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Have a JTV 59. Need a spare Variax...
by brywool on 2013-04-07 11:37:02

Hi, I've got a JTV59 Variax that is really cool. I'm a multi instrumentalist in a band and the JTV has saved me from bringing many guitars, now I only bring the JTV59.

What I'm wondering is- I should have a spare variax. My show is now dependent on variax sounds.

How far back can I go in the Variax line of instruments and still be able to dial up the same sounds? I'm using the HD500 to change tunings and my sounds and don't really use the knobs on the guitar for that.

Are the older models capable of producing the same sounds as the JTV59? I'd think not as there are firmware upgrades and stuff. I just don't want to shell out another 1300 for a new guitar that I won't use much.



Re: Have a JTV 59. Need a spare Variax...
by TheRealZap on 2013-04-07 12:23:17

if the alt tunings are a big part of your use, i'd get another JTV...

the older variaxes require you to use workbench and built the alt tunings into the models... meaning the alt tunings in the hd500 wouldn't work...

but you could recall models that you've modified for alt tunings using the hd500...

i just think that'd be alot of effort on your part for a backup guitar.



Re: Have a JTV 59. Need a spare Variax...
by brywool on 2013-04-07 13:21:45

yikes. The JTVs are so expensive that I just can't justify it. I was bringing an acoustic, 2 spares, and a 12 string acoustic to the gigs. On small stages, that amount of gear just made it the biggest hassle... and the more gear you have, the more chance of something going down.Guess I could just bring another electric and a capo.  I guess the real solution is "don't break a string". ugh...

Thanks



Re: Have a JTV 59. Need a spare Variax...
by TheRealZap on 2013-04-07 17:18:42

you can do what you want with the original cheaper variaxes... just would take alot of work...

which would be a struggle, because if everything is going right... you'd never use the backup guitar...

and you might be doing alot of stuff different when you went to use it...

but yeah the jtv's are a bit pricey... you might try picking up one on ebay to lessen the money...

but i'm thinking you were already seeing those prices if you were shopping for an older variax.



Re: Have a JTV 59. Need a spare Variax...
by davidb7170 on 2013-04-07 21:20:19

My first Variax is a 300. Was a Fender guy for many years, but I got hooked on the LP sound on the 300, so I got an Epi LP -- nice guitar. I got a JTV-59 when those hit the market. Ordered in Oct 2010, got it in May 2011. Even with the bumps along the way, I LOVE it. So instead of taking my 300, the LP and an Ovation A/E I was down to my 59 and my LP for the broken string issue. Never had it happen, but I always carry a spare just in case. Last fall, they came out with the 69S's -- I got a gold one -- LOVE it. Now I have a total backup, so I have the 59 & 69S both available on the guitar stand. I split their use -- usually between sets.

They both have their own personality (LP vs Strat sound on mags), and I use the mags mostly except for special tunings and sounds like 12 string, acoustic, banjo, etc, but either the 69S or the 59 can do those. Very happy with them both. I had special tunings set up on the 300 in the custom guitar banks and it worked fine, but had different presets set up for it -- the HD500 tuning presets aren't possible on the 300 generation, as Zap pointed out. I do have 2 setlists with the same sounds in the same positions, but one tweeked for the 59 and one for the 69S -- like I said, they both have their own personality with their mags.

When I got the 69S last fall, they were running a special dream rig promotion, and part of it was a $200 price reduction on the JTV's, so I jumped and went for it. Found the right price on the right guitar at the right time.... The prices are back up to their normal ranges again now. I figured I was playing enough and had built up enough in my gig fund kitty to make it work....

My 2 cents worth...

Dave




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