the fact that it was reported. We customers unfortunately stumbled across this issue under normal usage. There is a good chance that many other users will encounter this sound (many long after their return period has expired) if they add or change instruments they use in the band or use any of a wide number of settings. We on the forum did not have to provide some arcane method of finding this rattle by playing in a trapezoidally shaped room with a glockenspiel played at clipping levels. This rattle occurs under normal playing conditions with everyday instruments and settings!
I didn't read it that way at all. Yes, there will be customers who have experienced the buzz/rattle without *any* attempt to create it but there will also be others who have "found" it simply because they've gone looking for it based upon the conditions people with the problem have described. This is in essense what I believe was said.
I understand Line6 trying to exhaust every prossible way of minimizing, rationalizing, and otherwise blurring the seriousness of this defect. All of them remain counter-productive. The right path here is to acknowledge the problem, not state that every other manufactuer's speaker has it. That is simply not accurate or demonstrable by anything we are encountering out here in the real world, despite the fact that "sdevino" states they can reproduce this defect in a test lab on other speakers. You are right to point out that users should not expect a speaker to be "bullet proof" under all circumstances, we understand that physics, design and cost limitations play a part. We just expect a speaker that does not rattle LOUDLY under normal operating conditions.
From an outsiders, unaffected point of view, I don't see anyone from Line6 (or indeed elsewhere) trying to blur the seriousness of your problem. They are counter-productive in your opinion but, by the same token, your ever increasing rants are also appearing counter-productive in my opinion since you are gradually alienating a number of your otherwise supportive fellow users.
You have known about this issue for over a year. Stop producing and selling these speakers until they are redesigned/fixed! Redesign them already and swap in new parts on existing speakers and please stop deluding yourselves that this is business as usual and that these speakers have the same problem as everybody else's They do not! Even if every other speaker had this issue (they don't) that would not be a good reason not to fix it.
Again, to claim this is, in my opinion, a little unfair. It implies that you've been able to test every single user's speaker where they've reported a rattle, buzz, vibration etc over the past year and been able to isolate all of them to a single cause. Instead, all I can see is you scouring the forum looking for any mention of "vibration", "buzz" or "rattle" and lumping every one of these reports in to your one size fits all "defect"... not to mention delivering the same rant into those threads.
Line6 speakers are fantastic sounding speakers in their own right. These are superb sounding speakers with some unique and wonderful features, but they have a major defect. "Sdevino" please ask yourself if you would assert the opposite of what you stated in your post. Would you assert that, with the right settings, every other manufacturer's speakers can sound just as good as Line6 speakers? No you would not! It would not be true! So why assert the opposite (that every other manufacturer's speakers can be made to produce this rattle and have this same or a similiar defect; it is simply not true under normal usage, which is what counts)? Line6 speakers would sound better than many others were it not for this critical defect. Their magnificent potential is abundantly obvious.
Velok, as others have said already, the forum is not the *best* place to get your issue resolved. Use the already established support system and, more importantly, give Line6 chance to respond and take ownership of the problem you are experiencing. Otherwise you increasing look like a troll.
Tomtheguitarguy - the recording is just a way to push you off. I made them a high end recording weeks ago. Don't waste your time. Tell them to listen to my recording and they will know what your rattle sounds like.
Sorry tudscamp, I don't see haw listening to your rattle will inform Line6 of what tomtheguitarguy's rattle sounds like. You are assuming that they are identical. I would *hope* that they are identical, since this would imply a single issue that will be modestly easy to rectify BUT I wouldn't want to *assume* that they are.
Truly, I sympathise with *anyone* who has a problem. I am also honestly happy that I am *currently* unaffected. I'd also *like* to think that Line6 are fully investigating and taking steps to resolve any such issues as quickly as is feasible. BUT I'm not convinced that ranting on a user forum, taking pot shots at people who are trying to offer constructive assistance is at all productive. Getting hot under the collar is not good for your blood pressure.