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#1 MiguelMarquez

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 12:04 PM

Hello everyone,

 

before getting the POD HD500x, I'd use the threadplate model on my old POD 2.0 with a bypassed cab to achieve a rather harsh, metallic tone which is sort of my "signature" rhythm guitar sound. You can listen to here:

https://soundcloud.c...ok/test/s-GZmNm

 

I basically run the output of a patch that uses a mesa boogie simulation into a channel in cubase where I load an IR of a Mesa Cab. Basically I have two cabs going on right now.
 

The second patch which you hear on that recording is something that sounds close. It's basically me trying to emulate the sound heard at the beginning of John Petrucci's tune "Damage Control".

 

You'll notice how the sound in "damage control" lacks punch and that metallic edge. IS there any way to add it artificially? I simply want to be less dependant on Cubase and my IR-host (voxengo boogex) and have everything happen within the POD. I'd be glad to provide patches to anyone willing to provide assistance.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.


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#2 RIblues

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 12:20 PM

Well, you definitely do not need a noise gate because it's super quiet. As a matter of fact, it's so quiet, I didn't hear a thing. Please check the file that you posted.


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#3 MiguelMarquez

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:14 PM

I see the dropbox links failed to show.

Does the soundcloud link work?


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#4 RIblues

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:21 PM

Yes, now it's working. Have you tried using the Metal Zone as an EQ? The Metal Zone has that midrange bite that reminds me of the tone that you are chasing.


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#5 MiguelMarquez

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:27 PM

Yes, now it's working. Have you tried using the Metal Zone as an EQ? The Metal Zone has that midrange bite that reminds me of the tone that you are chasing.

 

Ehm, the metal zone as in, the pedal by Boss? My aim is achieving this tone by using strictly what the POD offers.


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#6 FrozenOzone

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:44 PM

The Heavy distortion pedal in the POD500(X) was modeled after the Metal Zone pedal.  So, yes it there but not named Metal Zone. 


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#7 RIblues

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:09 PM

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm used to calling it the Metal Zone.


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#8 MiguelMarquez

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 12:06 PM

Sorry man, but that pedal's overdrive sounds awful. At least when used in combination with the Threadplate.

 

Any other suggestions? Basically my idea the other day was to sort of emulate the response of a cab by using EQ and perhaps compressors. The sound I'm quest for results from running the output of a cab into another cab.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 01:05 PM

:lol: ! Yea, it leaves  a lot to be desired. But if you turn the drive down on that unit and use it more like an EQ, capturing it's underlying tone, you can achieve that midrange sound your looking for. I don't know how close you will get but you would be heading in that direction. Wish I could help more, good luck and let us know what you come up with.


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