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#1 Tmidiman

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:45 AM

If been perplexed by this issue for months, trying to understand and fix it. Time to ask the experts.

When ever I try to use the Pod HD for recording in my studio and it sounds raspy and unusable. I've also noticed this when trying to use headphones. I've set the unit for "Direct", but it still sounds terrible.

For reference I have an original Pod version 1, a Pod Pro, and a Pod X3 connected to my Mackie board and they all sound great Direct and with headphones. Why does the Pod HD sound so bad?

I have tried all of the output setting with no success. If I plug the unit into and amp and set it accordingly it's a bit better, but has to be excessively tweaked to get it to sound right.

I have had better success turning off the Pod's cab emulation off and using one from another device. This seems to fix the raspy tone issue for direct recording and for going into an amp. While this was fine for experimentation I do not want to pull out 2 pieces of gear to do what one piece should be able to achieve.

So can you help me to get the Pod HD to sound as good as the original Pod and Pod X3 going directed and to headphones?

Thanks.
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#2 mbach72

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:19 AM

I'll be watching this thread with interest. I've only had my HD500x for a month, so I'm still getting acquainted with all the little nuances, but this has been  problem I've been struggling with too. It's not just a little raspy either, it sounds like I'm playing through a blown speaker. So far, this has made playing the HD through headphones totally unusable for me.

 

To me it sounds like real bad digital clipping, but I've tried everything to make sure I'm not overloading it anywhere. I see that the consensus about the HD's headphone amp is that it is less than ideal, and it also suggests really high impedance headphones(which I admittedly don't have.) I don't know if the lower than suggested impedance of my headphones is a culprit but I don't think that's completely it. Just like you, if I play a track into my daw and then apply a third party IR, it makes a world of difference. That leads me to believe that the cab simulations have something to do with it. 


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:23 AM

I use headphones daily and while I notice things I wish weren't there, they are things so subtle that they might as well be non-existent. One in particular is on a higher gain tone I use with the solo-100 overdrive amp, there is a kind of subtle sizzling (not fizz) that I can't seem to get rid of. I finally just gave up. A casual listener wouldn't even notice it. In fact, I can recall reading about this and came to the conclusion that it is part of the actual amp itself which the pod models. So perhaps that might be what you're hearing as compared to older generation pods? Higher resolution algorithms modeling not only the tone from an amp (older generation pods might stop here), but also the sound characteristics that might not be so desirable but may contribute to the 'feel' of the amp?

 

I should also mention that I don't use the headphone output on the pod. I use the digital output to an internal soundcard, and from there I use the analog headphone output. The headphones (sony mdr-v6) are low impedance (63 Ohms).

 

Anyway, maybe either (or both) of you could post a clip demonstrating the sounds you are getting. Or even better, post a patch for which you get quirky results.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:39 AM

Still no response?
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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:17 AM

Still no response?

 

Somebody posted a response; see post number 3.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 07:00 AM

I fixed this by changing the two inputs to Guitar and Variax. I have no Variax so this setting basically turns off that input. I believe the default is Guitar and Same which, in effect, doubles the input signal hitting the first FX/Amp block. This was overdriving the Pod and caused all sorts of nastiness.


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