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Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by billlozon on 2012-04-16 17:45:06

For what it's worth, I plugged "acoustic" into search without much success. I know a lot depends on the guitar I'm using (assume Strat for this question) but can anyone suggest ideal settings for an acoustic sound on my Spider IV 75? Most of the programmed presets seem to lean towards metal, heavy orck, etc. Thanks for any ideas/suggestions folks.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by fflbrgst on 2012-04-17 05:19:10

Line 6 does not have any acoustic simulations in their presets and I really don't think you can get one that will truly be satisfactory.  I tried a few that were in the customtones.com site but they really were not close.

Best thing you can do is go for a 'clean red' manual setting, then take some treble out, add some mid and bass with maybe a touch of reverb.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by billlozon on 2012-04-17 06:41:54

fflbrgst, I appreciate the quick and helpful response. I tried your suggestion and it sounds pretty good. Odd that Line 6 has neglected acoustic presets since it's a relatively large segment of the music scene.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by silverhead on 2012-04-17 07:01:46

I don't think Line 6 has neglected acoustic players/presets at all. In fact, quite the opposite.

I think what they have done is acknowledged that you won't really get a good, consistent acoustic sound using any arbitrary electric guitar. The guitar itself makes such a difference that a general preset is pretty much useless. And if you want a good acoustic sound you need to start with an acoustic guitr (or a good model of one). So they have developed two very good approaches:
- a number of presets designed to accept an acoustic (not electric) guitar as input

- a number of excellent good acoustic guitar models  in their Variax guitars (very recently updated in the JTV series)

btw, if I want a good electric guitar sound I don't expect to get it using an acoustic guitar, either. You've got to start with the right basic instrument.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by fflbrgst on 2012-04-17 11:13:23

Silverhead has good points - use the appropriate tool for the job!  Wish I could afford a Variax!

I have plugged my acoustic into my Spider IV 75 and then created new sound patches for it, as most of the presets are for electric/metal, etc.  I start with a clean red, add some drive (boosts the volume and gives some warmth), adjust the tone - as I'm using a dreadnought I dial out some bass, then can do various things like adding a little chorus or flange, or reverb or delay.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by billlozon on 2012-04-17 11:32:58

Thank you for adding to the discussion. Your comment about using the right tool for the job is spot on however I don't have the luxury of utilizing several different guitars when playing with the group I'm involved with (Christian pop, for a teen Mass every Sunday). Physical performing space is at a premium making it difficult to manage several guitars and we often move from a quiet contemplative number where an acoustic sound is ideal to a more upbeat, rock-like song that fairly shouts "use a solid-body electric" without a lot of time between numbers to switch instruments... and, there's no roadie/guitar tech standing by ready to hand me a different guitar anyway.

I'm not much of a techician but from a layman's point of view I reasoned that if Line 6 can make a single Variax sound like screaming Strat or a 12 string Guild acoustic at the turn of dial, I'd hope they could apply the same ingenuity to the Spider IV.  That, apparently isn't the case but happily fflbrgst's suggestion gets me close enough.



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by omengson on 2012-12-18 08:59:02

i just use this set to make my line 6 spider iv 15 sound like acoustic.. im using my acoustic electric guitar with Belcat piezo electric pick-up


DRIVE - 0

BASS - 6

MID - 0

TReble - 0

Chan VOL - 7

PRESS Crunch or Clean

pre-amp controls (guitar control)

Bass - 0

Mid - lower

Treble - lower

Presence - lower

hope you like the tune

Message was edited by: omengson



Re: Suggestions for acoustic presets?
by fflbrgst on 2012-12-19 05:53:00

You can certainly get some interesting tones from an acoustic through your Spider!  As long as you keep the gain/volume in control for feedback issues, you can use any of the presets (or create your own).  I found switching to the Comfortably Numb lead preset with my acoustic gives a pretty interesting take on this psychedelic rock song!   You can certainly dial in more distortion or crunch to get a 'less acoustic' sound, and the great thing about the Spider (assuming you have an FBV controller) is you can switch from one sound to the next quickly, as long as you have them programmed into the User Presets on your amp.




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