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Looking for correct pedal order(with details inside)
by dperry85 on 2013-04-18 14:18:07

Hey guys, quick question.

I’m plugging my HD 500 straight into a powered speaker(100w crate) and using studio/direct.

I’m just a little confused on pedal order and would like some guidance. Here are the FX I want to use(8 total):

Tube drive

Delay

Phaser

Classic Distortion

Facial Fuzz

Vetta Juice(boost)

reverb

compressor

Can someone tell me the order and where I need the FX to the left or right of the amp in the line edit software?

Sorry for the noob question, I’ve looked at pictures and artciesl and have an idea but need confirmation from you guys, Thanks a lot!



Re: Looking for correct pedal order(with details inside)
by brue58ski on 2013-04-18 16:11:00

Keeping in mind there are no rules this would be one "typical" setup

Filter type FX first

1) Phaser

Then Compression

2) Compressor

Distortions

3) Classic Distortion

4) Facial Fuzz

5) Tube drive

Dynamics

6) Vetta Juice(boost)

Delays

7) Delay

and finally Reverbs

8) Reverb

I like the fuzz boxes before the tube (that's just me).  If you had a chorus or flanger you'd put it after the Distortions.  You could try the phaser there as well.  It's a very different sound with that effect but you'll probably need a noise gate then.



Re: Looking for correct pedal order(with details inside)
by GTLazer on 2013-04-19 01:24:57

I'd go slightly different:

Compressor

Facial Fuzz

Classic Distortion

Tube Drive

Vetta Juice (Boost)

Amp

Phaser

Delay

Reverb

But then I'd probably spend quite a bit of time shuffling things about to see what happens. First things I would try are moving the boost to immediately after the compressor, so the boosted signal goes into the drive stages, and, as mentioned above, the phaser will sound quite different depending where you put it.



Re: Looking for correct pedal order(with details inside)
by scheater5 on 2013-04-19 14:30:24

Bru and GTLazer are both talking about variations on a some tried and true pedal orders.  Basically, gain stuff before preamp, and time stuff afterwards.  Which is a huge oversimplification.  If you start there - distortion->preamp->delays->reverb - and then move some things around, you'll find what you like.  I tend to break with with tradition in regards to my phaser - like GTLazer, I place mine after the distortion. 

Filter effects like phasers, wah and EQ when placed before distortion tend to be muted and understated - while placing them after distortion makes them more distinct and exaggerated. 

As far as what order you put your distortions in - that deals with something called "gain staging," which is not something I feel the Pod emulates particullarly well.  With "real pedals," the prevailing wisdom is to put a throaty, mid-boosting overdrive first and follow it with a more even-eq'ed, "amp-like" distortion pedal.  Something like say a tube screamer into a Fulltone OCD.  I sometimes run a real tube screamer in my effects loop right before my amps - using the tube screamer to boost the distortion on the HD500's amp emulation.

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Re: Looking for correct pedal order(with details inside)
by Colin2113 on 2013-04-19 14:57:51

Just my two cents

Compression

Distortion

Overdrive

Pitch Shifting

Modulation

Delay

Reverb




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