Running Standalone Pod Farm 2 at 48K/24-bit -- impossible?

[whitejs]

I find the UX2 indispensable for live and recording work, although I may use it a bit differently than many.

 

I use it "live" all the time.  That is, I use the standalone Pod Farm (and other modelers) and send the UX2 output to the mixer.

 

I record this way, too, because I can't use two ASIO devices at a time, and prefer my Lynx card to the TonePort as a Windows soundcard.

 

SO, I want the best analog quality at the outputs.  That means, I want 24-bit/48KHz action going on in the UX2 drivers.  I want that spec creating my final analog output from the UX2.  Even if I'm just jamming in my studio, I want the TonePort to be at its highest digital depth and resolution.

 

But the Pod Farm software does not "tell" the UX2 driver that it is present.  All my other modelers (Mark Studio 2, Amplitube 3, etc.) directly identify themselves as ASIO control clients for the UX2 driver.  It says so in the control panel the minute you fire up other modelers.  It says "ASIO Client: Amplitube 3.exe" and such.  And their settings (set in their software, unlike Pod Farm 2!) tell the driver to go to 24/48K.

 

It's that simple.  When you close the software, the "Driver Operating at:" line says "inactive". 

 

When you load Pod Farm 2, it goes to 16/44K, and no ASIO client is identified.

 

Line 6, can you fix this, please?  I mic my upright bass and have found the perfect models in Pod Farm 2, but it doesn't control the ASIO settings in its own-brand UX2 driver!  That's crazy.  Please put a setting in the Pod Farm software that controls the driver as an ASIO client like the other softwares do.

 

Jon

[Triryche]

Are you recording with the Lynx?

If so then the UX is not being used as an ASIO and PF2 is just running ToneDirect Monitoring, in which case you should see PF2 as an ASIO client in the Lynx's settings.

[fflbrgst]

You mau prefer the Lynx interface's A/D converison, but you do realize that you are actually using the UX2 to to both A-D and D-A conversion first?  So in fact, you're running your signal thorugh 3 conversions when recording, not just one.

[whitejs]

Are you recording with the Lynx?

If so then the UX is not being used as an ASIO and PF2 is just running ToneDirect Monitoring, in which case you should see PF2 as an ASIO client in the Lynx's settings.

 

Let's just start simple.  I just boot the Line 6 Audio-Midi Device Manager  with no other ASIO devices active.  When I boot Amplitube 3 or TH2 or any other amp modeling program, the Device Manager activates them as an ASIO Client, plain and simple and expected (and per the setup schemes in the respective programs).

 

When I boot Pod Farm 2, it makes no such impression on the Device Manager.  It says "Inactive", and therefore has no command that tells it to run in any mode in particular.

 

THAT is the core of my question.  Why can't Pod Farm 2 tell the Tone Port to run in a certain mode, if all the others can?

 

And another interesting thing is, when I'm in Sonar, using the Lynx card to record my Tone Port's analog outputs, and I have any of the other modeling programs going, the ASIO Client shows that software and the res and bitrate are set accordingly.

 

So it seems that Pod Farm 2 is the only modeling software I have that doesn't control the Tone Port driver -- it's own product line's driver!  I'm stuck at 44/16.

 

That seems very short-sighted and limited.

[whitejs]

You mau prefer the Lynx interface's A/D converison, but you do realize that you are actually using the UX2 to to both A-D and D-A conversion first?  So in fact, you're running your signal thorugh 3 conversions when recording, not just one.

 

Yes, the techs at Line6 suggested the same.  My question is this:  How do I achieve low latency recording through any interface other than the TonePort?  I've tried it.  I'm one of those players that can't deal with 10ms of latency in live recording of my guitars and bass.  It just sucks.  So I record analog via the TonePort.  I tried using Pod Farm 2 with the Lynx and it was a mess.

 

Any suggestions on setup and settings?  And if it means active channel monitoring in Sonar, forget it.  Too much lag.

[Triryche]

With the other modeling softwares you mention they are not their own audio interfaces. 

If I were to use POD Farm 2 with a different interface, then the Line6 Audio-MIDI control panel will show POD Farm 2.exe as the ASIO client.

But becasue you are not recording with the UX, there is nothing for it to sample, which is why it is inactive.

If you are recording with it, your DAW should show up as the ASIO client.

I use Reaper and set my bit rate/depth within Reaper, and as soon as I launch Reaper, the UX sees Reaper as the ASIO client and then uses the sampling rate set in Reaper.

 

Have you tried recoding with the UX via USB?

You can capture wet and dry simultaneously and if you have the plug-in you can add it to the dry track post processing.

[whitejs]

With the other modeling softwares you mention they are not their own audio interfaces. 

If I were to use POD Farm 2 with a different interface, then the Line6 Audio-MIDI control panel will show POD Farm 2.exe as the ASIO client.

But becasue you are not recording with the UX, there is nothing for it to sample, which is why it is inactive.

If you are recording with it, your DAW should show up as the ASIO client.

I use Reaper and set my bit rate/depth within Reaper, and as soon as I launch Reaper, the UX sees Reaper as the ASIO client and then uses the sampling rate set in Reaper.

 

Have you tried recoding with the UX via USB?

You can capture wet and dry simultaneously and if you have the plug-in you can add it to the dry track post processing.

 

Pod Farm 2 is no different, it seems, than the other software. They all act as clients to devices. The Line6 control panel does not show Pod Farm as a client under any circumstances, though. It might if I used the UX2 as a sound card, but I don't because I don't want to switch all the time in my DAW, which only supports one ASIO device at a time.

 

When I use my Lynx card as the Pod Farm hardware, it is forced to run at 44/16! I can't change that, and this is what I'm asking Line6 to fix. Make Pod Farm 2 do what every other software does: act as an ASIO client that demands settings from the driver -- settings that are created in Pod Farm 2 just like EVERY OTHER modeling program.

 

Also, when I use the Lynx as hardware for recording in Sonar, I'm forced to use Pod Farm and Amplitube 3 as plugins, requiring direct channel monitoring to hear the processed sound, and having to reamp to hear it in playback (that is, it never records the processed sound, and requires the amp model at all times to hear the desired sound).

 

I simply want Pod Farm to set the ASIO parameters in standalone. It is a wish list item.

 

By the way, thank you very much for responding so carefully to my post. I appreciate that.

 

Jon

[Triryche]

I think I see what your are saying now.

If you record with your Lynx,you want to be able to set the Lynx's sampling rate via POD Farm.

But if you are using the Lynx to record, just know it and/or your DAW is setting the sampling rate.

I know in Reaper I can request a sampling rate from the interface, which is what I do. So the instant I launch POD Farm, it defaults to the rate from my DAW.