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POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2011-04-10 10:31:19

We all want to see new amps in our POD HD 500 in the next firmware update. why don't make a list of the most desired

I begin:

1. Roland Jazz Chorus

2. Orange AD30

3. Custom Two-rock (hey, I want the sound of John mayer lol)

4. .....................

add your favorite  bye  

inquiry

http://line6.com/support/polls/1094?pollSuccess=true



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MGoBlue on 2011-04-10 14:08:34

Please, please, please add a 5150 ("Criminal" in PodFarm speak) and a VariAC  for some solid VH sounds.

Thanks.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by matt34500 on 2011-04-10 14:35:00

Jazz Chorus

Peavey 5150

Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by rodney13 on 2011-04-10 15:46:44

Soldano SLO 100

Komet 60



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by flavioalbuq on 2011-04-10 16:01:23
pevaey 5150 II

Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2011-04-10 16:42:52

a masco classic

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by lopez919 on 2011-04-10 16:50:02

I am right on with you bro... Really want and AD30. can't deny the Orange OD



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by DeanDinosaur on 2011-04-10 17:03:53

Drive channel of a Mesa Boogie Mark II C+,



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by guitarzan_josh on 2011-04-10 17:47:25

"Purge" from my old Vetta was great for some Ratt type tones

SLO and 88

JMP and ADAs would be cool too.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by kevmomuny on 2011-04-10 19:28:14

1964 Fender Super Reverb Amp



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by toneman2121 on 2011-04-10 20:40:04

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by grouptherapy on 2011-04-11 01:03:09

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Channel 4 with ISF featurte



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2011-04-11 15:43:11

The most wanted

1. Peavey 5150

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2. Roland Jazz Chorus

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3. Orange AD30

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keep voting!!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnblume on 2011-04-11 16:00:34

SOLDANO SLO 100 !!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by cGil on 2011-04-11 17:10:57

Watkins Dominator!   Yum! 

Gil...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-04-11 17:16:45

this thread would be taken seriously!


In no particular order...


Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+, Lead Channel

Carvin Legacy, Lead Channel

Blackstar S1 200, Channel 4 including ISF control (awesome call ffooxx!!!)

Soldano SLO 100, Overdrive channel


...the ADA MP1 Distortion Channel is a great choice as well!

I see a trend for high gain models suited for articulate soloing,  which shouldn't come as a surprise since there currently aren't any!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by francisb on 2011-04-11 18:08:39

This is starting to be interesting... here is what I used a lot on the X3 and I'm still missing:

1- 5150

2- Soldano

3- Jazz Chorus

4- Marshall Silver

5- Neve Preamp



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by rodney13 on 2011-04-11 20:57:26

Komet 60

If you have ever had the chance to hear one of these babies you would agree

Also Mark Knopfler uses them

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-11 22:14:21

cGil wrote:

Watkins Dominator!  

Yes.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-11 22:17:04

TheRealZap wrote:

a masco classic

<a target=new href=http://www.fast-autos.net/diecast-cars-models/diecast-car-image-large/vintage-masco-harp-guitar-tube-amp-6l6s-nr_190497114815.jpg"class="jive-image" src="http://www.fast-autos.net/diecast-cars-models/diecast-car-image-large/vintage-masco-harp-guitar-tube-amp-6l6s-nr_190497114815.jpg"/>

Very cool.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-11 22:21:21

I want all of those mentioned...

plus especially Marshall/Slash AFD100



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by seksan on 2011-04-12 04:12:29

- Mesa Boogie Mark II C+

- Peavey 5150 or JSX



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by litesnsirens on 2011-04-12 05:07:25

Since they are adding some of the other channels to amps they have already included, I would love for them to add the other volume knob for the hi-watt.  At least the old hi-watt I had back in the 80's had two and you could bring them both up to dial in a real sweet overdrive tone.  If that baby had have been a two channel amp I would probably still have it.  I agree with the Roland JC and the Orange, as far as Mesa's go a Mark l would be nice (also agree with the IIC+).  Matchless and Bad Cat would be good too.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Jimmyno on 2011-04-12 05:59:42

Slo 100

Variac'd Plexi

Mesa Mark II c+

But let's not forget that new amps need new (and better) cabs.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Pezza on 2011-04-12 06:26:41

Vaguely in order:

1. Mesa boogie Mark IIc+

2. Marshall Variac'd Super Lead

3. Diezel VH4

4. Orange AD30TC

5. Marshall Silver Jubilee

6. Fender Dual Showman



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by markbrid on 2011-04-12 06:34:38

1) Dumble with Skyline mod

2) Marshall 100W Super Lead, with EL34's, hardwired early seventies version

3) Tweed Deluxe

4) Marshall JTM45/100 with twin output transformers

5) Marshall 2466 Vintage Modern (just because I have one and it is the best new Marshall in years; it has its own unique tone)

6) Soldano SLO100 with Warren Haynes mod

7) Whatever EVH used on Van Halen 1

8) The famous Marshall that Slash used on the first GNR album



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by fingerscaraballo on 2011-04-12 07:11:36

I would love to see the SPINAL PUPPET  from the X3 and some more Metal Amps LOVE THE HD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 11:03:18

markbrid wrote:


8) The famous Marshall that Slash used on the first GNR album

Agree, but...

that amp went missing long ago so it would seem to be be impossible to aquire for modeling, I think the best we can hope for is the Slash/Marshall AFD100 recreation of that original Super Tremolo head.

Having a model of the AFD100 on tap might also make it easier for people to nail those great George Lynch tones recorded with that same modified Marshall head.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 11:09:32

markbrid wrote:


7) Whatever EVH used on Van Halen 1

Could you imagine...? Whichever company talks (per$uade$) Ed into loaning out that amp for study and simulation will be forever King of all Modeling.

I want my HD500  "Amps of the Stars" model pack!

1. Slash's AFD amp

2. Ed's VH1 amp

3. SRV's Dumble

4. Keef's Twin

Etc.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2011-04-12 13:42:50

I want that amp pack too, and more, but free like the updates of the AXE-FX.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-04-12 14:12:22

markbrid wrote:


7) Whatever EVH used on Van Halen 1

It was just a Marshall 1959 with everything on 10 plugged into a variac with the voltage lowered to about 90V and a dummy load so that it was used as a preamp.  There's absolutely noting special about the amp other than that.  The rest of the tone came from his a Charvel with a maple neck and whatever pickup he uses, his speaker cab (driven by a solid state power amp) and most importantly, Ed's fingers.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by cGil on 2011-04-12 14:58:47

More amps we gotta have, just because...


5W Fender 5C1 Champ        6SJ7>6V6

5W Fender 5E1 Champ        12ax7>6V6

18W Marshall 1974              Same amp as Watkins Dominator, except for 1x12 G12H30w basscone or 2x12 G12M 20w Greenbacks instead of 2x10 15w ELAC's of the Dominator.

18W Orange AD15               5AR4 recto instead of EZ81 = far more sag factor (far more sag than Orange AD30 and TC30 using the same 5AR4 recto); adds TMB tone stack and MV control to above Wattkins/Marshall tones; 10" Jensen P10r and 12" Celestion Vintage 30 combo cab versions.   Personally, I like this amp best with MV dimed.   Big thumbs up!

30w Fender '46 Woody Pro  6SJ7>6SN7(PI)>6L6(x2)

Sunn PA 2000                     12ax7>6AN8>12ax7(PI)>6550(x4)  Think Leslie West  Mountain     -  sweet harmonics and chime from the preamp pentode, sorta fugly overdrive grind too, but that's the power tube's signature!

more to follow.

Gil...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by PremiumJones on 2011-04-12 15:20:00

Peavey Pack©

VTM 60/120

Classic 50 (+410 open and 212 cabs)

Supreme 160 (+412MS cab with Sheffield 1290s)

Rockmaster preamp + Classic 60/60 power amp

Ultra Plus

5150

6505+

JSX

Also a JC120 and SLO would be cool. I never have and likely never will play any of the amps in the POD HD now so more is like free money to me. I would like a range of classic Peavey tones, since I am used to working with Peaveys (read: I am eternally broke )



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 20:32:05

gregr wrote:

markbrid wrote:


7) Whatever EVH used on Van Halen 1

It was just a Marshall 1959 with everything on 10 plugged into a variac with the voltage lowered to about 90V and a dummy load so that it was used as a preamp.  There's absolutely noting special about the amp other than that.

That depends on who you believe... lots of info on that amp on that internet, I tell you.

Here's one sentence that says it all: "It's been claimed widely that Eddie Van Halen's #1 Marshall amplifier         has either been both completely stock or slightly/heavily modded."

Also, the idea that it was used as a preamp, or as one site puts it " It had a transformer-coupled         line out that was used to create a line out signal, which was then run         into another Marshall amp's input. Basically it uses the first amp like         a tube stompbox, and getting increased distortion, feedback, and gain         that way", would make the amp pretty difficult to replicate with the audio chain in the HD. Although, with TWO HDs...

Park with no cab from the first HD into Park on second HD is a possible starting point...

Or L6 could just come up with a custom original amp that replicates this .



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by rodney13 on 2011-04-12 20:37:21

Judging by the request for new amps i think Line 6 would take a look at this forum and say two many requests

so maybe we should set a a voting pole with say 6 most requested amps and let the public decide and that way Line 6 might take us more seriously.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 20:42:45

llemotivell wrote:

I want that amp pack too, and more, but free like the updates of the AXE-FX.

Axe/Fx is giving me free amp models? Awesome... wait, I have to spend how much money to use them?

Nothing is ever "free".

That said, can't wait for HD firmware 1.3 update!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 21:10:57

rodney13 wrote:

Judging by the request for new amps i think Line 6 would take a look at this forum and say two many requests

so maybe we should set a a voting pole with say 6 most requested amps and let the public decide and that way Line 6 might take us more seriously.

I think L6 will pay more attention if eveyrone submits a feature request for whichever amp they would like to see modeled in the HD.

I have already submitted mine



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-04-12 21:57:23

johnnyayyy wrote:


as one site puts it "It had a transformer-coupled line out that was used to create a line out signal, which was then run into another Marshall amp's input. Basically it uses the first amp like a tube stompbox, and getting increased distortion, feedback, and gain that way"

Do your ears tell you that his tone is voiced through a second preamp and tone stack?

Mine don't.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 22:25:26

gregr wrote:

johnnyayyy wrote:


as one site puts it "It had a transformer-coupled line out that was used to create a line out signal, which was then run into another Marshall amp's input. Basically it uses the first amp like a tube stompbox, and getting increased distortion, feedback, and gain that way"

Do your ears tell you that his tone is voiced through a second preamp and tone stack?

Mine don't.

I have never plugged a Jose modded vintage marshall Super Lead with a transformer coupled line out into another Marshall... so are you saying when you tried this it sounded different than Ed's version? I have read all of Jose's modded amps sounded different so I am not really surprised.

My ears tell me it doesn't sound like any normal 1959 Marshall.

And who knows, maybe the "input" used was an effects return. I wasn't there but I would love to hear from anyone here who was

I am pretty sure there were some mods to the amp done by Jose Arredondo, exactly what these mods were is the subject of much debate and speculation and will probably always be an unsolved mystery.

I do know that type of distortion does not come from your fingers...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-04-12 22:57:34

johnnyayyy wrote:

effects return.

erm, yeah, that's it, lol.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 23:03:28

gregr wrote:

johnnyayyy wrote:

effects return.

erm, yeah, that's it, lol.

I don't know, just a guess that would seem to make sense based on what people who allegedly were there have written... I wasn't there, how about you?

I just noticed you wrote the amp  was a Marshall with  "a dummy load so that it was used as a preamp"... do you reckon they plugged that preamp straight into the board and recorded it, or ran it through an amp of some sort and mic'ed the speakers?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-04-12 23:04:57

Were you even alive in the '70s?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-12 23:10:05

gregr wrote:

Were you even alive in the '70s?

All ten years of them. Actually i would say the 1970's was when I was at my most alive.

Soon enough I will be IN my 70's...

How about you?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by geriatric on 2011-04-13 00:21:43

Enough guys! I'm in my 60's. You're scaring me!  70 is coming soon enough. Leave me continue to believe I'm 25.  My wife thinks I am



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by johnnyayyy on 2011-04-13 00:41:50

geriatric wrote:

Enough guys! I'm in my 60's. You're scaring me!  70 is coming soon enough. Leave me continue to believe I'm 25.  My wife thinks I am

25... those were the days...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by markbrid on 2011-04-13 04:36:47

Ah, you guys are proving a point when you comment on EVH's amp; there are many stories and opinions on what his amp and signal chain was.  I don't think anybody knows for sure, or if they do they haven't told.  One common thread is that much of the tone came from Ted Templeman's treatment after it was recorded.  With the HD500, Line 6 has the opportunity to construct a patch with a similar signal chain, but get much closer with the amp model.  Since so many players are chasing that tone, if they get close it could get them some sales.

If Digitech can get access to Eddie Kramer and Brian May, Line 6 should be able to give away some gear and contact EVH for some consultation.

Again I think that Line 6 should develop cusom patches along with the new amps to showcase a famous player's exact signal chain.  Wouldn't it be cool to dial up Hendrix' exact rig that was used at Woodstock?  The HD isn't really that far away from having that capability.  All you need would be a white maple neck Strat with a reverse slant bridge pickup, a long curly cord, and off you'd go.  There are other little details like the loading of the pickups by the first pedal in the chain (most likely different than the 1M or so of the HD) which affects the tone, but maybe that could be modeled too.

I'll add another amp to the list; Jimmy Page's custom Hiwatt (the one with the stacked input channels) that was used on many early Zeppelin albums.  It has a very unique tone, unmistakable once you hear it, and a Marshall won't get that sound.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-04-13 05:37:21

I WANT DUMBLE! ERIC JOHNSON, ROBBEN FORD, SRV!  I WANT STEEL STRING SINGER AND OVERDRIVE SPECIAL! 



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Tones2 on 2011-04-13 13:18:02

Nice thread, but my guess is that the HD series NEVER gets new amps. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems set in stone in the hardware to me. And I've not even seen a HINT from Line6 that this is even possible.

Tony



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2011-04-13 13:20:31

they more than hinted... they have a press release and everything that says 6 new amps are coming... along with some deep editing parameters on the existing amps....



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Vettaville-nl on 2011-04-13 13:29:51

returned handoff

http://www.vettaville.nl/page.php?id=153#1171

cheers

-Hans



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Tones2 on 2011-04-13 14:08:47

D'OH!

I'm not crazy about the amp choices but at least it's possible! Great news! Hopefully many more to come even if we have to pay.

Any clue as to how this gets implemented on the HD300 & HD400 with an amp knob with only 16 choices?

Tony



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by BurntGerbil on 2011-04-13 14:14:32

My absolute favorite model on my Flextone III is the Matchless Chieftain. LOVE that model, I can only imagine how great it would sound on the HD500.

No, literally... I can only imagine it... because it's not on the HD. You know, unless the lovely people at Line 6 feel so inclined to do something about that.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2011-04-13 16:45:20

--------------------------------------------------------

BIG NEWS

--------------------------------------------------------

The new firmware update include six new amps

” The six new HD amp models available in v1.3 are based on* channels from three classic American combos (the “Vibrato” channel of a Fender® Deluxe Reverb®, the “Vibrato” channel of a Fender® Twin Reverb® and the “Bright” channel of a Fender® Bassman®), two British half stacks (the “Normal” channel of a Park 75 and the “Normal” channel of a Marshall® JTM-45 MkII) and a high-gain Line 6 original.

maybe no new amps, only new channels for the old amps plus the line 6 high gain (INSANE I, guess).

I still waiting for the orange AD30, and the best clean ever - rolad jazz chorus

bye



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Wallyg on 2011-04-16 13:19:14

All this EVH talk, I had to put this in.....

http://http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gu1978.php

EVH">http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gu1978.php">http://http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gu1978.php

EVH1978 interview that is fun to read...it says his old Marshalls were stolen on the way back from Japan and that he pushed the voltage up using the Variac not down(which I always read he pushed them up and remember seeing the fans on the amps during their first tour. I also know my tube rigs always sounded better at the places with the "juicer" electricity...we always measured the output of the lines before we plugged in back when I used to travel everywhere and the higher the output the better the tone usually) ...I love the quote about off the rack guitars wouldn't do what he wanted....which is? kick ass and scream! He also talks about bias...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by ellfaco22 on 2011-04-20 09:33:55

Wishlist:

1) Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+, Lead Channel

2) Roland Jazz Chorus



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by rcknrllmn on 2011-05-03 23:15:42

I agree absolutely on those two.  



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by otto70 on 2011-05-04 07:52:59

bass amp + cab so we can lay down some basstracks on our songs, trace elliot maybe?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Chmueller1980 on 2011-05-09 04:54:04

Good one!

I would love to have:

- Two rock custom

- Orange AD30

- Blackstar S1 200, Channel 4 including ISF control

Cheers,

C-Snake



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by irinej on 2011-05-18 18:17:20

1. Diezel VH4 - ch 4

2. Peavey 5150 - lead ch

3. Blackstar S1 200 - ch 4

Cheers




Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by slothrop1234 on 2011-06-03 12:31:57

Peavey 5150

Diezel Herbert

Orange Dark Terror



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Zhorell on 2011-06-03 12:43:32

Peavey XXX

Engl Powerball

Mark V's Drive channels!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by krsp on 2011-06-28 17:20:20

Peavey 5150 or JSX (or both!)

Soldano SLO100

Randall RM100M



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by benson on 2011-07-24 10:44:12

I would love to see the Line 6 Spinal Puppet appear on the HD500. Don't change it, just port it over. I have one particular hi gain patch from my X3 Live which I can't replicate on the HD500



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by ronnied50 on 2011-07-24 13:29:49

Mark 4 drive and clean channels please.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by francisb on 2011-07-24 16:58:59

Spinal Puppet was a good one I also used... there was actually a few interesting Line 6 original on the XT/X3.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2011-07-24 19:43:06

Hi.

I made a quiz for this thread

vote for you favorite

http://line6.com/support/polls/1094?pollSuccess=true

bye



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by AlessioBianchi on 2011-07-25 06:05:10

Hi,

I vote, but I want to vote multiple amps, 'cause I think that the following amps are a must-legendary tone:

- Soldano SLO100

- Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ ( or Mark IV Lead channel )

- Drive channel of a Dumble

- JC120

Bye,

Ale



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by daddyopapa on 2011-07-25 16:10:30

Soldano SLO 100

Fender Tweed Deluxe 5E3

Mesa Boogie IIC+ drive channel

Trainwreck Express

Dumble ODS



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by hollis1003 on 2011-07-26 05:45:12

There is a lack of diversity in the high gain models and the Marshalls, although possibly accurate re-creations do not have enough gain.

Roland JC120

Soldano SLO100

Clean channel of the Soldano rack mounted pre-amp

Deizel VH4

Mesa Boogie Mark IV

Peavey 5150

Many of the Line6 originals were good amps.  Chemical X, Spinal Puppet, Insane.  All excellent.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-07-26 09:28:31

If anything, the J-800 probably has too much gain.

Regarding the Boogie requests, I feel it is really important that the pull controls be included in some way.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by lin3-6 on 2011-07-28 16:46:57

1.Orange Rockerverb 50h

2.Soldano Slo 100

3.5150 III

4.Marshall JVM 410h

5.Diezel Vh4

6.Peavey Classic 30

7.Fender Supersonic 22

8.Marshall AFD100

9.Marshall YJM100

10.ENGL Savage Special Edition E670 EL34



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by donatello73 on 2011-08-15 12:39:17

1. Soldano slo100

2. Vocal - modern

Then I am totaly satisfyed.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Leini on 2011-08-15 14:21:01

Also liked the 5150, although the old "L6 big bottom" was a cool patch too...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by toasterdude on 2011-08-15 18:29:00

SLO

Matchless

Cornford

More DRZs

Trainwreck

Dumble

zen drive stomp

two rock

65 amps

fender vibrolux

fender princeton

Marshal super lead

Peavy classic

Peavy tubefex

Peavey Mace all because someone mentioned a Peavey pack;-)

acoustic pres

Acoustic IRs like the fishman aura pedals, for mandolin dobro, 12 strings, nylon etc etc etc

GK250ML

Rockman

Pignose

Gorilla;-)



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by fireballchaser on 2011-08-22 20:12:30

I miss the Soldano SLO100 from my xt.  That would be my #1 pick for an amp to have on my HD.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by StokesGA on 2011-08-23 07:26:44

KRANK

SOLANDO

CRATE

PEAVY BANDIT

PEAVY CLASSIC CHORUS

SPLAWN

ROCKTRON DISTORTION

B52



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Karl_Houseknecht on 2011-08-23 08:01:09

StokesGA wrote:

CRATE

Really?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2011-08-23 08:18:05

they're even pretty hard to give away!

but hey, it's a unique tone :-) everyone has to have a unique tone!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by litesnsirens on 2011-08-23 08:55:20

I think by the time this thread dies almost every amp out there will have gotten at least one mention.  Who knows if Line 6 will look at this thread or any others when considering what to model next.  Personally I'll be happy with anything they offer.  I have my tones set with the existing models, anything new that comes out will have to dethrone the current champs (and no that's not a vote for the Fender Champ).  At this point if they did feel this was a good resource to help guide their efforts, they can see the most popular and we will be in for some nice updates.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by phil_m on 2011-08-23 10:59:20

I want to make a dual tone with a Crate and a Peavey Bandit... It will be craptacular!

It will be even better when they model a Squier Bullet for the Variax.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by spaceatl on 2011-08-23 11:24:03

Why stop at amps...Why not model a Sholtz Rockman...Sorry, that word "craptacular" reminded me of that...Back when everyone used too much chorus...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Manstone on 2011-08-23 16:48:16

Splawn amps

5150

5150 II

5150 III

Marshall plexi Variac

Mesa Lonestar

Laney Gh 50/100 L

maybe more effects too

Double Tracker

more stereo choruses



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by cripticcult on 2011-08-25 05:14:11

Mesa Boogie Mark IV

Soldano SLO



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by glenbury on 2011-08-25 05:39:09

Soldano

Matchless

Cornford

Dumble

Plexi Variac




Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by relayerjb on 2011-08-25 11:31:03

What he said...

Dumble

SLO-100 (w/ Warren Haynes mod)

Mesa Mark II or Mark IV

Matchless Chieftain

Plexi Variac

5150

Fender Hot Rod Deville or other higher-gain Fender

Orange

JC-120

Bolt BTH-100 (all 3 channels)

Bogner Shiva

some kind of Jazz amp

some kind of full-range/acoustic amp



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Zhorell on 2011-08-26 10:44:42

add bugera too



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by pwbball96 on 2011-09-03 15:19:26

Krank Rev +

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Awesome high gain amp



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by sean106ESP on 2011-09-04 09:30:04

I would love it if they had a JC-120 of course. But the Diezel Herbert and VH4 would be hot.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bryangd07 on 2011-09-04 09:45:11

Peavey 6505 ii

Peavey 6505

Peavey 5150

Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier

i would like to see some new on the pod hd desktop also.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by litesnsirens on 2011-09-09 11:03:18

Isn't the big difference between a dual recitfier and and triple rectifier about 50 watts.  I never owned a dual but I did own a triple.  I have heard and played through my share of duals, personally I would rather they model something completely different than model an amp that is going to sound extremely close to the model of the dual.  Now a few Mark series Mesa's would be good like the I, IIC+ and IV.  I would say Lonestar clean channel but I can get close with the Fender models and I would rather have the JC 120 if given a choice for another clean amp.  Complete with the chorus, even if you have to model the chorus and put it in the form of a pedal due to lack of matching controls on the amp models.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by paulg2 on 2011-09-10 07:31:41

I would like to see

Badcat

Fender Bassman

Orange/AC30



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-09-10 10:56:37

The HD already has a Fender Bassman (both bright and normal channels).



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by litesnsirens on 2011-09-25 13:36:49

I totally forgot about the Stiletto series of Mesa amps... those sound great too, Mesa does a good EL34 amp.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by shredchris on 2011-09-27 01:34:56

A Silver Jubilee would make my day...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Countsluggo on 2011-09-28 08:29:12

Peavey 6505+

Mesa Triple Rectifier

Hughes and Kettner Trilogy

Hughes And Kettner MKII



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by 98line6 on 2011-09-28 08:46:09

J-2000
J-900
Silver Jubilee



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2011-09-28 14:16:07

Matchless Chieftain

Goodsell Custom 33



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by vidaljuanes on 2011-10-10 09:14:01

Yo tenia el PD xt Live,

y me parece que deben estar



Line 6 Spinal Puppet



Line 6 Insane



Brit JM Pre



Treadplate Dual



y los efectos

Auto Swell

Auto Wah (todos)

Y agregar

Metal Zone de Boss

Metal Core de Boss

Acoustic Simulator de Boss

Custom Badass '78 Distortion M78  de MXR

MICRO CHORUS M148 de MXR

GRUNGE de Digitech

Death Metal de Digitech

Metal Master de Digitech



Favor sus comentarios.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by vidaljuanes on 2011-10-10 09:16:00

Genial..



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by spacedworks on 2011-10-11 17:17:57

Sponge Bob Amp!

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by kronda on 2011-10-12 03:52:06

Oh come on, the best amp on my POD XT is Budda Twinmaster (called Zen Master in XT). I'm not upgrading my POD till it's there in HD:)



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Grisky on 2011-10-13 06:13:25

Amps:

(1) Diezel VH4 (silverface) ch.4

(2) Diamond Phantom w/switchable mid focus

(3) Soldano SLO100 w/Warren Haynes mod

(4) ENGL Invader ch.4

(5) Diamond Spitfire II

(6) 5150 II w/Voodoo Amps 'platinum' mod

(7) Two Rock Custom Reverb V3

(8) CEC Brigand ch.2

Cabs:

(1) Ear Candy Buzzbomb ported 212 w/Sugar Cones

(2) open back 212 w/Celestion Bluebacks

(3) closed back 412 w/Celestion Golds

Mics:

(1) Shure SM7B on axis w/ and w/o filter

FX:

(1) Strymon Bluesky ('plate' + 'shimmer' setting w/ high/low damp controls) - replace "Octo" reverb

(2) Maxon AD999Pro - replace "Analog" delay

(3) Keeley Compressor - replace "Blue" compressor

(4) 15-band active graphic EQ w/adjustable Q and click and drag faders in HD Edit - replace current graphic EQ

HD Edit changes:

(1) stereo dB meter on mixer tab

Other:

(1) make volume differences in cabs go away

...my $0.02, most favored additions in italics.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by tighttritenight on 2011-10-13 20:34:08

I think we're asking for the wrong thing.  I could give a rat's ass about authenticity.  I just want amps that sound good.  I run the hd500 into a tube poweramp and almost all of the amps are unusable.  Please Line6, just make them sound good



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2011-10-13 20:39:28

you must be doing a whole lot of something wrong... i use mine and it sounds farkin fantastic.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Grisky on 2011-10-18 07:28:37

Just out of curiosity, is this all empty talk, or is it likely that L6 will add more HD amp models in the future, and can we ever expect to see a VH4 (as several here have named that amp, including myself)?

not to hate on what's there, but it seems like they tried very hard to prove they could nail medium gain and vintage tones.

Job well done!

Now how about more stuff for us modern guys?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2011-10-18 07:36:05

it's widely assumed that more amps will come, given history with their previous stuff...

and they also recently added 6 models...

what isn't known is which amps might be next....

will they be a paid model pack or free update?

i would certainly warn anyone against buying an HD product on the basis of this assumption....

but for those of us that own it, and can use it now...

this thread is pretty much a wishlist of what may/may not happen if/when.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Seppi on 2011-10-18 10:28:14

I WANT A PRE-AMP FOR VOCALS!!! PLEASE!!!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Zhorell on 2011-10-18 10:58:28

Are there any plans of updating the firmware? maybe adding more amp models?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by chimp_spanner on 2011-10-18 11:39:05

I haven't read every post in this thread but I'm willing to bet 5150 comes out on top!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Grisky on 2011-10-19 03:17:45

There have been many great suggestions thus far of both widely used amps (like the 5150) and the boutique (Diezel, Diamond, etc.).

When I think about the potential for this unit I get somewhat overwhelmed. With models that are good enough to be believed (win in a blindfolded A/B test), and smart routing options, a guitarist could find this unit useful throughout his entire playing career.

...therein lies the problem, as Line6 is a company, and companies need to make money in order to survive.

If I'm an exec at L6, I'm thinking to myself that I currently have 2 options as pertains to the floorboard market:

1) continue the tactic of re-releasing virtually the same product in different forms with nominal feature improvements.

2) sell model packs (or individual models a la carte - are you listening Line6???) as updates to the existing platform.

The second option has the obvious logistical advantage of cutting manufacturing/shipping/etc. costs, and it's not a concept foreign to the company, as evident by their PODFarm and related products.

As the end-user, I'd gladly pay, say, $10-20 per amp model and roughly half that per effect or cab/mic combo of quality consistent with previous HD models as opposed to the unit being canceled, with newer HD models available only through new hardware. Model packs are an almost equally appealing thought.

Again, the possibilities are beyond impressive: How many people out there want "X" boutique amp but can't afford it? And how many of those would gladly pay a fraction of the real amp's price to use its HD version instead? Just like the HD500 out of the box, for less than the price of most new amps you could have a collection of very good facimilies of world-class amps. The only difference would be that you, the user, would decide which amps those would be.

...something to consider.

Message was edited by: Grisky
*EDIT: This is in response to TheRealZap's previous post*



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by doctorgone on 2011-10-19 04:14:48

First, I would like to see an easy channel switching feature on every single amp.

From Marshall:

How could they not include the amp that Hendrix, Clapton, Townsend, and endless other legends played!  The Marshall 1959 SLP with both channels, all four inputs, and option to jumper the channels with a cable.  It would be cool if they could also give us signature versions of this amp like Malmsteen, Randy Rhoads, and, of course, Jimi Hendrix.

Signature versions of the JCM 800Slash AFD, Kerry King (w/ KT88 power amps), and Zakk Wylde (w/ El-34s).

JCM 900

JCM 2000 - DSL and TSL

Here are some other amps I'd like to see:

  • Dumble.  Preferably a Steel String Singer, which SRV is said to have used.  I understand this wouldn't be easy, but they can give us just about everything else SRV used.
  • Peavey.  5150, 6505+, Butcher (w/ EL34s)
  • Orange.  Tiny Terror, Dark Terror, Dual Terror, Thunderverb 200, AD-30
  • Roland.  Jazz-Chorus 120
  • Blackstar.  HT Stage 100, Series 1 100
  • 65 Amps.  Lil' Elvis, Royal Albert
  • Solando.  Super Lead Overdrive (SLO), Decatone
  • Mesa/Boogie. Triple Rectifier, Royal Atlantic
  • Vox.  AC-4 TV
  • Egnater.  Tourmaster 4100
  • Blackheart. Hothead 100, This one really sounds like Zeppelin.
  • Randell. Kirk Hammett100
  • Fender.  Princeton

Also, we should have some WEM Cabs and Klon Centaur, different versions of BMP (Civil War, Rams Head, etc), a Pigtronix Envelope-Phaser, Colorsound Powerboost to drive the hell out clean amps, and Sola Sound ToneBender a la Jeff Beck.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-10-19 05:11:38

While I thoroughly enjoy the myriad options of tone building that modelling opens, I feel that the entire musical world has gotten saturated and gluttoned by the options possible.  I use Pod Farm v.2, and in my work, there are so many options that I could use, I'll probably never explore them all.  Sure, I would LOVE to have a Dumble ODS, but since my chances of hitting the lottery to score one are slim, I just dream about it.  Even to MODEL a Dumble is next to impossible, since they're ridiculously expensive, no 2 models sound alike, and they're composition itself are an inherent part of their sound.  Next best option is a Fuchs or a Two Rock, but once again, same situation.

I guess my point is that I've relegated myself to come up with new tones using what I have, and they do sound pretty damn good.  Using a sampler and manipulating the waveform is mind boggling alone!

Everyone has the "magic tone" in their head that will "end the quest".  But this is just chasing the dragon.  I thought my quest was over when I got my first Boogie.  Then a Bassman.  Then a Rivera.  On and on and on.  But this whole "wish list" concept is getting out of hand.  Egnater?  Really?  Blackstar?  65 Amps?  All of these amps are built around something that's already been done, and done better.  With judicious use of EQ, compression, speaker type and mic placement, I've come pretty damn close to a Mark V, and the POD Farm v2.0 doesn't have that amp modelled.  If being creative with what's already there was good enough for Jimmy Page, Eddie Kramer, Bob Rock and countless others, it's good enough for me.  I've even taken my studio setup of a Mac, a KB37, POD Farm v2.0 running into a Fender Twin Reverb to a gig recently, and gotten fantastic, juicy endless sustain for days tones that clean up like a bell by riding my guitar's volume knob.  It was an improvisational type gig, with no charts, with people I've never played with before, and I had no foot controllers, wah, volume or any of the sort; just my guitar.  I got great tones that sliced through the mix, and was able to get at least 10 different sounds with my guitar's volume & tone knobs, pickup selection, and that's it.  All from a single preset.

We as guitarists and musicians have been spoiled rotten by the technology that was a dream 10 years ago, and in this shake and bake drive thru instant gratification I want it now society, we've gotten lazy.  Part of the joy of getting that "TONE" is chasing it down, but it's much easier to stomp on a switch and have it right there.  Then, since it doesn't sound like the TONE we have been dreaming about, there's something else to bitch about.

Thank you, Line 6, for providing me with options I've never dreamed possible with what is considered archaic technology these days.  I hope that your future endeavors will continue to inspire us to craft original, never before heard of tones, not just sound like everyone else.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Grisky on 2011-10-19 05:52:23

good call. let's ditch our washing machines, too. people didn't have those a hundred years ago, but they got by with what they had. we could probably do without cars. why not just use a horse and buggy? or better yet, we could just walk!

the fact of the matter is that those big names you dropped didn't use today's equipment not because they didn't want to. they did it because it didn't exist. bob rock, by the way, currently endorses diamond amps.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-10-19 06:07:36

Way to miss the point there, Grisky.  Just because Diamond Amps cut the Bobster a fat check does not mean that they're the mutt's nuts.  My point, for those of you that need it spelled out for you, is that if you get creative with what you HAVE, since it's a bit difficult to get creative with what you DON'T HAVE, you just might be surprised by what you come up with.

I don't want to sound like whoever Bob Rock is producing, or Jimmy Page, or anyone else.  I want MY tone to be MY tone.  There are enough Kirk Hammett Joe Satriani Insert Your Favorite Guitar Player Cover Pic wannabe's already that sound exactly like the LAST guy on the cover.

I will totally agree with you once you invent some gizmo that magically extrapolates what I'm thinking and turns it into reality.  Once you build a better mousetrap and invent a perpetual motion machine, I'll be the first in line to buy it.  Till then, I'll make do with what I have.  You can have all the amp models known to man, but if you can't use EQ, place a mic right, know about phase cancellation or mastering, or even how to get good tone to begin with, it won't matter, because your setup will still sound like cats being set on fire.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by greghall on 2011-10-19 06:15:24

I had the POD XT Live (with all the model packs) and the X3 Live before moving to the HD500, and I have to say there are some models I miss from those earlier units.

However, I have to agree that having fewer options actually means I now spend more time crafting a good tone, with the current models available, which are all impressive in their own right. The current 16 (or 22 if you count the variations) do offer a good spectrum of different amp sounds and the editing features provide a lot of control.

Maybe less is more .......



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by hollis1003 on 2011-10-19 06:27:30

Just to weigh in with my thoughts as well.  I am using the POD HD500 with a FRFR and in a loud band setting with a DT-50 HD and 4x12 cab.  With the DT-50 I do not use the cab modelling and I feel a lot more free to just play and maybe tweak a eq knob once in a while since I'm not worried about switching mics or cabs. 

So, although less is more I would like to see more amp models as well as some improvement on the existing Bogner.  I am happy with what have but I like more options and it was a little frustrating going from the POD XT with 40+ amp models to the HD with (originally) 16. 

I would say that "model packs" like Line6 has done in the past may cause issues for them that they don't want to deal with again.  If you every sell your gear you have to uninstall the packs and then change them over to the buyer etc.  It can be a pain and I wonder if this causes Line6 any frustration and more customer support issues. Plus having to sell directly to customers (not through a vendor).



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2011-10-19 07:59:13

I guess I will weigh in as well.  I really like where this thread has gone.  QsBlues hit the nail on the head for me with his "chasing the tone" comment.  There are so many variables with the HD500.  After that we have periforal gear, be it tube, solid state, full range, guitar amp, monitor, DT50, DT25 and whatever we are playing.  Probably no person on here is using the same equation to achieve their result and I would be surprised if anyone is looking for the same result as another.

I like the idea of purchasing additonal models and effects as well.  I think I would rather purchase them individually.

I too am looking for those golden tones that speak to me as an individual.  I have found many that I like using Line 6 gear, and hope to find many more.  Keep the ideas flowing on this thread.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-10-19 08:40:06

I know that different people have different uses for their tools, and radically different ideas of how to best utilize them.  I was very close to purchasing a DT50/HD500 setup, when I realized that for the most part, it would pile up on the endless hours I spend already tweaking my sound, and keep me from composing music.  As I've said before, I have some pretty archaic software, at least in today's terms.  I don't always need the latest and greatest, since I'm primarily a studio musician.  When I do play live with my improv band, what may sound great to me in my studio will not translate as well on stage.  If we're playing in a complex time signature, having multi tapped delay, chorusing and what not will throw everyone off, so I leave that stuff for composing.  Pitch shifting is a great effect, but what if the tune is in Lydian b7, or Super Locrian?  The same intervals with diatonic pitch shifting won't work, even with the best intelligent harmonizers if you're playing with 7 people and improvising on the spot. 

Over the years, I've found that no matter how many months I spend crafting that perfect sound using whatever I have at my disposal, in the end, it depends on how well it sits in the mix.  I'm not Robben Ford, or Larry Carlton, so I know that people won't make a pilgrimage just to hear MY tone.  Their entire careers have been built around THEIR sound.  But with some work, I can craft something that is uniquely mine that nobody else can reproduce.  No matter what amps I'm using in any combination will change the fact that my tone starts with ME.  I make mistakes, I hit wrong notes, and all that just like everyone else, so I have to play and mix to my limitations and my strengths.  Will having 100 different amp models do anything for that?  I think not.  But by being creative with compression, EQ, speaker and mic placement, effects chains and orders, I can sound like no one else on the planet.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-10-19 08:55:19

So if you can do it then anyone can do it, regardless of their style of playing.  Rrrigt.

-or-

Because you're happy then that must mean the rest of us are a bunch of spoiled whining brats; nice.

Anyway, I agree that EQ can make a huge difference, but that raises another issue.  If you check around you will see that a lot of us (myself included) aren't exactly thrilled by the EQ options.  None of them provide much resolution in the critical midrange area and the parametric has only one adjustable frequency.  Running three EQs to get the contour you like begins to eat at your ability to run effects.  This is without using EQ to seriously address fizz.  Let's not forget that the leftover slots may need to include the OD that's necessary to morph one of the amp models into sound not otherwise available and then the noise gate to tame it, and perhaps a second noise gate in order to get rid of that annoying residual noise that often comes from a slow attack which pretty much can't be dialed out without seriously crippling your sustain.  If you're lucky you might be able to get a delay, and a couple more effects in there.  This is certainly no more fancy than any normal, non-modeling rig, just that it burns a lot of slots just getting the tone and taming the noise.  It's something that can otherwise be done easily with a seven (or more) band EQ, and a decent noise gate.

There are a few glaring holes in the diversity of the tone stack structure in the higher-gain amps.  It really shouldn't come as a surprise that people are asking for the Soldano and/or 5150 models, for example.  As another example, the only model that has any low-end oomph is the Treadplate, but not everyone likes the way the rest of that amp sounds and EQing this amp doesn't really go very far in altering its tonal qualities.  The Marshalls are thin, far thinner than either of the Marshalls I own (TSL100, JCM900 MKIII) or often play through (JVM410, JMP 2203).  This really isn't about the Marshalls, however.  My quest for thicker tone stems from my attempt to replicate the sounds I get from my Boogie Quad preamp.   It's important that I also mention that I am interested in getting these tones without cabinet emulation, since I'm running an amp with a 4x12.

I guess having to use the HD500 without having to lug around a rack and deal with 4CM is too much to ask for.  Ah, but never mind me.  I'm just a spoiled rotten brat for thinking that a few more DSP algorithms and improvements in existing ones is not unreasonable.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-10-19 12:57:17

Wow ... just wow.  Sounds like the least of your problems is your guitar tone.

I've had a Boogie Quad setup with the prerequisite rack effects, and the Stereo 2:90 as well.  Lugging around 2 4x12 cabs wasn't a lot of fun, either.  So, after my $12,000 setup got stolen, I decided that for most venues that I play in, having 90 watts of power in stereo is a bit much.  Maybe scaling down a bit was a good move, and seeking some anger management helped me as well, since I no longer rage about small things that really don't matter that much.

Nobody said you or anyone else was a "spoiled whiny brat", that was a term that you've placed upon yourself.  Yes, I am happy with my setup because I CHOOSE to be happy with my setup, that's all.  I could be complaining that I don't have this sound or that sound, or the EQ is lacking this, or the reverb is not boingy enough ... but really, what is the point?  If I want to look for a problem, I guarantee that I will find it.  I don't care what new algorithim, gadget, gizmo, widget that any company rolls out ... my problem with anything that I see is with my perception of it.  Regarding guitar, life or otherwise.  Maybe I need to practice more.  Maybe I need to practice less and compose more. 

Maybe I need to just breathe.  I'm not doing anything special, just thinking outside of the box once in a while, instead of waiting for the solution to fall into my lap.  More often than not, it's right in front of me, but only if I CHOOSE to see it that way.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-10-19 13:41:24

QsBlues wrote:

I could be complaining that I don't have this sound or that sound, or the EQ is lacking this, or the reverb is not boingy enough ... but really, what is the point?

You could, sure.

Wondering what ever happened to an amp that has been in Line 6's modeling arsenal since just about the very beginning and realizing that there is no comparable tone to be had without having to jump through hoops in order to maybe capture a small semblance of it is quite far from this characterization you're trying to convey.

You choose to be happy with your setup; that's great.  I choose to be happy with my setup and largely am even when it is usually just my TSL half-stack slaved to my HD500.  I don't choose to suggest the efforts of those wanting to fill some holes in what is an otherwise exceptional product is *****ing about it, however.

FWIW, I really don't consider myself a spoiled rotten brat and do agree with you that technology has indeed "spoiled" us (provided that simply means made things more convenient).  FWIW2, I wouldn't be surprised if we do see a SLO100 model in the not so distant future, which, in my book justifies the existence of forum topics such as this one.  I think it is safe to say that Line 6 is responsive to its customers, and for that I am grateful.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by QsBlues on 2011-10-19 14:06:59

I am happy that we are able to come to mutual ground in agreement on this topic.  Sure, just like any guitarist, I had G.A.S. to the nth degree.  Working in music stores like Daddy's in Boston, Sam Ash in NYC and Guitar Center here in Harrisburg certainly didn't help my G.A.S. either.  I am happy with my setup simply because I am learning new aspects about it.  While I'm not touring anymore, I went through my share of frustration with my sound, and thought that the Mark IV, Boogie Quad, Rivera Knucklehead, Blackface Super, and the myriad of amps, effects processors, stompboxes etc., would be the ticket.  Sadly, they were not.  However, I am learning new aspects of my simple, modest studio that is remarkably flexible, versatile and quite handy when it comes to finding that right frequency to tweak, that right plug in to add some "oomph", or the right amp for a particular tune, and I have Line 6 to thank for providing me with that ability. (Along with Apple, Propellerheads, Ableton, and so on)

I will say that I long to have a Dumble, but I'll settle for a Fuchs.  I want an Axe-FX Ultra II, but my KB37 and POD Farm do quite nicely as well.  The latest version of Logic Studio would be nice, but Garageband in conjunction with Reason and Ableton 8 have me covered.  I do, however, have an SLO100 model that is very, very nice

I truly hope that your concerns are addressed, as you've brought up some solid points.  We guitarists are a finicky, never quite satisfied bunch, aren't we?

Having said that, I'm getting back to making music!

Peace,

Q



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-10-19 14:22:06

Finicky, yes, we definitely are!

At the end of the day it is about playing music and no one is likely going to be as picky about a guitar player's tone than that guitar player.  It is definitely unfortunate when minor and fairly inconsequential tweaks get in the way of someone's playing.  On the other hand, good tone can also inspire someone to play better.  Without taking anything away from your experience and the other excellent equipment you have or have had, just by being a Boogie owner, I'm sure you understand this quite well.  Those amps will force you to be a become a better player.

Right now I'm writing this post when I should be recording.  A guitar is in my lap with recording software running in the background this very moment.  How sad is that!?!  To have GAS and be a procrastinator.  Yikes!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by wickedcold on 2011-10-22 11:45:19

Honestly, I'd be more interested in a more flexible EQ model than any particular amp.  Like others have mentioned a 7-band graphic or a three or four band parametric would completely transform this device.  As it is now, filling every available slot (besides the essential noise gate) with the single band parametric EQ will allow you to achieve almost any tone you want and it "fixes" a lot of the issues with various amps, but the downside is you can't use anything else in your effects chain.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by giwrgos_sd on 2011-10-29 12:26:33

You really have to put the PEAVY 5150!!!!!

some other amps that i think will please the extreme metal guitar players and make many more to buy the pod hd are

1)peavy 5150 (again xD)

2)engl powerball

3)diezel vh4

4)orange dark terror



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by HenriAngel143 on 2011-11-07 00:33:34

Please, get some Peavey models in here. 5150 and 6505 would be great models to put into HD.

Of course, when I figure out on my X3 Live that Peavey amp models are where my style is, I switch to the HD500 to find it doesn't come with Peavey amps.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MGblade on 2011-11-07 04:10:39

a matchless dc-30 would be very nice



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gvansanten on 2011-11-08 06:59:02

I'm in for a Roland JC-120. I've got the real one, but it would be great to have such a small version in my HD500 :-)

Also, long time ago in the 70's, there was this AWESOME H&H IC100 L amplifier with a gorgeous, almost valve-like sound, up to hardrock/metal. It could also do an extremely clean tone, though, and it was LOUD. I'd love to have an emulation of this one. PLEASE L6...

more info on H&H IC100 L: http://www.hhamplification.co.uk/ampcompic.asp?bigpics=dbfiles/amps/vsb.jpg

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And since we're on the subject. I don't like the included EQ's in the HD500, especially the fact that in many of them, the frequencies are not even shown. That's really a bummer. I would love to see a really good fully parametric EQ with shelving hi and lo.

So, in short:

JC-120

H&H IC100 L (PLEASE!)

Fully Parametric EQ



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by arislaf on 2011-11-18 01:49:23

Hell yeah, a JC-120 would be great, I would pay for new amps, really!!!But I would love to see line6 models also:

modern high gain, super clean, clean, chunk chunk! And a small tweed (a.k.a. fender deluxe wide panel 59)



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by paulhinton1 on 2011-11-19 03:39:59

I would like to see a 6505, VH4 and possibly an Engl invader. An acoustic sim or a compressor that doesn't distort all that easily would be fantastic and this may seem a bit odd but perhaps give us the tools to create our own Big Bottom the X3 manual said that this was a blend of a Mesa and another amp. If you remade those we could have our own "custom" BB.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MF_Kitten on 2011-11-19 05:20:12

Actually, the big bottom was based off of a mesa boogie amp with a sub:

Line 6 Big Bottom – Just can’t seem to get enough bottom end out of your cabinet? Try punishing it with Big Bottom. We crossed a Boogie® Triple Rectifier® with a Rivera Los Lobottom sub rig and dialed it in for serious disembowelment. But it’s not just about the bass. A super wide midrange control and an extra presence high midrange maintain articulation and power throughout the tonal range of this amp.

So the good news is that you can get pretty much the same sound just using the treadplate model on the POD HD. I would like to add some settings for you, to get you closer:

Set the bias-x to 0, and the bias all the way up. This gives a very clean and tight sound. Turn sag very low, or just off. Turn the master down to 40% or lower. Maybe even turn it up, it depends on how you like it really.

Then boost the front of the amp with something that removes some lows and low mids and adds highs and high mids. The graphic EQ can do this precisely, i think.

Then after the amp, add an EQ (parametric), and carefully turn down the low mids somewhere between 200 and 300-ish HZ. Tis gives you a deeper sound.

The settings on the amp (gain, eq) are up to you, of course. But seriously, the treadplate on the HD series retain the samequalities that made the BB awesome, and it has a verydeep low end that you need to get under control, just like the BB did :)



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by gregr on 2011-11-19 05:29:55

MF_Kitten wrote:


Then boost the front of the amp with something that removes some lows and low mids and adds highs and high mids. The graphic EQ can do this precisely, i think.

The Graphic EQ bands are 80, 220, 440*, 1.1k and 2.2k, so not really.

(*) There is a discrepancy between what is shown in the device and what is listed in the manual, the manual says 480.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Grisky on 2011-11-20 02:50:48

Well, version 1.4 has been released, and no new amps. Perhaps L6 does plan on selling bundles or a la carte amp models in the future? There was a new FX though, the improved gate. I could see this helping a lot of people to get tighter metal tones with the existing amps... still would've really loved to have seen some improved cab impulses though, something like recab3 maybe.

*holding out for a Voodoo Amps 'Deluxe' modded 6505+ ch.2 and a Diezel VH4 ch.4



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2011-11-24 20:31:07

If I can have only THREE to have added ASAP to my HD500 and POD HD PRO I would put on my list...

1) Soldano SLO 100 that was modeled previously but just as more "intense" as all the other amp/cab models in the HD product line.  I found so many uses for this amp it is at the heart of nearly half of my patches.  No I'm not a metal head, but I do play metal as well as funk, country, rock, etc.  I found this amp was very flexible in it's responses and very easy to adjust quickly.

2) Mississippi Criminal - similar reasons as the first choice.

3) And for something NO ONE seems to have asked for or thought about...a "FISHMAN Loudbox Performer Acoustic Amp".  I use my Variax guitar in both 6 & 12 string modes LOTS & LOTS while playing Taurus pedals or other stuff with my feet.  It's the one thing I never understood why ANY acoustic based model was left out completely when the previous models have up to four acoustic amp models. 

I play in several trios because of the very poor pay rate in my area.  I play guitar and bass as well as the other guitarist who hates playing bass, but does it because I play the flashy 80's arpeggio sweeps & tapping stuff better.  But he kicks my butt in finger (chicken) pickin' style.  LOL 

So if Line 6 is going to start from scratch why not start with one of the best acoustic amplifiers currently on the market?  If not that then a suped-up version of any of the previous ones would make me very happy.  I currently use TWO PhD amps both in FULL AMP MODE with a 1x15 cab and the other with a 4x10.

It took nearly a month of working just with the HD500 and the JTV-59 to get the sound "perfect" in my opinion, then another week to dial in the DT50s to match the warmth and yet be loud enough WITHOUT break-up.  It works very well for me, but I think it would be nice and perhaps considerate for those of us with Variax guitars who want the acoustic sound and perhaps not able or want to run a separate line to a PA and make it really easy to dial in a great sounding acoustic amp model instead of doing what I had to do?

I'll go make my official vote now while I'm sitting here.

Take care,

Neal



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2011-11-24 20:34:49

Please read my posting about my acoustic amp model I created on the POD HD500.  I hope it might help you with your overdrive issues.  If you still can't dial in the sound, please go to www.vettaville.nl and you'll find my posting of my acoustic amp patch there.  Hans who runs the site was kind enough to ask for it and gave it a very fair revue.

Take care,

Neal



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by daferalo on 2011-11-25 07:00:46

I totally agree with you Neal!!!! Could you please share your acoustic patch? The only way I have been able to get a nice acoustic sound coming from my JTV 59 and POD HD 500 pair is through a real acoustic guitar amp!!! On the other hand, with an electric guitar amp, which does not have tweeters as expected, I have not!!!

Best Regards,

Daf



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by k9lb on 2011-11-25 21:48:05

I want my BOOGIE back!  The Cali Crunch on my xt Live (now fried).  Not on the new and "improved" HD 500.  Why Not?</p></body>



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by paulg2 on 2011-12-24 10:43:00

With almost 28,000 post I really hope line 6 is in the process of adding more amp models! Has anybody heard if they are?



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2011-12-24 13:08:54

All new patches uploaded to CustomTone.  Something weird happened previously where all patches were the same.  This should no longer be the case.

Many of my favorites creations I've posted from everything from Acoustic guitars to classic clean and heavy electric tones for both 6 and 12-string guitars.

Hope they are useful to any who might check them out.  You can also go directly to them by searching under my ID.

Happy Holidays to all!!

Neal



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by defected07 on 2011-12-28 11:31:51

Not sure if it's available, but I'd love a solid Adam Jones (Tool) tone. In order to get that, we'd need models similar to a '76 Marshall Super Bass amp, and a Diezel VH4 Blue Face.

Unless anyone knows how to get close to his tone from existing models on the HD500? Only a couple compatible patches available on CustomTones...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by acompres on 2012-02-11 14:49:04

Bring back the Spinal puppet and Big Bottom

make a better Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ than that of the xt/x3 or Mark IV Lead channel

a 5150 model



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Apologist on 2012-02-11 16:45:21

Its not as hard as you think. similar models ... come close to Adam's sound. The Uber using the very bassy cab and the JCM 800 using 75 or v30 depending on your ear and speakers will get you in the ballpark.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by litesnsirens on 2012-02-11 23:42:12

I weighed in a long time ago, but I now want to cast another vote for the Soldano overdrive channel.  If Line 6 can do it as well as Native Instruments has done it in Guitar Rig 5, then I want it in the HD500.  Not that I don't still want my earlier requests, just that I got the Komplete 8 bundle which included Guitar Rig 5 Pro and that is one of the best sounding models in the whole program.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by artkingjw on 2012-02-12 01:31:37

Jazz Chorus is a solid must (pun not intended)

I'm very surprised Orange wasn't on the first 16

Super Lead is now in! (yay)

Dumble ODS is a MUST (either that or the two rock version)

Trainwreck

a non top boosted channel for the AC30

Matchless



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by xell2006 on 2012-02-12 05:35:13

Orange AD30



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by wetredbox on 2012-02-12 10:20:16

Gibson Mercury

Sunn

Ampeg



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by joeduf on 2012-02-17 12:52:31

Dear Line 6,

Absolutely without question the Soldano SLO-100....that's a must. Get Mike himself involved if necessary unless he is understandably against the whole modelling concept.

Model these two ... Matamp Legend 120 and Orange Overdrive 120...

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Well... let's just say you model these two faithfully and I will go out and buy two POD HD Pro's TOMORROW!

If you do MAKE SURE that the BASS_BOOST (on Matamp) and F.A.C. (on Orange) are faithful at the bass-heavy / fully counter-clockwise position.

You can model my amps if you like! Contact me!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by culbuto on 2012-02-20 14:00:38

A Tweed Deluxe ready to be pushed to its limits

A magic SWART Atomic Space Tone with its magic tremolo and...magic reverb (Hey that's a real challenge !)

An HD model of the Dumble mmmmmm,

And you got so much amazing boutique amps here in America ! Why not modeling beauties like 3 Monkeys, Tone King, Goodsell and others. Every modeling companies works on the same monsters. Please give us some exotic food like this !

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TonyTawfik on 2012-04-10 15:40:51

ORANGE AD30!!!!! or anything Orange really



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by birro on 2012-04-11 09:36:55

Hmmm my turn??

My top 3 wishlist:

1) ADA MP-1 (come on!! This thing is incredible not only for metal but bluesy and clean tones too!! how could they stop selling this and none brand has tried to emulate/imitate or re-issue it??)

<a target=new href=http://dds90.altervista.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ada-mp1.JPG"class="jive-image" height="104" src="http://dds90.altervista.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ada-mp1.JPG" width="801"/>

2) Mesa Boogie Lonestar (should I say something about the clean channel and it's bluesy distortion!?!? )

The only amp I'd ever replace a clean Fender amp tone with. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUj5vh9h47I

alt="http://www.12fret.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/mesa_lonestar_2009c_head/Mesa_Lonestar_2009(C)_head.jpg"class="jive-image" height="369" src="http://www.12fret.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/mesa_lonestar_2009c_head/Mesa_Lonestar_2009(C)_head.jpg" width="712"/>

And last but not least:

3) Mesa Boogie TriAxis (since there aren't any ADA MP-1 newly manufactured, if I had money I'd purchase one. But I'd dream of having a ADA MP-1 )

<a target=new href=http://www.kytty.com/~jreeder/Mesa%20Boogie%20Triaxis.jpg"class="jive-image" height="72" src="http://www.kytty.com/~jreeder/Mesa%20Boogie%20Triaxis.jpg" width="859"/>

IMHO !!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Danielbook on 2012-04-28 03:11:14

I think Line 6 should model these amps for the HD 500:

1. Dumble Steel String Singer

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2. Orange Rockerverb 100H MKII

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3. Soldano SLO 100

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4. Two Rock Custom Reverb

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5. Diezel VH4

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6. Peavey 5150

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Like if you agree!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by d0stenning on 2012-04-29 15:07:48

Forget the Jazz Chorus - give us a Polytone Mini Brute !

and for rock - Pleeez  can we have some BUDDAS !!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Aeolianreflex on 2012-04-29 15:34:59

I would like to see the entire amp modeled for each of the amps already in the HD. It's great to have a duel rectifier lead channel but if I want to clean up the sound I have to change to a different model amp which has a completely different tonal character. That means having to really tweak the clean model so that it doesn't sound so shockingly different when switching in and out of presets. Another added function would be to have each preset remember its effects status when switching in and out. Double pressing the patch button would set the patch to its original configuration. 



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2012-05-05 22:21:45

defected07 wrote:

Not sure if it's available, but I'd love a solid Adam Jones (Tool) tone. In order to get that, we'd need models similar to a '76 Marshall Super Bass amp, and a Diezel VH4 Blue Face.

Unless anyone knows how to get close to his tone from existing models on the HD500? Only a couple compatible patches available on CustomTones...

Hi - I'm not sure if you are referring to the bassist in Tool or the guitarist, but if it is the bassist...I have a POD HD500 or HD PRO patch you could use to get the sound from the album with "Sober" on it.  If you are interested, I can either give you a step by step instruction with I'd refer not to do, or simpler would be just to email or post publicly here a link to the patch I'm referring to.

I'll be back on here Monday night in case you or anyone else might want this patch for playing a real gritty bass sound using their HD50 or HD PRO unit as the preamp if plugging into any stage gear, or full amp model if running direct to PA w/o stage gear.

If interested, all I need to make certain it will work as I expect would be to know how you are running your POD HD unit into whatever gear you are getting your sounds from.  Please just include what amp/cab you are running into - thanks.

Take care,

Neal



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2012-05-05 22:30:50

Just curious - is that a Marshall 8x10 guitar cab lying sideways on the floor in your gear photo?

If it is, I'm very jealous as I that was part of my very first Marshall amp I bought back in 1975 with a 50w Plexi head.  I used it many years for guitar only, then when I started playing bass in a prog rock band back in 1982, I used that head and cab as my bridge pick-up sound from my 1978 4001 Ric-O-Sound split pick-up jack.  The neck pick-up was an Acoustic 360 head into a pair of Cerwin-Vega V30s re-loaded with EV 15"s and an attenuators for the built in horns. 

What a terrific (but back breaking with a large stage footprint) bass rig that was to get any sound by Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Dave Hope (although I had to clean it up a bit more for his sound), and the bassist from the band Starcastle whose name I cannot thin of right now.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MerlinFL on 2012-05-05 22:41:20

birro wrote:

1) ADA MP-1 (come on!! This thing is incredible not only for metal but bluesy and clean tones too!! how could they stop selling this and none brand has tried to emulate/imitate or re-issue it??)

<a target=new href=http://dds90.altervista.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ada-mp1.JPG"class="jive-image" height="104" src="http://dds90.altervista.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ada-mp1.JPG" width="801"/>

Thare a few companies that make single or double rack space preamps like this ADA MP-1.  I also do have the original huge (10 I think) red & black button MIDI footswitch.

The first unit that comes to mind in it's original form (original has a black faceplate with a green Chameleon logo) as the reissues never did quite sound the same.  The Rocktron Chameleon.  No 12AX7 tube, but it does have some terrific clean sounds, as well as balls out heavy sounds. Not much in the way of in-between which is why I paired it up with a Marshall JMP-1 preamp for just those sounds.  MIDI-d them together to switch presets together and one took the "lead" depending on what type of sound I needed.  Both ran into my Marshall 9100 4-space all tube - dual voice - Power amp into a pair or 1960B cabs.

Another newer unit that does use a tube preamp as well as solid state are from Zoom, and Genz-Benz that I am aware of.  I'd bet there are others, but am not familiar with them.

And for super MIDI foot controllers like the ADA controller, Digitech has one and well as Roland. The Roland is better but much more expensive.

I hope this info helps you in any way possible.

Neal

PS - everyone including myself who had this unit had to have two units because of the nearly 1/2 second delay between patches.  They were run in tandum with only one controller for both, but you had to add a MIDI switch between them to go back and forth from one preamp to the other.  Nuno used these as well as many other really execellent guitarists, but always had at least two because of it's delay switching patches.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by MiroslavKloud on 2012-05-19 15:19:18

Probably cannot satisfy everyone. It would be great if it were possible to download only your favorite amps from a wider choice.

I miss:

Dumble Overdrive Special Drive Channel,

Matchless Chieftain and

85 Mesa/Boogie Mark IIc+ Clean Channel

from POD 2.0.

Therefore, I cannot decide whether to buy HD.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by stratchamp on 2012-05-19 16:21:47

Fender 57 champ

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/5169133663_a75437f933.jpg

Roland JC 120

http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/750/JC120-large.jpg

Soldano slo 100
http://www.synergyguitars.com/Soldano-Amplifiers/Soldan-Slo-100-Alligator-Black.jpg
Peavey 5150

http://www.blackobsession.net/images/Gruppo/Instrument/Peavey5150 Head.jpg

I'd be very happy to see Line 6 put those amps on the pod hd


Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by wetredbox on 2012-05-21 12:34:53

Sunn, Ampeg guitar amp, Bogner XTC Fender super sonic



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Zombieslayer5P on 2012-05-21 15:39:13

Mesa Boogie Mk ii c+, Diezel Hagen, Hughes & Kettner Triamp, ENGL Savage 120 (Lead channel),  and each amp's accompanying cab. 



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Yazidosman on 2012-06-08 05:43:54

1. DAR AMP Future Breed Machine

2. Peavey 5150 II



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by fechart on 2012-06-09 12:40:00

EVH 5150 III PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by fechart on 2012-06-09 21:28:29

EVH 5150 IIIDV020_Jpg_Jumbo_430978_460_ivory_R.jpg



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by beagleman2010 on 2012-06-21 16:50:27

I thought i'd bring this back,

Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10" and single 12"

Music Man

Sound City

Some amps for acoustics



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by RipperShred on 2012-06-21 18:25:13

After 11 pages the same names keep coming up, and this post's been around a long time. I'm surprised they don't have these available. EVERYONE wants a...

Peavey 5150/6505+

Mesa/Boogie Mark IV and a IIC+

Soldano Slo 100

Some Deizels

etc

I thought the addition of the Blackstar Series One 200 WITH ISF CONTROL was a great idea too.

(If they weren't mentioned already, I'd personally like a JCM900, and a JCM2000)

The masses are clamouring for some more high gain models. The 3 or 4 that's including are pretty great, but Line 6 really needs to add the amps above to round it out, and really appeal to the metal guys. I'm buying one of these because it seems like a no brainer that they have to be working on them (or rapping up R&D on them) and will at some point deliver them, however, if they really want to heat up their sales numbers they would launch these models sooner than later. I'm sure there are a bunch of rackgear lovin' metalheads like me who are waiting to see the highgain lineup expand before they pull the trigger, or are waiting for one of the aforementioned models to show up because that's THEIR favorite tone.

So what are you waiting for Line 6? Get'r'dun!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by phil_m on 2012-06-21 18:34:44

I thought the addition of the Blackstar Series One 200 WITH ISF CONTROL was a great idea too.

Wouldn't that be a model of a modeling amp, essentially? I mean that's what the ISF control does. It changes the character of the amp from something more Marshall or British-like to something more Mesa or American-like.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by RipperShred on 2012-06-22 15:53:15

Nah, it would be a model of an amp clone maybe, since blackstar's are true tube amps based on the marshall design... But then again you could say that a lot of the high gain amps are marshall clones in some way or another. But the point of this is WE THE PEOPLE want, nay, NEED some more high gain amp models. Heck, not even that many; 6505+, Mesa Mk IV & IIC+, Soldano Slo, JCM900 & 2000; BAM! You've got 90% of the bases covered! The others people listed could be argued as luxury, but these are ESSENTIAL High gain amps! How could they not have made it into the box from the start I don't understand.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by V_Fluffy on 2012-06-24 23:17:26

Why not model the dt50 - that way you can take advantage of all the control featured too within the pod unit



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by jmc855 on 2012-06-26 20:01:01

5150 II, Jazz Corus 120, VariAC SUperLEad, soldano SL100



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by unclejason on 2012-07-05 13:43:29

It would be cool to have an ENGL Savage and/or Powerball II amp model. I know we have the FBALL (Fireball model) but I think the Savage is used more for melodic and power metal, and melodic death metal. It has a ton of distortion yet very clean distortion; the notes are extremely distinguishable where as many high gain amps can sound muddy.

As many have stated, the 5150 would be awesome to have as well.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by spikey on 2012-07-05 19:12:13

And as Time flies by while we wish for stuff...

FYI This thread is almost a year old!!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by arriflexfl on 2012-07-07 09:08:36

I'd love to see a Marshall Bluesbreaker or 1974x combo.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by shorehamsound on 2012-07-09 06:12:29

Soldano SLO 100

(Peavey 5150)

Roland Jazz Chorus



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by nicman on 2012-07-11 20:49:12

make the plexis fatter, like the oness on the spidervalve, but more depth.Give me a Carvin Legacy model, some Laney's, Blackstar, A marshall JMP, a late one. and increase the quality of the amps, they are good but certain models like the 1959 plexi, ok I used this on the spidervalve when I used the spidervalve, a lot for my distorted feedbacking Hendrix sounds, For me the JTM45 had the bottom end, but didnt have the gain of the the JTM100 1959 Plexi on the SV, in the JTM 100 in the POD HD, you got the classic marshall gain, but no bottom end, or a least a believable bottom end, if they can stop the DSP over then thatd be just great, other than that its a fantastic unit



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by randalljax on 2012-07-21 21:44:11

some models i would like to see

A SPAWN based on a Splawn QR 3 gears

MARSHALL AFD silver jubilee

VHT pitbull or Deliverance

BOGNER XTC

MESA MKV.

a global eq that is not in fx 1 for the 400



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Astaroth_CY on 2012-07-22 08:42:35

Marshall JCM2000 (plus the DSL100 variant if possible)

Roland Jazz Chorus!!!

Mesa/Boogie Mk V



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by ryancola on 2012-07-23 02:19:41

The only thing really lacking for me is a high-gain Marshall; JCM900, 2000, etc. Any one of those for some super-saturated '80s metal Marshall tones.

Would also love the Mesa Mark V, but a few of the other high-gain amps can get pretty close. Would really love to see an EQ model of the graphic EQ on a Mark V, though!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Astaroth_CY on 2012-07-23 07:56:47

I've been kind of able to replicate those Marshall 80's metal tones (more specifically Judas Priest and Iron Maiden) like this:

Judas Priest:

Brit J-800, Drive at 80%, Master vol at 30%, high mids and low highs on the amp EQ, through the 4x12 T-75 cab with 121 Ribbon, and on the cab DEPs I have Res at 75% and Thump at 30%. I use just that for the older Priest rhythm tones, then I kick in an Overdrive at 95% Drive and 20% Output for solos or for "later" Priest.

Iron Maiden:

Brit P-75 Nrm, Drive at 100%, Master at 100%, high bass and low highs on the amp EQ, through the 4x12 Blackback cab with 409 Dynamic, and I just have Res at 60%. Before the amp there's a Screamer with 70% Tone, 32% Treble, 75% Drive, 100% Output. Post-amp I have a Tube Comp at 80% Thresh and 2% Level (just to very lightly compress the tone) and for the "chorusy" Somewhere In Time songs, right after the Tube Comp I have a Dimension with SW1 On and everything else off, and Mix is at 25%. Kick in a louder Tube Comp, higher mix Dimension, and Stereo Delay for some sweet solos.

Both of those tones also have a post-amp Studio EQ cutting -8 dB at 500 Hz (removes mud) and -1 dB at 3000 Hz (to give room for vocals intelligibility).

But yeah, it would be amazing to just load up a JCM2000 model and not have to do this much tweaking to hit the 80s metal tones .



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by ss22ss22ss on 2012-07-23 12:05:33

Marshall JCM900

Diezel VH4



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by arresta on 2012-07-23 14:16:51

Mesa Boogie Mark IV or V



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by llemotivell on 2012-07-25 08:29:52

What?? Soldano® slo100 amp + line 6 doom and line 6 epic amps for pod hd 300 and 400 (FIRMWARE 2.0)  and not for pod HD 500.  That not fair.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by jimsreynolds on 2012-07-25 08:49:09

Allow me to invite you to express your outrage on the thread here http://line6.com/support/thread/86302?tstart=30">http://line6.com/support/thread/86302?tstart=30">http://line6.com/support/thread/86302?tstart=30and speculate on the possible date of release for the HD 500/Pro/Bean here http://line6.com/support/thread/86455?tstart=0">http://line6.com/support/thread/86455?tstart=0">http://line6.com/support/thread/86455?tstart=0. 



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by silverhead on 2012-07-25 08:54:54

+1 jim

..... off to the battlefields!!............



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by spikey on 2012-08-07 14:10:39

Not really an amp per say, but it would be sooo kewl if I could get that same warm fenderish organic tubey surup tone that my Vox Tonelab desktop puts out when the VR gain is cranked. And next to a  Keeley,  this little unit has the best sounding compressor in the business to my ears...



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by stratchamp on 2012-08-07 19:44:52

I think I posted earlier in this thread but I'll do it again. 

#1 Roland JC-120

#2 the "small tweed" model from previous pods



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by EnzoHeavenly on 2012-08-24 11:19:33

- Orange OTR120

- Roland Jazz Chorus

- Peavey 5150



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by antares81 on 2012-09-17 07:02:06

Soldano SLO, with all its channels like the 300 and 400 series

Komet 60.

And of course, a pure acoustic amp, it´s ridiculous that we have a variax with acoustics models and the pod has not a proper acoustic model for them



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2012-09-17 08:25:46

I actually subscribe to this thread.  I am now somewhat humored by it and originally guilty of commenting on new models.  I have tweaked all of the limits of my HD500 and to me, it is fairly indispensable.  That being said, lets discuss amp modeling.  Do high gain amps have NO clean settings?  Does a Fender Bassman have a DRIVE knob?  The modeled sounds of the amps in my HD500 are modeled amp settings, not amps.  The only one that is usable for me playing through tube amps is the low wattage Plexi.  I am an old Rock and Roll guy.  I have tweaked everything else until I am tweaked out.  While I have not played though a number of the actual amps that are contained in the pod library, I have played through some, and in most cases, they are not how I would set my sound using those amplifiers.  This device is almost indefinitely tweakable.  I keep seeing suggestions for more choices and I wonder how many view this device as a tool for signal processing and not a tweak toy.  Outside Line6 circles, I have seen a lot of frustration with it, and until I tried to keep it simple, I was one of those guys.  If you want a Diezel with 28 knobs or a Matchless with 3, you may find something close with this device, but it won't be either of the two.

My advice for those who are looking for that thing that they don't have yet, KEEP TWEAKING, FIND YOUR TONE, LOCK IT IN, and PLAY GUITAR!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by meambobbo on 2012-09-17 08:50:36

"Do high gain amps have NO clean settings?  Does a Fender Bassman have a DRIVE knob?"

They don't clean up all the way when reducing Drive, but it's a lot better than prior Pods... At least we're getting the SLO clean channel.  I wouldn't mind also having the Recto's.

As far as Drive knobs for amps that didn't have them...what that is actually adjusting is the preamp Volume knob on the modeled amp - so your pushing the amp's power section (and in some cases slightly pushing the amp's pre-amp output tube as well).  You'll notice the Master DEP is set to 100% for all the non-Master Volume amps.  Being able to change this is basically like having a modded amp, so that there's an attenuator between the pre-amp output tube and the power section.  So you could dime the pre-amp but still keep the power section from distorting, which you couldn't do on the original amp.

Some models have controls that don't exist on the originals, like Mids and Presence on the Fenders.  They do affect the tone.  Personally, I feel they should have been made to do nothing, so the controls are authentic, but I guess it doesn't really hurt so long as they don't change the way the modeling works, just the final EQ.

Of course you are right - Line 6 can't fully model many amps with lots of knobs, but that's not what they try to do.  AFAIK, not many modeling manufacturers attempt to do that either.  For instance, when modeling a Mesa/Boogie Mark IV, which has LOTS of options beyond bass/mids/treble/presence controls, what is actually modeled is ___ channel with bright pot pulled, bass shift pulled, etc.  So you lose a lot of the versatility of the original amp, unless they model every possible combination of the settings you can't tweak.  But generally they aim for the more popular options.

If you want super-precise authenticity, go buy the actual amp.  Line 6 and others are getting close to authentic tone, but only for a subset of available options of the original, and that's just the way its got to be most of the time.  Amps are different, and their available controls don't neatly fit into the common mold the modeling devices have laid out.

Also, there could be DSP concerns.  The more versatile and the more controls needed to take into account equates to more processing time.  It's hard to design a device when 70% of the models use 4 controls, and the other 30% use 20.  So do you beef up the hardware for the 30% at additional cost to those who won't use those models?

Software models tend to incorporate more of such controls - all the switches and such.  They have much more tweakable UI's and more room to incorporate lots of features for models that require it.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2012-09-17 09:54:24

I agree with everything you said.  I am almost afraid of new amp models, because I know I will be trying to make them work for me and I will spend more nights trying to tweak my way to Zen.  I am pretty happy with what I have now, but I was pretty happy with  my rotary phone at one time.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by meambobbo on 2012-09-17 10:26:16

yes, i hear that.  hopefully new amps will be quicker to dial in.  for instance, the absence of a 5150 and Mesa Mark has had me trying numerous tweaks to the Uber to get it to sound like those.  I've finally got it about where I want it.  Hopefully if those amps are ever modeled, it'll take far less tweaking to get them where I want and I can have a more authentic tone.  But I would not be looking forward to repeating the amount of work i've already done. hehe



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by sosmusic on 2012-09-18 09:20:54

Diezel VH4, Diezel VH4, Diezel VH4, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2012-09-18 10:04:14

Well...since the ridiculous requests keep coming, I have one as well.  A Peavey Decade with a busted speaker option.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by bigolsparky on 2012-09-18 10:15:19

How about a Pignose with a half-dead battery in a half full bathtub.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by vidaljuanes on 2012-10-19 09:24:33

GRACIAS AMIGOS EXPERTOS LINE 6 ANOCHE ACTUALICE MI HD500 Y ESTOY SUPER SORPRENDIDO Y FASCINADO CON LOS MODELOS EL EPIC TIENE ALMA.

GRACIAS TOTALES

desde Chile

J.V.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by mannydingo on 2012-10-20 19:38:31

Translation to the post right before this one: Thanks Line 6 expert friends. Last night I updated my HD500 and am super surprised and fascinated with the models. The Epic has soul. Total thanks .......... from Chile

I, the translator, live in the U.S.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by vidaljuanes on 2012-10-26 03:36:32

Gracias mannydingo



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Guitarmaniac64 on 2013-01-24 08:45:40

As many hear say i which in the future there will be emulation of these amps.

5150, Mesa MKIIC+, Roland Jazz Chorus , Elmwood Modena.

Dumble Two Tone and other boutique amps is always welcome also.

And better routing options is always welcome and why not the option to get more DSP power maybe some upgrade chip that wouldn´t cost a fortune to install.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by meambobbo on 2013-01-24 11:55:32

I heard from an inside source that if no one else ever posts on this thread and lets it die, then they're going to add all the amp models listed in this thread AND even the ones you haven't yet posted on here but really really want.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Guitarmaniac64 on 2013-01-24 12:38:32

yeah right!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by vidaljuanes on 2013-01-30 07:46:34

Holas, si llega la hora de pedir me encantarías una separación en el Loop de efectos, es decir, un sen y return para antes de amplificador y otro dedicado para después del amplificador y brindar una versatilidad sin precedentes...

Será mucho pedir???

Hey, if it's time to ask me encantarías separation in the effects loop, ie a sin and return to before and a dedicated amplifier after amplifier and provide unprecedented versatility ...

It will be too much to ask???

saludos a todos.

greetings to all



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by wetredbox on 2013-01-30 16:30:40

Gorilla.jpg



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by JackandCoke on 2013-02-03 04:43:36

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by marijan35 on 2013-02-05 09:16:42

I just love new Soldano , it's my favorite preamp , but i need just one more and that is EVH III



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by rockdonkey on 2013-02-14 15:08:18

ORANGE AMPS !!!! how can the pod not have an orange amp?  it totaly boggles my mind.  if your going

to make a amp mod pedal, Orange amps should be the First amp on the list, Why does all the other big amp mod

competitors have the orange amp?  Guitar rig has it,  I have tried to emulate a orange amp using the L6 Epic amp and

412-G25 cab , the 421 Dyn mic and the tube drive pedal. but its not nearly accurate enough to compare to the other

amp sims like Guitar rig's orange amp sim.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by shernkenstein on 2013-02-18 01:51:53

1. Diezel VH4

2. Mesa MKIIC+

3. Roland Jazz Chorus JC120



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by Gessinger10 on 2013-02-18 07:39:22

I want AFD100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by joel_brown on 2013-02-18 08:13:52

Sorry to go against the grain here but I don't think we need any more amp models.  Fixing the EQ to something more usable would be my preferance.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by TheRealZap on 2013-02-18 08:30:38

i mostly agree... especially another high gain clone of a clone of a clone...

i would however be interested in a JC-120 model, or maybe some orange...

although i think that EQ would be a higher priority.



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by myconsumerclub on 2013-02-18 12:47:17

Cornford also in the fx were is the warblematic



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by medievil1 on 2013-02-18 13:52:41

afd100 (both afd and #34 mode) and jcm slash.. and fix the crappy speaker stuff... waaaaay to complicated... do it easy like amplitube.. show the speaker and let us move the pic to the position we want

and fix the EQ.. the thing is waaaay to muddy... and highs are waaay to fizzy.. there is no middle

should have a set highend and low end range depending on the speakers selected that they are capable of reproducing... I mean I have never heard a vintage 30 stack, sound like mud with ANY amp head.. they have a set range (70-5000Hz) and resonace (Vintage 30's are 75hz) and freq response.

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Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by sloppyfingers on 2013-02-18 14:03:02

I also say a big no to new amp models..We have enough now..Especially the high gain ones.

More tweaks and improvements through up-dates..Yes

How a made for - pod external device to help the HD

what I mean is perhaps a real tube direct type box to go between the pod and an amp..Made specifically for the pod.Something simple.

Or something between the guitar and pod..Nothing major, and only if they can't tweak it within the unit through up dates..



Re: POD HD 500 - New amps
by medbad5150 on 2013-02-18 18:39:16

No disrespect to anyone here but I look through this thread sometimes, some people want Line 6 to design a pedal just for them! "They should have an amp blah blah that only one atrist used back in the 50's blah that splits and connects to XYZ blah blah.

I know you probably are just wishful thinking, but some peoples posts talk of selling and buying something else!!




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