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Best Answer pfsmith0 , 29 April 2014 - 01:15 PM

Awe shucks. Someone else got the "best answer" even though I identified the problem. I was this >< close to getting it!

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#1 isaiahb93

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:52 AM

I just got my Pod HD500x a week ago and I am amazed by it. I have created some cool Crunch patches along with some heavy distortion leads. But I can't figure out how to create a clean sound! I don't get what amp I should use. They all come preset with some kind of distortion. I am looking for a Fender Reverb kind of clean sound, I am playing through a Soldano Tube amp and it sounds great and yes I have my it on the clean channel. What happens when I create a new tone is that it sounds clean and quiet before I choose an amp model but when I start cycling through amp models they all sound crunchy and there's no just clean setting. What am I missing?I just can't figure out what to tweak. Any suggestions of amp models would help. I am a noob to amp modeling. I spent to much time learning Music Theory and not audio theory! Just for reference I have a Gibson Les Paul, Gibson SG, Fender Telecaster, and an Ibanez Artcore Hollow Body. So it's not my guitars causing the sound issues. It's totally operator error!


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#2 arislaf

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:00 AM

Use Hiway of the fender above of it, put master less than 50% andd drive also, and finally put one input guitar, second variax


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:25 AM

Twin Reverb is also a good clean sound.  Start with amp only and work from there.  It should not be distorted at all.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:55 AM

I used the Deluxe Reverb amp and cab, but significantly adjusted the Cabinet "deep" parameters notable lo-cut and resonance. I created a very nice little Princeton clone that sounds spot on to me.  Princeton amps are noted for their pristine clean tone -- throw in a 63 Spring reverb and bias tremolo and viola!
 

  • Cabinet Model Deep Edit Parameters
    • These parameters offer more control over the response of the POD HD cab models, allowing more customization than ever. Each cabinet model includes the following controls:
      • Low Cut: Provides a gentle High-Pass Filter with a range of 20Hz-500Hz
      • Res Level: Controls the cabinet’s overall Resonance Level
      • Thump: Controls the cabinet’s Low Frequency Resonance Level
      • Decay: Controls the cabinet’s Resonance over time
    • Note: Thump and Decay controls are affected by the Resonance Level control. When Res Level is at lower settings these inter-related controls will have minimal effect.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

Also, make sure Input 2 is NOT set to Same.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:31 AM

Also, make sure Input 2 is NOT set to Same.

What would input 2 matter? I don't understand all these technical things. I thought input 2 always needed to be the same when playing with a guitar through it? What difference would it make? Why is there even an input 2 option?


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#7 smrybacki

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:37 AM

What would input 2 matter? I don't understand all these technical things. I thought input 2 always needed to be the same when playing with a guitar through it? What difference would it make? Why is there even an input 2 option?

It matters because they are summed and tend to overdrive the input of the amp models.

The reason there are two is because you can run two discrete signal paths through your pod to, for example:

- Run a guitar and a vocal mic simultaneously.

- If you have a JT Variax, you can run magnetic pickups through one chain, and modelled or acoustic tone through another and layer them.

See here

http://line6.com/sup...-dry-tones-r559


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM

And you can use the same input if you ran a 2 amp rig.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:06 AM

And you can use the same input if you ran a 2 amp rig.

Great point.

Many people hear tend to set input 2 to something unused like Aux or Mic to prevent this overdiving effect.  I am one of them.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM

Great point.

Many people hear tend to set input 2 to something unused like Aux or Mic to prevent this overdiving effect.  I am one of them.

Okay guys thank you. That just solved my problem. I am new to all this stuff! I finally got my clean blues tone!


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:15 PM   Best Answer

Awe shucks. Someone else got the "best answer" even though I identified the problem. I was this >< close to getting it!


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:31 PM

Awe shucks. Someone else got the "best answer" even though I identified the problem. I was this >< close to getting it!

..... check my first answer above yours, that say about input :P :lol:


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Before line6 was called line6... they used to do r&d for other companies like alesis + others. and when those customers came to visit the offices of line6 (before it was called line6) and the receptionist needed to warn all the guys who were designing products for other companies (and for themselves... ) who were like 'in the back' the receptionist would announce over a tannoy 'tellephone call for 'fred smith' on line 6' the cunning part was that they only had 5 telephone lines, so it was the secret code for "hide your sh1t the feds are comin'" or "someone's coming, let's hide these PODs that we aren't going to release for another few years so they don't see them" 

 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 02:07 PM

ah ah :D ..

 that's life my friend..

 

I gave you another +1 as a consolation prize ;)

 

 

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.. and I gave +2 to Arislaf for Justice :)

Don't be jealous boys...the customer got served and that is it's own reward.  :D


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:36 AM

Everyone's answer helped me. I just marked the most detailed one answered. I need details to understand this stuff. Thanks guys. I'll be sure to use this forum again for more questions


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#15 smrybacki

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:50 AM

Well, I didn't know you could change that.  So now I gotta hate on pfsmith0!

Totally kidding...glad it worked out.


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 10:53 AM

You guys absolutely rock, thanks so much, I was wondering why all clean tones sounded horrible and also any tones I downloaded....

 

you have made my day!


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 07:36 PM

Sharks, the lot of ye! Hungry little helper sharks!
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