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Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by spakuloid on 2010-03-01 11:04:36

I'd like to see what some people are doing on the floor as I am setting up a new pedalboard using my M13 a Mission controller and some pedals in the loop. I find most pedalboards too deep. Right now my ideal board is 28" x 13" and it seems that no one makes that. So show off what you got going on.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jaeger28 on 2010-03-03 23:05:05

here's mine

As there is no true bypass when using 4CM, I am using a Little Lehle to bypass the front end. The M13 is used in scene mode and switches also my amp (Steavens Poundcake Mk3) which has a switchable loop that is also midi controlled.

Ergo I can take the M13 in and out of my signal chain by just hitting a program on it, and have additional flexibility of taking in and out pedals before the amp with the Lehle.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by velvetsky01 on 2010-03-07 08:24:59

heres mine.....

i use the gig rig to control all of my Ods and distortions and use the M13 in the loop of my Fender Deulxe - the gigrig also has a midi so I use that to pre set Fxs to each preset on the gig rig but I can also just add in Fxs from the m13 when I like to!

Sounds Great!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by phil_m on 2010-03-08 07:27:31

That's pretty cool man!  I've gone a similar route with using external ODs and distortion with my M13, but I don't have anything like the Gig Rig.  So do you control the M13 with the Gig Rig?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by velvetsky01 on 2010-03-09 07:47:35

hey,

Yea it does via midi - it calls up a scenes 1-8 with the 8 footswtiches - it also has banks but i dont use them..... yet lol



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by teddybut on 2010-03-09 07:59:54

here's mine... custom made by pedalbards.com



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-16 18:49:11

Here is my M9 pedalboard, including two DIY expression pedals. 

Pedalboard 8-14-2010.jpg



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Guitarzan on 2010-08-19 05:45:16

Hmmm...why is there no true bypass using 4CM?

"As there is no true bypass when using 4CM, I am using a Little Lehle to bypass the front end. The M13 is used in scene mode and switches also my amp (Steavens Poundcake Mk3) which has a switchable loop that is also midi controlled."



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-19 19:13:17

Are those the "DIY Expression pedals" in the bottom left there?  How did you make them?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-19 19:28:20

Yes, the two boxes on the lower left are my DIY expression pedals.  They are pretty easy to build.  I have both a momentary and a latching (on/off) switch in each box, one mono jack and a 10k ohm reister wired between each switch and the single jack.  All the parts are from Radio Shack.  I plan on rebuilding them with decent enclosures and switches at some point,  Here is a gut shot.....

exp pedal.jpg



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-19 19:52:35

That's pretty cool.  Do you mind if I ask roughly how much that costs?  I've never done anything like that before, but I do own a soldering iron so perhaps I'll give it a shot.

Thanks for the pic and the specs.  I bet I could make one of those.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-19 20:48:34

They were quite inexpensive to build.  The switches were a couple bucks a piece, the jacks were a couple bucks for the two, the resistors were $1 for five and the enclosures were less than $3 each.  And just about any wire will do for the connections.  They took me about ten minutes or so to build.  If you already have an iron you should give it a shot.  I really like mine.  I can even use them for the pitch glide effect.  They work great for kicking up delay feedback levels for controllable self-oscillation stuff.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-19 21:26:15

Sorry to keep bugging you, but you said you have a latch mode on and off switch on them too?  I didn't know that was even possible to do!  Is it just like setting expression pedal heel and toe positions but just in the setup screen with the momentary and latch modes or is there some sort of special wireing or setup or something involved?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-20 05:44:38

It is not bother at all.  My expression pedals have two different switches which are wired to the same jack.  One of them is a momentary switch, which is only engaged when it is pressed down, like a tap tempo switch.  The second is an on/off switch.  The wiring in the box is the same for both.  The only difference is the swtich itself.  I bought one of each switch for each box to increase the functionality.

And in practice, yes it is like the heal/toe.  You can set the levels for whatever you like for the on and off positions. In other words, it doesn't have to be all the way on/all the way off.  For example, I use the momentary switches primarily to increase the feedback level of both the Analog w/Mod and LoRes delays.  This gives me the ability to push the delay into self oscillation.  The off position is set to my normal feedback level and the on position is set to about 95%.  I use the latching switches to change speed settings on tremolo/phaser/vibrato effects.  Off is set to a slower speed and on is set to a higher speed.  For one of my tremelo settings the off position is set to about 40% and the on position is set to about 80%.  I also use the momentary switch for pitch gliding.  I set the off position to 0.0 and the on position to 24.  This gives me the two octave rise.  Does that help?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-20 09:08:13

I don't know a single thing when it comes to electronics like that.  So when I saw momentary and latching I thought you meant that the switch can be used to go from momentary to latch scene mode on your pedal board.  I presume that those are just technical terms for the type or hardware then?   I thought it meant that you don't have to go into settings and switch to latch scene mode and that you can do it from a switch.

So one is like an on/off like on any other typical pedal, and one is kind of like something you have to hold down to have it on and when you release it turns back off then?

Thanks for all the help.  I think I'll head down to the store today and pick up some sqitches and give this a try.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-20 09:28:10

Ah, gotcha.  I didn't catch that you were asking about latch mode on the M9.  No, it does not affect that. I is just as you described below.  The latching and momentary just describes the hardware (switches) I used in building the pedal.  The Momentary switch is only on when you hold it down and the latching can be turned on and off and left in either position.

Once you start building the pedal you will see how easy these things are to put together.  Just connect the resistor to the two poles on your switch (or switches if you choose to do two), connect the wire between the switch and your jack and then solder it together.  Good luck, and let me know how it goes.  Just make sure you use a mono jack, a SPST switch (Single Pole Single Throw) either momentary or On/Off (latching) and a 10k ohm resistor.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-20 13:04:04

I plan to use it as a boost pedal more than an expression pedal.  If I was to add a LED light to indicate when boost mode is activated, would that complicate things a lot or would that be an easy addition?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-20 13:26:28

I am sure it is doable but I don't think it is as easy as adding an LED.  The M9 might power it like the DL4 but I don't know that for sure.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-20 14:08:44

Maybe I'll hold off on the light then and just follow yours.  Thanks again for all the help.

I went to The Source (I live in Canada, and Radio Shack was bought out by The Source)...   They had most of the parts, but it was pretty expensive because the resistors were sold in packs of 100 and the switches in packs of 2....  I held off on buying everything.  Then when I came home I googled "guitar pedal parts" and found a really sweet website.  Found all the parts I need including a heavy duty casing with a cool paintjob for under $10.  The shipping to Canada was $20, but luckily for me I have an aunt who lives in the US and comes to visit often.  Shipping to her house was just over $3.

I probably won't get my parts for a while, but when I do I'll post a pic for you.

I know you said you were thinking of upgrading the parts on your pedals you made.  Check out pedalpartsplus.com  They have everything you'll need and it's dirt cheap too.

Thanks again for all the help.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by howdthattaste on 2010-08-20 15:15:27

this is really cool. i like the DIY stuff. i wish i knew enough about it so i could make my own electronic modifications (high level stuff anyway). If you guys got some spare time, could you maybe upload a schematic, or a "momentary/latch switch construction for dummys" guide?

i have an expression pedal, but i mainly use it to control the drive amount on my distortion effect. toe down is 90% drive, toe up is 30%. id like to pass between them faster, and i think such a switch would work perfect, right?

as for a momentary switch, i could think of a couple uses, namely the way eddie uses it for delay. another way would be for controlling the phaser/tremolo speed. unpressed=5%, pressed=90%. This way at the end of a run or something i could slam on it and make it sound wacked-out. im in to that kinda stuff. (i could also foresee replicating some kind of slow down/doppler effect too... still thinking about that one...)

Thanks!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-20 15:34:22

I would love to draw something up for you, but I have NO IDEA how to do any of this stuff either.  Eddie listed the parts that he used and showed that pic.  It looks simple enough, but that's all I'm going on.  I plan to just follow the picture and use the 10k resistor and see what happens.  I've just given you 100% of my knowledge in the DIY department.

I did however make my own Talkbox last summer.  I don't have a switch for turning it on and off and I don't have it attached to my rig, but it works pretty well for recording.  It's REALLY simple too.  No real "circuitry" or whatever you'd call it involved in that.  Just basically need a speaker (an old computer speaker works great), a tube, duct tape, something to enclose the speaker in that's as air tight as possible.  And you'd need a mic to pick up the sound at the end.

So for anyone who doesn't know how a talkbox works.  It's essentially a speaker with a tube attached to it.  The sound travels up the tube, then you put the tube in your mouth.  By changing the shape of your mouth, you alter the sound that comes out of the tube.  (Like if you've ever moved your mouth open and closed while you brush your teeth and you hear it change the sound.)  Then the microphone picks up that sound and plays it through the PA.  So by mouthing words without actually saying anything, you make it sound like the guitar is talking.

So take a computer speaker apart.  Put it into something airtight, or close to it - I use a little jar with a plonger attached on top (a new one that's clean of course).  Take the handle off the plonger and drill a hole through the top where the handle was.  Run a piece of rubber tube through the hole in the top of the plonger and into the jar containing the speaker.  Duct tape the hell out of the thing so that no air will get out.  Plug your guitar into the speaker and put the tube in your mouth and give it a go.  There you have a talkbox.  Use a microphone to pick up the sound coming from the tube in your mouth and amplify it.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-08-20 19:39:43

Right on!  I am looking forward to seeing your finished pedal.  Good choice on a parts company, pedalpartsplus is great.  Another good online shop is effectsconnection.com.

As far as drawing a schematic.....I am not great at drawing schematics, but the photograph should give you enough info to an expression pedal together.  If you have any questions just send me a note and I'd be happy to help out.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-08-20 20:26:33

The pic is easy enough to follow I think.  I've never tried anything like this but from looking at that pic I have no doubt that I'd be capable of doing it.  I have been looking for info on adding an LED to it but haven't really found much.  I'm thinking I'll give it another couple of days and if I still come up empty on how to add the LED then I'll just forget about the light and make it without one.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-09-22 20:56:21

I finally got my parts in the mail after ordering them at least a month ago.  I put together the pedal and it works great.  The only complaint I would have is that the place I ordered from sent me a momentary switch instead of latching.  They're sending me a latching switch for free now though so I'm pretty excited about that.  My original plan was to just use it as a gain boost type of pedal and only use a latching switch, but now that I have a momentary too, I figure I might as well use both.  So as it stands now I have one momentary switch, a nice covered mono jack, and the 10k resister.  Can't wait to get the other switch in the mail. I opted not to try to add the LED light since I can see the settings on my M13 well enough to know when the switch is enabled and when it's not.....and I couldn't find a SPDT switch (which I think I would need if I wanted to add an LED?)

So a HUGE thanks to you eddievaldez for all the info and essentially saving me $100 on buying an expression pedal in the stores.  I also really like the idea of having it on a switch instead of on a wah style pedal since I already have one of those and really just wanted the second one for a gain/volume boost.

I ordered my parts from a few websites, but it's a solid metal casing (very similar to the MXR pedals) in a real nice sparkle purple finish and the switches are both like the standard metal footswitches that you see on most pedals.  All for about $10-$15.

When I finally get my other switch I'll toss up a pic of it.

Bottom line - it works great, looks great, and is built SOLID.  Can't wait to gig again soon and show it off and answer a million "what pedal is that?" questions.

Thanks again eddievaldez!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by cGil on 2010-09-23 00:30:09

Here's the current state of my pedal board with a little breathing room again thanks to the M9;  and some assorted amp projects.

Before...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u103/cgil155/PedalBoard-09.jpg

andafter!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u103/cgil155/EvolutionInProgress.jpg

Andthe ever changing mountain of stuff.  Hey, wet/dry 3-way stereo sure sounds good to me!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u103/cgil155/GASneversleeps.jpg

Ifanyone seriously wants to get into modding and/or building your own amps and pedals, I highly recommend starting your journey at the SEwatt.com/FAQ.    When you're ready, GeoFex.com and runoffgroove.com are THE places to go for the most reliable DIY pedal info around.   My RF Drive pedal is a DIY distortion pedal that started on SEwatt and was later moved to SEwatt's community center, Wattkins.com.  The amps I also built, all except for the Dominator; but all, including the Dominator, are the direct result of hanging around forums like SEwatt.com and 18watt.com.  

Be forwarned, though.  Modding is addictive.  Also known to cause cleaning ladies to run away screaming, as you can probably tell from the photos.  

Gil...



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-09-23 05:45:06

Right on!  I am glad the build worked out for you.  I can't wait to see pictures of your exp pedal. I might have to order some parts and turn mine into a proper build. 



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-10-17 15:50:27

Changed up my dirt section and signal path...

I have a split path on my pedal board running into two amps:

1st Path:
OS, TOD, M9->Fender Pro Junior
2nd Path:
OS, DS-1, SD-1, MXR CD, M9-> Roland JC-50

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by sturge on 2010-10-18 17:30:55

Hey, is that a Marshall Class 5 under there?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by sturge on 2010-10-18 17:39:08

Here's mine:

Pedaltrain board

M13

Ernie Ball Jr. Vol. as expression pedal

Line 6 Relay G30 wireless

I'm running it into the front of a Marshall class 5. 

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by WILLDrocks on 2010-10-20 18:05:21

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This is my m13 board/2 expressions with a tune/2 input box into MXR dyna, SD pickup boost, wah, tube screamer, 4321 with 432 through ball volume in front of amp and 1 through loop of VHT pitbull. I find it very virsital and it sounds killer.

WD



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by djy8131 on 2010-10-27 13:42:12

Finally got my M9.  Here is my setup. 

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by withlin on 2010-10-27 17:33:45

The M9 runs in front of my Vetta and the M13 in the effects loop

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by John_J on 2010-10-28 01:29:33

Hi, Sturge!


How's the Ernie Ball Jr. Vol. as an expression pedal? Are you able to get full operational range and correct polarity/direction with it?

I'm asking because I read that the M13 expects an expression impedance between 0-10k ohm, and the Ernie Balls come in 25k, 250k, 500k, etc.

I've tried my Boss FV-500H as an expression pedal, and it's not working all that great.

Thanks!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by withlin on 2010-10-28 14:37:29

John,

I use the Ernie Ball VP Jr. 25k pedal as an expression pedal and it works great. I highly recommend it.

--Jason



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by sturge on 2010-10-28 15:10:38

Hi John_J.  I love the Ernie Ball vol. pedal.  I use it a lot for the wah and the speed of the trem and it has no trouble with the full range, 0-100.  Its also has a smooth taper, unlike my FBV express that goes with my Spider Valve. 



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by John_J on 2010-10-29 01:49:30

Thanks, Jason and Sturge! :-D

I assume it's the Passive version, yes? Which jack on the pedal do you plug into?

There's no dedicated Expression output, right?

Thanks again!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by howdthattaste on 2010-10-29 10:08:14

i just wanted to say i love this thread. i could look at [your] pedal boards all day.  i'll be posting mine soon.

for those with similar interests:

-Guitar World mag's last page always features someone's rig, with focus on guitars/tunings and signal routing (I found these on google books once)

-GW also has/had a page earlier in the issue that focused on the setlist and a few pedals (google?)

-Premier Guitar has 'rig rundown' videos, focus on pedals, guitars, amps (http://www.premierguitar.com/Video/Category/Rig_Rundowns.aspx)

anyoneknow any other resources? (or links to online versions of these?)

p



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by withlin on 2010-10-29 12:59:58

The 25k one is the "Active" volume pedal. I believe I have it plugged into the output on the pedal but I would need to look at mine again to confirm that.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by howdthattaste on 2010-10-30 05:55:35

AC2 -> DS-2 > M9 -> EHX .44 Mag -> bogner alchemist 2x12.

one EX1 for wah and whammy, and various other tweeks. I just added the boss pedals, so i actually dont use those yet.

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2010-11-19 20:07:04

I finally got around to taking a pic of my pedalboard.  I run my guitar into the morpheus on the left, into the EQ, then over to the Jimi Hendrix wah on the right, into the M13.

The footswitch controls my amp channel and the chorus (I have a Fender Ultimate Chorus amp from the mid 90's...not great, but it's ok).

The purple pedal with the two switches is my homemade expression pedal.  Big thanks to eddievaldez from this board who showed me how to make it.  I use the purple expression pedal to boost the volume and gains on my dirt pedals in the M13 and I use the Roland expression pedal to control Whammy and the rates of my Flanger and Phaser pedals.

I really dislike the Roland expression and don't recommend it to anyone if you're considering getting one.

Thanks again to eddievaldez for the instructions for making the expression pedal.<a target=new href=http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac38/mr__bungle/DSCN1252.jpg"class="jive-image" src="http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac38/mr__bungle/DSCN1252.jpg"/>



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2010-11-21 20:13:30

Say, howdthattaste, very nice set list.  Are you guys an Alice in Chains tribute band or do you just do lots of their tunes?

'Would?' is one of my all time favorite rock songs period.

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by howdthattaste on 2010-11-22 19:27:29

yes, a tribute band. im really proud to be in it. i wasn't really a fan in the 90s, i gave their new album a chance and loved it. as i was rediscovering their catalog, the opportunity came long. "Would" was one of the songs i liked before, but theres alot others now. "Frogs" and "What The Hell Have I" are recent favs.

anyway, i love the DYI pedals kornflake and eddieV made. im gonna try and make some myself. i dont really need a whammy effect for the band, so i could replace the EX-1 with a proper wah and use two DIY switches to "toggle" certain effects, like Gain amount or between smart harmony intervals. it would be like having a M11 of sorts.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2010-11-22 20:17:44

Yeah, those DIY switch pedals are really something.  It's brilliant, using a switch pedal to jump the gain or volume settings right up instead of just another expression pedal.  It's like having two distortion or overdrive pedals in one M13 setting.

Me, I'm useless with a solder - I can even pronounce it - I pronounce the 'L' - but I would love to find a cheap pedal from the store that would do the same thing those do for the M13.  'Anybody have any ideas?  Would those Boss FS-5U non-latching pedals do it?

As for my pedalboard, I just figured out today that the upper shelf comes off of my large NYC pedalboard, so I now have a pedalboard I can use to mount the M13, Dunlop Crybaby and Volume pedals, Boss RT-20 and compressor stompboxes.  Once I figure out the 1" velcro tape thing I should be golden.  I gather that's extra thick velcro tape that will stick the M13 to the board even without removing the rubber feet?  Would it also mount the Crybaby to the board?

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2010-11-23 06:57:32

Hey Kornflake!  That pedal looks great!  Great work!!!  I really need to upgrade my enclosure and switches.

JesseSegovia....the Boss pedals won't work.  You need a resister between the switch and the M9/13.  Seriously...if you can plug in a soldering iron you can build the pedal.  Just read up on soldering and watch a youtube video or two.  I promise it is dead easy.  You can start with Radio Shack parts too (which mine is made from) and it will cost about five bucks plus the soldering iron.  You can even get soldering kits at Radioshack for ten bucks or so.



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by thepalmer on 2011-01-07 08:25:01

I recently got everything to make the DIY expression pedals, pedalpartsplus.com had everything.  But here's to my question.  Has anyone had success adding an LED to the pedal?  Any ideas or tips would be greatly appreciated!!



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by thepalmer on 2011-01-07 10:07:18

Also, I ordered a 10K pot.  Will that work?  I figured its a 10k variable resistor.  So, put that as a variable boost.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by negativefx on 2011-01-07 10:25:29

Stomps are disconnected because I'm in the middle of cleaning up the cables (getting proper lengths, etc.) and waiting on a new power brick.  Not using 4CM because the Alchemist has a garbage parallel effects loop.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by John_J on 2011-01-08 03:54:57

Cool board, dude!

What's that strange small black thingy to the left of the MXR Classic Distortion?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by John_J on 2011-01-08 04:06:30

Here's my 2011 Rig!

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=265302&id=734227938&l=2f5b2b8949



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by phil_m on 2011-01-08 17:15:50

Here's my current M13 board:

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The pedals are as follows:

Boss NS-2, Ernie Ball Volume Jr. (passive),  EXH Soul Preacher, Budda Budwah, Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive, Visual  Sound Jekyll & Hyde, Way Huge Swollen Pickle, Strymon El Capistan,  Strymon Blue Sky, Xotic Effects RC Booster, and finally the M13 (with  two expression pedals).



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by benwolinski on 2011-01-10 07:14:47

Here's my board



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2011-01-12 19:25:49

benwolinski, what's that rainbow one with the five switches in the bottom right corner of your board?  Is that some sort of DIY midi controller or something?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by benwolinski on 2011-01-12 19:33:13

Oh that's just a 5-way true bypass looper covered in different colours.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2011-01-14 21:54:37

Please forgive my ignorance, but what's a 5-way true bypass looper?  What does it do?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by benwolinski on 2011-01-15 00:19:48

The main function of the  bypass strip is to keep the pedals you are not using out of the signal chain  until you want to use them, keeping those tone sucking pedals out of the signal  chain. It also helps by semi-automating your pedalboard, putting access to  most or all of your pedals right there in the front of the board.


You plug a pedal into one of the loops. With mine you can have 5 pedals in each loop. The effect pedal is already turned on, and when you want it to enter your signal chain, you turn on the loop that it is in. Lastly, I don't wear out the pedal and it's switch by stomping on them.


Check out the following websites:

http://www.loop-master.com/

style="color: #3366ff; font-size: 12pt;">http://www.pedalboards.com/true%20bypass.htm

style="color: #3366ff; font-size: 12pt;">http://www.singlecoil.com/tb-strip/tbstrip.htmlstyle="font-size: 12pt;"> (For building your own)


Here's an example of a very large pealboard that makes very good use of a true bypass switcher/looper. This guy would be distracted whilst tap dancing all over his pedalboard rather than concentrating on playing guitar and being creative. You can even have a tuner mute, tap tempo etc built into the strip.

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by kwood on 2011-01-31 14:44:39

here is my board featuring the M13 (i have made a couple small changes since but not much)

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by vfriel on 2011-02-01 15:09:07

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Here is my M9 on a Pedaltrain Pro. I know have enough space for the volume pedal (far right) and maybe another doo-dad i can add later



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2011-02-01 16:02:13

Here's the pedalboard I used in a gig we did last month - the cord between the volume and wah pedals was disconnected to save on battery.  Not too sophisticated but it works for our music which is classic hits.

The guitar goes into the Boss CS-3 Compressor/Sustainer, Boss RT-20 Rotary Emsemble, Vox passive volume pedal, Vox Crybaby, and finally the M13.

Using these external pedals allows me to free up the M13 for more effects.  At this point I'm using the M13 for my rhythm and lead overdrive tones but I'm going to start using my Marshall TSL-122 for clean, rhythm and lead tones which I think sound better than the M13 overdrive sounds.  That will allow me to use more fun tones out of the M13 like maybe some wild Tonebender distortion or harmonizer stuff.

And by the way, the RT-20 does a MUCH better Leslie emulation than the M13.  I'd thought of selling off everything except the M13 and just using that but I can't get around using the M13 for compressor (which I always have on) volume and wah which uses up too many channels of the M13, and I just can't give up awesome sound of the RT-20.

So next I have to find a way to work the TSL-122's five button footswitch and the M13's expression pedal into the board.

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by rodneyzimmerman on 2011-02-02 18:02:23

Xotic Effects BB Plus Overdrive/Dist pedal into the POD HD500.  The M13 and Digitech Timebender are in the loop of the HD.  The M-Audio expression pedal controls wet/dry mix of delays for the HD.  In reading this thread, I'm thinking about adding 2 DIY momentary switches for the M13, so I can jump between extreme settings for split second changes!!!  rod pedalboard.jpg



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by corne on 2011-02-03 03:46:51

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This is my pedalboard. The routing is as follows: Line6 G50 -> TC Electronic PolyTune -> Morley Bad Horsie 2 -> M13 -> Amp. The G50, PolyTune and Bad Horsie are powered by the 1Spot. The M13 is powered with the factory power supply. The power plug is the Neutrik PowerCon. The case is originally for the DAP Showmaster 48. This enables a quick setup-and-go time. (So you have more time to unload and setup the drummer's stuff...)

All the best,

Corné.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by pao2pao16 on 2011-02-15 03:54:30

Here is mine



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by TS5150 on 2011-02-16 07:14:19

This is mine.

M13 - Tremonti Wah - Relay 30 - TC Electronic vocal-thing - mxr smart gate - peavey 6505 floorboard



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by swickpro on 2011-02-16 08:37:36

http://line6.com/community/message/210587#210587

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by solracman on 2011-02-19 04:38:35

hey swickpro, just curious. Isn't the line6 tuner good enough? why do you still have a tu-2 on your board.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by swickpro on 2011-02-19 06:44:55
Isn't the line6 tuner good enough? why do you still have a tu-2 on your board.

The M13 tuner if fine.  I don't like that it mutes the signal when on, plus I don't see it nearly as well as the TU-2.  I catch glare all the time off of the little LCD windows (note the picture).  Bright sun, blinding stage, smoky room, sweat in my eyes, the TU-2 is always visible.  Plus, the TU-2 has a Bypass output jack that doesn't mute the signal when engaged allowing me to tune while playing.  I leave it on all the time.  If I need to mute I just volume pedal down.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by solracman on 2011-02-22 03:01:10

here's my "m9 and friends" set up.

ibanez ts9, ibanez fl9, zoom ultra fuzz, ehx micro pog, sib fazeadelic, gigfx chopper with the M9



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-03-27 22:01:11

I just revamped my pedalboard. I picked up a WH Pork Loin and simplified things a bit. My two DIY expression pedals are still hanging in there too. :-) I am loving my tone more than ever.

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Suchapinch on 2011-04-05 19:59:00

Another board with an eddievaldez expression pedal (led added)



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by drock2k1 on 2011-04-21 17:42:45

Here is mine. Sorry for the low quality. I run my acoustic (no dirt), Telecaster and Strats through this setup. This is all mounted on a Pedaltran Pro 2. The Pedals to the right of my expression pedal is a Sarendipidy (ZenDrive clone) and a Boss OD2. I don't usually have the Liverpol and Blonde on the board at the same time. I run this straight to the PA and it sounds great IMO. To be honest, if I had room, I would try to figure out how to fit my HD500 on here too

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2011-04-21 18:10:29

Suchapinch how did you get the LED to work?  I know nothing about electronics or anything so, but I made a pedal following the parts eddie told me to get and the photo he sent.  Any chance you could send me some info on the parts I'd need to get an LED on there?  Is it an easy enough thing to add or are you like a pro pedal maker?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Suchapinch on 2011-04-21 18:44:40

No pro pedal builder here, in fact it was my first attempt. let me see if I can post a picture of the guts. The good thing is no signal though this, just an expression pedal, so you can be pretty sloppy with the wiring. I used two 22 ohm resistors on the switches to get 11 ohms, which is close to the 10 ohms the m9 is looking for. I think that I had a 200 ohm resistor on the led (burned out the first one).



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-04-22 12:17:50

That is awesome!  I've been wanting to rebuild mine with better enclosures and switches, looks like I'll be adding an LED too.  Thanks for the info!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kornflake19 on 2011-04-22 19:05:38

That's awesome!  Thanks for the info.  Looks like I might be buying an LED in the near future.

Thanks to both of you, eddie and suchapinch, for the help.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Suchapinch on 2011-04-24 20:05:34

My "final"  M9 board.

The Micro Pog's buffered bypass was really messing up the distorted sounds, so I made the bypass looper (blue pedal) to keep it out of the chain until needed. Otherwise, the Micro Pog/M9 combo is awsome.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-04-26 19:55:51

Another dirt pedal change....

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2011-04-26 20:31:59

Awesome!  So is anyone interested in building one of Eddie's custom expression boxes and selling it?  I would love to have one that is switchable from latching to non-latching and has an LED that shines when it's engaged, even if it's in non-latching mode.

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Suchapinch on 2011-04-26 21:15:04

That OCD pedal is something special huh? The first distortion pedal that I have played that really does clean up and get quieter when you back off the guitar's volume. I was looking for a booster, but the OCD sounded better as a booster than the booster pedals I was looking at.

@jessesegovia  I could build you one like the one that I made for myself. There's a price break on the parts if I make 10 of these. Anyone else interested?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by RyoFCSaeba on 2011-04-27 05:38:08

This is my pedalboard!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-04-27 09:46:59

Yeah, I am loving my OCD.  I just picked it up last night so I have only had a few minutes to play with it but it sounds so good.  It cleans up really well and it stack really well with my Pork Loin.  So far, this is the best sounding dirt section I've ever had.

Now it is time to buy some pedal parts and build a couple more expression pedals.  I'll post pictures when they are done.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2011-04-27 11:29:49

I would definitely be interested.  Can you tell me exactly how your two-button pedal works, the one with two buttons on it, one of which has an LED?  I assume the one with the LED is latched and can kick some setting up or down but what does the other button do?

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-04-27 14:02:02

Based on the gut shot I'd say the LED is for the latching switch only.  The second switch is a momentary switch which you can use for quick changes that last only as long as you hold down the footswitch.  It works well for pitch shifting, whammy effects (works great for octave up parts ala Tom Morello) or kicking your delay into self oscillation. You can also use it as a momentary kill switch or for stuttering effects when used with a drive setting.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jeremycwl on 2011-04-28 03:20:59

Hi Guys, here's a couple of pics of my EddieValdez-inspired switchbox. Big thanks has got to go to Eddie for starting up this little project, and I hope he doesn't mind that I've lifted his ideas to use for my own box!

Anyway here's the shots attached. I used a latch on/off switch, and a momentary switch too. The LED is wired only to the latch switch as I thought with your foot on the momentary button, you don't really need an LED to show you what you're doing!! Two 10k resistors are attached to the switches to match impedence with my M9.

Basic graphics using some Sharpie pens. Note the pink circle, where I screwed up drilling my first LED hole. The enclosure is a Hammond 1590B.

Initially I wired the  negative of the battery snap straight to the LED. But this meant the circuit was always live, whether you were plugged in or not. Now I've wired the negative of the snap to ring and the negative leg of the LED to the sleeve of the jack (this is a common wiring method in stompboxes). When you plug in a mono cable, the ring and sleeve / ground parts of the pedal jack are joined up through the barrel shaft of the cable jack. So now the circuit is only live when there's a cable plugged in, just like normal pedals. Woohoo!

I can make this for anyone if there's some interest, or I can put up a schematic and a how-to guide so you can do it yourself! Thanks again to Eddie!!

Cheers,

Jeremy

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by eddievaldez on 2011-04-28 06:04:37

Awesome job Jeremy!  I do not mind at all, in fact I am stoked that I've inspired all these great builds. And I love your Sharpie artwork.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Suchapinch on 2011-04-28 06:22:48

Looks like we need to start a new tread "show off your expression pedal"

I had to use two 22ohm resistors to get 11ohms, when I used 10ohm resistors I was getting less than 5ohms and wasn't able to get to the limits of some settings. Maybe I wired mine differently. Have you tested the resistance of the pedal?

I didn't bother with a battery, I figured no power, no M9.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jeremycwl on 2011-04-28 07:32:34

Well this is odd! I just tested mine and I'm getting 5k ohms in bypass and 0 ohms when engaged. But when I tested it on the M9 the pedal does give me full sweep range.

I did a little investigating online and it seems the two resistors in this setup are wired in parallel, which means when they are running together you halve the total resistance, hence the 5k ohm result. So your way of using a 22k ohm resistor will get halved down to the 11k ohm range which the M9 likes.

But my M9 is happy with my little switchbox (I use it for boosting up drive levels) but I'll go and do some testing on other effect parameters to see if I can still get a full sweep with the 5k ohm output.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by howdthattaste on 2011-04-28 11:45:58

here's an idea, and im full of em (and probably something else too)... could we make a expression pedal that occilates between on/off? for example, say you had a pitch glide effect. when you click the button, the pedal occilates between 0 and +12. when you click off, it reverts to 0. The next question is: "ok, at what rate?". Well, there would also need to be a knob that controls the rate, much like a tremolo or phaser effect. Turn to the right, it occilates faster. next question "what type of occilation? step or wave?" Right, gets more compliacated, i assume....

basically, if you're still following at this point, take a look at a BOSS TR-2. pretend: instead of plugging the output of the pedal into your amp, plug it into the EXP1 input on the M9. The controls would be about to same, except no need for Depth. i see it could be cool for bouncing back and fourth between pitch intervals, but there might be other crazy possibilities like delay time, rapid EQ changes, etc. im into that weird stuff.

so... no?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by teddybut on 2011-04-28 15:19:03

Moog MP 201 does that.... has it's own built in LFO's....



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by schlagdog on 2011-07-15 17:53:57

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jessesegovia on 2011-08-02 19:27:25

I am very interested in buying one of these, with both the latching and the non-latching buttons and the LED for the latching side.  A schematic would do me no good since I am not adept at soldering and electronic assembly.

Have you thought about how much you'd charge for one?

Jesse



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jeremycwl on 2011-08-03 01:22:26

Hi Jesse, I did do a basic pricing for it. The box and the switches are the most costly parts, the other parts not too much. I think I priced it at about £16.00 (probably about $30.00) which seems quite a lot for a simple switch box - parts in the UK are not too cheap. Local postage in the UK is no problem, but overseas shipping with insurance etc might add up.

I could draw up a basic schematic and maybe you could find help from the forum or someone else to help you build one? It's not a hard design to knock up.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by mattkemmer on 2011-08-26 08:29:14

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by rohmer91 on 2011-11-03 03:06:35

Here is mine. The Vox is a DIY expression pedal.

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by JoshuaSama on 2011-11-19 01:10:08

My humble pedalboard.

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Line6 Relay G30 ---> Cmatmods Signa Drive ---> Goosoniqueworx Seventheaven ---> Line6 M9 with exp pedal



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by Kleine on 2011-11-19 02:18:38

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by rodney13 on 2012-05-06 04:40:12

  untitled.png Vox Cooltron pedals into M13  and have left enough room on the right to add a volume pedal later on



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by mosk22rte on 2012-05-09 17:50:12

I alluded to this in a couple of other threads, so I might as well post a picture:

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Rewiring the vintage effects at the moment so if you look closely you'll see that the bottom looper isn't fully hooked up yet, but it will be soon. Everything on the board (including the M13) is powered via a single MXR MC-403, which is mounted to the underside of the board.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by vanfaux on 2012-06-10 10:52:20

My pedal board with DIY mod vox wah expression pedal.



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by mathamology on 2012-06-28 13:25:30

Here's mine;

myboard



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by geeker on 2012-06-28 13:56:24

Here's mine......

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jrbflk on 2012-06-29 10:21:05

Stereo rig using Apple Logic with the M9 for automatic live looping, switching and effects:

Here is the SIGNAL flow:

Guitar > G50 Wireless > Korg Pitchblack > Sound Sculpture ABCadabra > Line 6 M9 OR Mesa Triple Rectifier > Marshall JVM 210H > Mesa Stereo 4x12


MIDI flow:

Apple Logic > M-Audio MidAir Interface > Axess Electronics CF4 > Sound Sculpture ABCadabra > Marshall JVM 210H to Line 6 M9

Here's the video:

http://youtu.be/i2mtKT8kQck

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jshaker_14 on 2012-07-31 13:02:19

That's a pretty awesome pedal! I bought my M9 on ebay and it came with a T1M expression switch. What are the schematics of your pedal? I see that you only use one 1/4" jack, is this stereo or mono? And how do you encorporate the momentary switch with the other?

Basically I guess what I'm asking is that it appears you have the option of using the momentary or the other to change the parameters on the M9, is this the case? or do they work in conjuction with each other?



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by jshaker_14 on 2012-07-31 13:05:31

I'm interested in your schematic! Could you please send it to me? (if you still have it around..)



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by franjoe30 on 2012-08-16 04:48:17

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Just saw this post, here's my board, just bought the M9 and i'm loving it. For anyone interested the M5 goes through the front of the amp and the M9 goes in the fx loop. Great pedals



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by foomanfat on 2012-11-29 14:59:34

This is my guy.

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Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by joelster on 2013-01-08 12:15:23

Hi.

This is my first post round these parts. I do notice that this is kind of an old thread but I just finished tweaking my latest board so I thought I'd post it.<a target=new href=http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/joelstirnkorb/1FFDE6EB-40F3-4147-AEDD-F4D2C1AED039-2553-00000171B67A6B7D.jpg"class="jive-image" src="http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/joelstirnkorb/1FFDE6EB-40F3-4147-AEDD-F4D2C1AED039-2553-00000171B67A6B7D.jpg"/>Cheers!



Re: Show off your M13/M9 pedalboard
by rick_l6 on 2013-03-09 02:48:13

Here is my current setup.

I use the bottom M9 for modulation fx and special fx like envelope filter, octave, ...

The top M9 is for solo boost, delays and reverbs.

The Nose expression pedals are used for delay level and to morf between subtle chorus and leslie type vivrato.

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