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#21 arod1212

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:12 AM

Great Post. 

I am a newbie to Line6 product usage & forums so bare with me.

Looking for recommendations from you experts and leveraging this related thread.

 

I purchased an X3L years back started using it until I had a strange problem where during performance, the volume would intermittently drop drastically on all outputs/presets etc., Had it supposedly fix by authorized dealer and nothing was really done. Issue was still there thus got frustrated stop using the unit.  I began to use it again recently and love it. unfortunately the problem is still there where during gigs at some point volume drops and I've had a few embarrassed moments and I am forced to stop using it.  Since product is no longer supported and considering purchasing an HD500/500X.

 

I thought it was me that the sound of these units sound weak, not as FAT as the X3 Live. I thought this new technology would be better, but it seems they fall short to the X3L.  But I was going to purchase an HD500X anyway since no choice. 

 

After reading this thread I am considering purchasing another  X3 Live USED, but worry I may purchase a unit with issues and I find myself with two X3 Lives with issues and can't use.

 

Any suggestions on minimizing risk of purchasing a used X3 Live?


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#22 TheRealZap

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:46 AM

actually you can probably make your current x3 work by "parking the knobs"

basically set them all at 0, except the master.

the volume changes are usually due to the digital pots detecting small vibrations and re-reading knob positions.

 

basically use the knobs when editing save tones, and then park them... should give you the correct sound when you reselect the tone.

 

Great Post. 

I am a newbie to Line6 product usage & forums so bare with me.

Looking for recommendations from you experts and leveraging this related thread.

 

I purchased an X3L years back started using it until I had a strange problem where during performance, the volume would intermittently drop drastically on all outputs/presets etc., Had it supposedly fix by authorized dealer and nothing was really done. Issue was still there thus got frustrated stop using the unit.  I began to use it again recently and love it. unfortunately the problem is still there where during gigs at some point volume drops and I've had a few embarrassed moments and I am forced to stop using it.  Since product is no longer supported and considering purchasing an HD500/500X.

 

I thought it was me that the sound of these units sound weak, not as FAT as the X3 Live. I thought this new technology would be better, but it seems they fall short to the X3L.  But I was going to purchase an HD500X anyway since no choice. 

 

After reading this thread I am considering purchasing another  X3 Live USED, but worry I may purchase a unit with issues and I find myself with two X3 Lives with issues and can't use.

 

Any suggestions on minimizing risk of purchasing a used X3 Live?


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#23 arod1212

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:06 AM

Interesting suggestion, "parking the knob". (Thanks)

 

Note that the issue happens only during performance and when the sound drops by about 90%, even pressing the expression pedal all the way down barely raises the volume back to normal.  So the issue even affects the volume pedals and all presets. Is like the entire pedal goes into a distorted/clip mode and all volume drop.

 

Since this issue only happens after a few hours of usage during a gig/performance & I have not been able to replicate at home (even when I leave the board on all day to test for overheating), I will definitely try the X3Live one more time during next gig and "park the knobs" and test results.

 

Thanks.


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#24 Studioratasshole

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 07:40 AM

X3 better than HD, vanilla better than chocolate? I believe a matter of taste and ESPECIALLY how you tweak and "tune" the pod to whatever equipment you run thru, HD requires diffrent tweaking than xt , x3. soooooo many musicians disregard the line 6 stuff before putting the time, work and variables required to get these AMAZING units to sound as jaw dropping stunning as they can be! I also wish line 6 would bring back the x3! Had 2 hd500s after the 3rd locked up, just settled for bean HD. Love it! But after spending countless hours shaping tones on x3, for cover band, original band and recording...... I wanted to KEEP many of those tones, I scoured the Internet and FOUND A MUSIC STORE IN NJ THAT HAD A BRAND NEW UNOPENED X3! $400.oo. I am sure there is one out there seek and you will find...
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#25 arod1212

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 01:24 PM

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

 

So I did seek and actually found (Studioratasshole thanks for suggestion) a store with new unopened X3 Live for under $300.  Before I pull the trigger and purchase a new X3  Live (even if is discontinued) instead of getting the HD500X , , my last question to the forum:

 

Note I play for a wedding band, top 40 music, some rock, etc. I also new to the playing live scene, really inexperienced, the question is:

 

 

If $ was NOT an issue, and you owned an X3 Live that is broken beyond repair, would you buy another X3 Live again instead of an HD500X at this stage of the Line6 Technological evolution?  Experts, would you do this?

 

   


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#26 silverhead

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

No. I would buy a used HD500 from a reputable source (cheaper than the 500x) unless the extra 20% DSP power is worth the extra $ to you. The tones from the HD500 are much better than the X3 for live playing.
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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:30 PM

If $ was NOT an issue, and you owned an X3 Live that is broken beyond repair, would you buy another X3 Live again instead of an HD500X at this stage of the Line6 Technological evolution?  Experts, would you do this?

 

 

Nope... I have both actually, and since I've gotten the HD500, I've hardly touched the X3 Live. For playing live, the HD500 is better in nearly every way I can think of.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:44 PM

I sold my X3L within a few weeks of getting my HD500 and never looked back.  They both sounded really good, but the HD500 sounded better to my ears.


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#29 arod1212

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

following the advise of the experts, I went to the local guitar store I normally shop today and they gave me a used HD500X to take home as a loaner (free) and try it for two weeks.  If I like it I can return it and buy a new one or just return it.   I setting it up now and looking forward to evaluating it myself.

 

I am reading the manual now to get familiar.

 

Thanks for support.  .


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#30 alucard2010

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:00 PM

i agree with you. all for x 3 live


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:11 AM

Anyone here notice that you kind of got your wish with the Amplifi?

 

http://line6.com/amplifi/


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:08 AM

I love my X3Live, even though I had to send it back for the audio drop-out issue way back when it was new. I never did understand why Line6 introduced the HD series while doing away with most of the coolest features of the X3 like all the output choices.  As for the Coke Classic analogy, the same thing that applied to Coke applies to any Brand or product. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The only lasting complaint about the X3 Live was the plastic chassis. I don't gig, but, I have dragged it to a lot of jams with no issues.  I would love to see them re-issue it as was! I think the AMP-LIFI is cool but they really should have put at least a tube pre-amp in it.


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#33 Tmidiman

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:27 PM

Anyone here notice that you kind of got your wish with the Amplifi?
 
http://line6.com/amplifi/


That's because the tones from the X3 rocked big time! Great tone never goes away.

That Line 6 choose to put the algorithm from the X3 in their new amp and not the HD algorithms says a lot.
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#34 deathkittydisco

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:49 PM

I bought my X3 Live when it came out, and have been super happy with it. It does so much more than most workstations I have used. 


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#35 ParfyonRogozhin

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

I have a PodXT Live and an X3Live. I never really got around to tweaking the X3 as much as I did the first one. To me, the XT sounded great, and was all I needed.

 

So what we're dealing with is simple nostalgia, and perhaps familariarty with a device. I think I'll be able to do with the 500x what I was able to do with the XT, albeit with different routes to achiving a desired tone. After all, it just simulates the routing of effects and position of mic, they're numbers, it's a program, nothing is physically there and those values only serve as a reference for what you're attempting to achive. If I got a solid metal tone with my computerized mic upside down, behind the amp, and under water, those would be the settings I'd choose. I think many people forget that.


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