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Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by jpoprock on 2012-02-28 13:03:28

I don't understand why if you've backed up your presets and upgraded firmware, why you would choose NOT to keep your old presets? Why would you choose to lose them? Is there some kind of benefit that I'm missing? If you say Yes to keep them, are you then not getting the changes contained in the update, to any models or FX that you are using in the saved patch?

What then happens if I immediately import my saved setlists or bundles? Are they the "old" unchanged sounds on a new system, or the old ones but now "updated"? I never understood why they say to do it this way.

And of course, found NOTHING via a search relevant to this. And I know it's been asked before. Nice.

Thanks!
Jason



Re: Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by jpoprock on 2012-02-28 13:14:44

I did a Google search for my question and found a zillion answers... but yet I can't find these results doing a search on the Line 6 site? Smooth.

I found this http://line6.com/support/message/350230

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Butit still doesn't say (what might be obvious I don't know), what then happens when you import your old patches? If I've spent tons of time tweaking my patches to sound good, why would I choose to start over again?? I'd much rather choose to have whatever changes that were made to the sounds, but with MY settings. Losing my adjustments would result in hours of work. So, I back up, update, then import my old patches/set lists, and what....? what happpens? Do I benefit in the same way as answering "no"?

It's hard for me to explain this obviously... but either I'm a moron (which I am not), or the reasoning behind doing this isn't explained clearly enough.

"We said to say no, so say no, and don't ask why you should or shouldn't!"

Actually, they did say why, but I still would like to know more about it. "Say No, and allow the update to replace your existing presets with the new ones". But doesn't that totally wipe away any modifications you've made to the preset? Are presets different than something I have copied to a bank, tweaked, and saved to suit my tastes? If that is a preset, then why would I choose to have to start over on something that could have taken me hours to perfect for my environment?

Bottom line: >>>>Does importing it back in result in a "non updated" sound with my adjustments or an "updated" sound with my adjustsments?

Thanks!



Jason



Re: Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by silverhead on 2012-02-28 13:26:23

jpoprock wrote:

I don't understand why if you've backed up your presets and upgraded firmware, why you would choose NOT to keep your old presets? Why would you choose to lose them?...

because sometimes  new firmware includes new factory presets and the only way to get them is to say 'yes'  to replacing the existing presets. For instance, HD500 firmware v1.4 (I think it was) included a whole new setlist with presets for bass, acoustic guiitar, and vocals.

Of course before updating you should use HD500 Edit to save your existing setlists/presets. Then you can simply restore them after getting the new ones.You certai nly don't have to recreate them from scratch.



Re: Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by phil_m on 2012-02-28 13:27:42

Some of the firmware updates include new factory presets, so if you choose to save your existing presets you won't get those presets in the update. If you want the new presets and your existing ones, just backup your existing ones before the update, overwrite everything, and reload your existing ones.

It's a good idea to backup your existing presets before doing the update in any case.

Also, sometimes updates will change the sound of your existing presets. It all depends on what's changed in the update.



Re: Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by jimsreynolds on 2012-02-28 13:57:15

And on the search thing:  the search does work OK.  It's just that the default search options are not well chosen.  Try this --> http://line6.com/support/thread/78636.">http://line6.com/support/thread/78636">http://line6.com/support/thread/78636.



Re: Updating Firmware: Why say "no" to saving presets?
by jpoprock on 2012-02-29 13:26:02

Ok, that is what I needed to know. I back up my presets like crazy. So, once I do the update, they will all be gone and I'll be "back to factory". From there it's just a matter of importing my Saved Setlists, and all will be as it was, but with perhaps new and improved tweaks. I thought the old patches retained the "old" info.

Thank you all!




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