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Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by samuelito2011 on 2012-07-27 11:57:55

Hello Friends

I have a big question, does anyone know how the pod hd500 react adding analog pedals such as : chorus, noisegate, ODs, etc?

Im about to but the pod hd500 with a pedaltrain pro but i also want to combine analog pedals. Im afraid the analog pedals will be a waster for buying it, thats why im looking for answer for those who is combining them.

if anyone know a video, a track or sound! please post the link and i will listen it!

Im planning to combine just analog pedals with pod hd500 amps and then direct to Mixer! thats my idea!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by wetredbox on 2012-07-27 16:06:01

I wanted to do this too and have found a good sound. Although  I use the 4 cable method or 4CM with an amp, you can probably just use the od's, distortions, compressors before the Pod, then in your amp patch insert an effects loop and put your mod type boxes in the loop, then run out from that to your mixer.  put the effect loop patch just before the amp sim. then try after to what sounds better

I use the above method but with 4CM and the pedals all sound great.  be sure to set your levels proper in the mixer as to not overdrive your mixer channel which would sund like crap unless it's a fine old tube mixer or something

If that does not sound so good then try running it without the loop patch.  I've also had some luck running everything straight into the mixer.

I'm sure there is a more technically appropriate way to do it and that someone will pipe up to say so, but in the mean time I'd give this a shot.  seems to be the most straight forward method.  be sure to set your output in the POD to direct or studio
yo



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by spaceatl on 2012-07-27 16:28:31

I have a bunch of pedals I use...Mostly with my HD400...I also have an HD Bean and I use them with it also, but only recording as that setup is less practical live...

Right now I have a BOSS BCB-60 with mostly old Boss pedals in it...I have a Strymon OB.1 compressor...My prized pedal is my Boss DM-3 analog delay...All of them work great with the HD Pods...



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by samuelito2011 on 2012-07-29 06:28:41

thank you guys!

I just wish i could see your pedalboards have a better idea how it looks!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by fede17_dream on 2012-07-29 12:23:17

Hola, en este post deje un poco de como la uso, la verdad es que suena muy bien... espero q te sirva! Saludos!

http://www.musiquiatra.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=55161



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by samuelito2011 on 2012-07-30 19:18:33

no lo puedo ver si no estoy registrado! Im not able to read it because im not register!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by fede17_dream on 2012-07-31 04:24:23

Uhh, bueno, lo copio y lo voy pegando :

"Hola! :D Acá dejo un video donde boludeo un poco con mi setup. En el video hay una descripción de lo que usé. El audio es de una cámara de fotos de baja calidad, mas adelante si puedo armo algo bien y lo filmo en hd.

Espero que les guste y perdón por los pifies.


Aca les dejo unas fotos:

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Es una "Pluma" modelo "JP1" hecha por el luthier Cristian Iannamico. La verdad que se suena todo, me encanta. :D


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Estoy usando el metodo de los 4 cables con el Pod y algunos pedales individuales. Mi idea es de a poco pasar de usar la pedalera a usar solo pedales y algun controlador. Por el momento así es como uso todo:

Wah Vox v847 >>> CAE boost/line driver >>> Pod Hd 500 Guitar input >>> Pod Hd 500 "Pre FX"(efectos antes del input del amp) >>>Pod Hd 500 Send >>> Mxr Script Phase 90 >>> Mxr Gt-Od >>> Vintage Electric Nü Twin 50w 6l6 input >>> Vintage Electric Send >>> Mxr Analog Chorus >>> EHX Memory Boy >>> Pod Hd 500 Return >>> Pod Hd 500 "Post FX"(efectos despues del pre del amp) >>> Pod Hd 500 Main out "Left" >>> Vintage Electric Return >>> Vintage Electric Speaker Out >>> Vintage Electric 2x12 con Celestion V30.

A veces uso las dos salidas "L" y "R" entrando a con la "R" a la potencia de un Nativo que se llega a ver en la 2da foto.

Uso la MBS multipower para todo menos para el Pod y el Memory Boy que viene con su fuente y es 9.6v.

Saludos!! :D

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Agregue un "Hall of Fame" de Tc Electronic.

Dejo unas fotos de todo armado con la pedalboard que me hice con Alex Cases! La saque hoy con el cel en el ensayo:

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Saludos!

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Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by samuelito2011 on 2012-07-31 17:45:23

wow Esto es Excelente Gracias



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-08-01 05:20:51

Pero que genial... estare analizando tu configuración pero hace mucho que buscaba esta union de los efectos analogos + el HD500,

Yo tengo el LEXICON MX200 y el Bloody Mary T-Rex.  y como tu dices quiero emigrar pero no tanto porque el HD500 brinda muchas aplicaciones que son para mi imposibles de costear con pedales analogos...   y espero pronto el Reverb Room Mate.

tambien mi diferencia es que tengo un Power esterero.

espero subir unos review..

gracias.



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by samuelito2011 on 2012-08-01 18:58:48

One of the things im looking guys and to be more specific is How analog pedals react with pod hd500 amps? could i improve them with singles stomp boxes? or just sucks and it sound the same? this is what im looking! anyone knows something about it?



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-08-06 04:21:24

Sure you can improve.
how hard is a professional setting.

analyzes the configuarción TC G-System Electrinic



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by the_budmaster on 2012-08-06 04:57:45

Great vid! Nice work :)



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by Crusty_Old_Rocker on 2012-08-06 05:33:28

The modelled amps respond the same way that the real amps would with the same pedal infront of them.  It's really as simple as that.  If you hit these amp models with a hotter input from a boost, they'll start to overdrive up just like the real amp would.  If you put a distorted tone, modulated tone or wah'ed tone into them, they'll amplify that tone and react to it in the same way as the real amp that's being modelled.  Line 6 have put an enormous amount of effort into the authenticity of their amp modelling and it shows when you do things like put pedals into the modelled effects chain.

Cheers,

Crusty



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by scotty_burford on 2012-08-06 13:33:05

I use several different pedals in my setup and they sound fantastic with the POD. I have a Hotcake Overdrive, Eric Johnson Fuzz Face, Vox Satchurator, BBE Boosta and a Deja Uni-Vibe in conjunction with the POD.

In the past few months ( I admit I struggled to get the tones I had hoped for initially) I have had many people comment on my tone and say how awesome it sounds. Always a good thing. Didn't always get that with my last setup!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-08-12 11:54:01

seria muy bueno saber como los conectas, si lo haces antes del POD, despues del POD o en el interior del HD Edit.

desde ya gracias.

J.V.

would be nice to know how to plug them, if you do it before POD after POD or within the HD Edit.

from and through.

J.V.



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-12-07 04:02:58

Holas, estoy a las puertas de comprarme un amplificador Egnater Tourmaster , y quiero saber como es la configuración en utilizando el software, con el metodo de los 4 cables.

estoy claro que debo enviar las distorsiones al imput del amplificador, eso significa enviarlas desde el SEN del HD500, pero los reverb y delay como se mostrarian en el software?

Hellos, I'm on the verge of buying a Egnater Tourmaster amp, and I want to know what the configuration using the software, with the 4-wire method.


I am clear that I send the amplifier distortions imput, that means sent from the SEN of the HD500, but the reverb and delay as displayed in the software?

gracias por sus comentarios.



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by fede17_dream on 2012-12-08 04:55:30

Hola! Las reverbs y delays tendrían que estar despues del bloque "FXLoop" del pod, para ubicarlos despues del pre del amplificador.

Saludos!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-12-08 05:43:16

ok, gracias Fede17_dream, entonces el setting es:

1) cable 1 : de Input guitarra a IN del HD

2) cable 2: del SEN del HD al Input del Amplificador ( y equi configuro el FXLoop con un compresor por ejemplo y luego un overdrive ) y tambien podria colocar (SEN del HD al Input del Bloody Mary y del Ouput del Bloody al Imput del Amplificador)

3) Cable 3: Return del HD al SEN del Amplificador

4) Cable 4: del Out del HD a Return del Amplificador y el delay + reverb que configuro en el software se iria por aqui?

desde ya gracias.

ok, thanks Fede17_dream, then the setting is:


1) Cable 1: Input IN HD guitar

2) Cable 2: SEN of HD to Amplifier Input (and configure the equipment FXLoop with a compressor for example, and then an overdrive) and could also put (SEN of HD to the Bloddy Input Ouput of Mary and the Imput of Blody Amplifier)

3) Cable 3: Return of the SEN HD Amplifier

4) Cable 4: Out of the HD to Amplifier Return delay + reverb and configure the software that would go over here?



from already thank you.



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by fede17_dream on 2012-12-08 07:24:21

No se si entendi bien la pregunta...

Vos queres conectar el Bloody Mary con el pod y el amplificador con el metodo de los 4 cables?

La cadena podria ser asi: 

1) Cable 1 Guitarra >>> HD in >>> Efectos del pod qe quieras antes del pre del ampli (distorsion, etc) >>> FXLoop(del pod) >>>

2)Cable 2  HD SEND (envío) >>> AMP Input

3 )Cable 3: AMP SEND >>> HD Return >>> Efectos que quieras despues del pre del amplificador (Delays, Reverbs, etc, los que configuras "por software").

4)Cable 4: HD Main Out (L o R) >>> AMP Return.

El Bloody Mary lo podes poner entre la guitarra y el pod, o entre el SEND del pod y el Input del AMP. Fijate como te gusta mas. Va a depender de que simulacion uses del pod. Tenes que ordenar las ganancias. Yo pondria de menor ganancia a mayor. O sea, si usas el Screamer del pod, el Bloody Mary lo pondría entre el SEND del Pod y el Input del AMP. Pero es cuestion de probar...

Espero que te sirva la respuesta, saludos!



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by vidaljuanes on 2012-12-08 07:42:42

OK, esa era mi duda, te pasaste.

al cambiar mi configuración de entrar a un power y ahora conectarme a un cabezal a tubos los bajos son muy hermosos, el bass del bloody supera en mucho al bass que te entrega el HD.

saludos.

OK, that was my question, you spent.

to change my settings to get to power and connect to a head now to the low tubes are very beautiful, the bass of bloody far exceeds delivers bass you HD.



greetings.



Re: Question about pod hd500 with analog pedals!!!
by ciadude2 on 2012-12-08 10:23:56

I've only used overdrive/distortion pedals in front of it but they've worked pretty well.

The Boss Metalzone sounds exactly like the one built in the HD500 I have, but with a few more tone tweaking options. Other than that though, spot on.

So if you have pedals you want to use with the HD500 go for it.




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