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Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by stepheningham on 2010-12-11 10:36:44

Will Line 6 be releasing the rechargeable battery pack from the new James Tyler Variax to fit into ealier models of Variax?

Will there be a left hand version of the acoustic or James Tyler variax models?



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by Nick_Mattocks on 2010-12-11 11:23:26

Personally I doubt very much whether a rechargeable battery pack will ever be released for the current Variax guitars.  It would have happened by now if at all.  You can use standard rechargeable batteries if you wish.

There have been quite a few requests for left handed JTV guitars and if you look at comments on this from Rich Renken (JTV product manager) on the James Tyler Variax group forum the answer has pretty much been that it won't happen with the initial launch.  Line 6 rarely comment on their plans for current or future products, so we'll have to wait and see 



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by silverhead on 2010-12-11 12:33:52

I agree with Nick. But if you plan to use rechargeables, bring a spare pack because they tend to have a shorter life. The Variax seems to require batteries that are nearly fully charged, and the rechargeables tend to lose their charge more quickly than alkaline when used in the Variax.



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by amx05462 on 2010-12-11 15:07:14

+1 to nick



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by thealiasofMarc on 2011-02-04 11:49:21

The reason the rechargeable batteries seem to run out so quickly has to do with voltage. Standard alkaline batteries are rated at 1.5V each, while standard rechargeable batteries are only 1.2V. That's not going to make a huge difference to a flashlight, but when you are dealing with one of these guitars (or most anything that uses a whole bunch of batteries in series, you're going to notice the difference a lot more. Even fully charged, (6)(1.2V) is only getting you up to 7.2V, as opposed to the full (6)(1.5V)=9V you would start at with alkalines. So you charge up your NiMH AA's all the way, pop 'em into your guitar and the instrument is seeing weak batteries from the moment you put them in. The way around this would be to construct your own battery pack, using more cells [say 8 instead of 6, for (8)(1.2V)=9.6V)] and attach it using a 9V battery connector, so you wouldn't even have to splice anything. Even if you used AAA NiMH cells to make sure everything fit, you'd still be ahead of the game as long as you end up in a closer voltage range... And if you're really nitpicky or overly concerned about blowing the Variax circuitry with an extra 0.6 V, then you could always wire a voltage regulator into your battery pack to keep it at a consistent 9V...

There is some theory, now do what you will with that information.

Cheers.



Re: ((8>D}}... read this really well-crafted answer by "thealiasofMarc"!
by JellyWheat on 2011-02-04 14:19:55

Thanks, this is one of the best explanations of the "rechargeable problem" I have read!

Sincerely,

JellyWheat



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by seker316 on 2011-02-04 17:43:55

One more question on this topic.  What about the Eneloop batteries?  They are rated at 1.2V, but are supposed to last longer.  Are these safe to use in a Variax 600?

Thanks



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by amx05462 on 2011-02-05 02:50:10

the trouble  is that  the variax  requires  peak battery    performance  to work correctly.   when the  batteries  are   discharged   slightly   your guitar will shut  down  or   not work right   ( cut  out) .

  yet the batteries  are perfectly fine  for any  other   application.



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by zeddd on 2011-02-07 06:23:33

amx05462 wrote:

the trouble  is that  the variax  requires  peak battery    performance  to work correctly.   when the  batteries  are   discharged   slightly   your guitar will shut  down  or   not work right   ( cut  out) .

  yet the batteries  are perfectly fine  for any  other   application.

Are we talking about the old Variax models? I assume so, since I am expecting that JTV's are going to provide 12 hours of battery life for each charge, as advertised. They must have addressed this issue of the Variax requiring "peak battery performance to work correctly". Yes?



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by thealiasofMarc on 2011-02-07 09:06:20

Yes, this thread pertains only to the older Variax models, before the JTV.



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by amx05462 on 2011-02-07 13:47:40

+1 ^



Re: Rechargeable Battery Pack for Variax
by mashgear on 2012-10-30 12:56:47

I notice that this is a rather old thread, but I have been working on this issue for awhile and just recently got a solution that I think works. I have the electronics from a 500 in a beautiful walnut Warmoth custom body and maple neck that I'm not about to part with (to buy a new Variax with the nice rechargeable Lithium Ion battery pack). But I'm sick of hauling around an external power supply or buying disposable AAs in 20 packs.The first thing I tried was loading the standard 6 pack of AAs with Eneloops. For the reasons described so well in this thread, that did not work at all. I guess 6 x 1.2 or 7.2 volts just doesn't cut it. I didn't want to mess with a voltage regulator also described in this thread, so I went with 7 Eneloop AAAs which theoretically should be producing about 8.4 volts. I bought a 4-AAA battery case (with a 9v snap connector) and a 3-AAA battery case (with solder lugs) and glued them back-to-back. I cut the wire that goes across the 4-battery case and soldered it up to the lugs of the 3-battery case. That combination fits in the orginal cavity in the guitar--no modification required. It works like a champ. I just started using it so I don't have much to say about battery life. I'm hoping that using 7 batteries will mitigate, to some degree, the smaller AAAs and the reduced life of rechargables. Thanks to thealiasofMark in this chain who really helped me figure this out. If anybody else out there has experience with a similar set up, I'd love to hear about it.




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