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i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by blueyes on 2012-12-06 06:52:51

i`m playing guitar for the last 40yrs and had never heard of line6 here in ireland untill 6mths ago till a friend introduced me, so i went and bought the variax 700 electric and thought it was amazing just plugged straight into my amp but didn`t like having to switch to dif guitars during live play so i ended up buying the hd500 last wk..... what a BIG disappointment, i`ve had nothing but headaches!!.. i cant make the pod control the variax after many Q&A`s on line6 community, no one seems to know the answer(not that i got much help anyway, 2 guys on 2 posts) and apart from that, you`re expected to have a degree in electronics to work it... the amp modeler is good but when you add effects everything becomes harsh on the ears, there is nothing easy about this board and the chat rooms are full of people having probs, an all from brand new gear too... i`m sorry but NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY LINE6 GEAR



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by phil_m on 2012-12-06 07:00:31

Based on your other posts, it sounds like the problem could be with the Variax jack or something like that.

Have you opened up a support ticket about your issue? http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html">http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html">http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by hurghanico on 2012-12-06 08:01:46

Forums like this are precisely to help those who are having problems, and also to exchange tips for optimum use ..

therefore it is obvious that there are many people who post their problems here ..
I'm sure there are also many people who are just fine with the products listed here and do not care at all to attend the forums..

you bought a second-hand variax, and probably you have been unfortunate to catch a defective/broken one.. that's not a Line6 fault..

regarding the HD500 to get the most from this device you need to learn how to best use it, and it isn't a 1 day task..

some people in this forum are here (without any obligation, but only out of kindness) to help, if you ask them..

PS.

do not think anyone feels offended by the shouted phrase: "NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY LINE6 GEAR"

these statements are absolutely useless



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by blueyes on 2012-12-06 09:26:17

thanks for your tip, i`ll try that... i`m sure you can tell that i`m very frustrated but i`ll keep trying for another while to get the best out of my gear before i give up, as i`ve always get stuck into my gear and know it inside out



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by jimsreynolds on 2012-12-06 10:19:21

People do have individual problems/faults with gear but we are not seeing a raft of people here complaining that their Variax and Pod ain't playing nicely together ... usually the opposite.  There may well be a fault in firmware or hardware on your rig that needs sorting.  +1 Phil ... that is now the formal route into Line 6 when the problem cannot be resolved by the community.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Hummelong on 2012-12-06 10:34:42

I too have been playing for over 40 years.  Admittedly I don't have a Variax (I wish I did)  but I own or have owned an AX2-212, Pod, Pod 2.0, Pod XT, Bass Pod Pro, Modulation Modeler, Pod HD400, and DT25.

It is safe to say that Line6 has changed my guitar life completely, both recording and performing.  While I fondly remember my Fender Twin from years ago, my rig today is light years ahead.  Every one of these pieces of gear has required HOURS of learning and tinkering, but generally because of the immense power in these devices.

Definitely worth the effort expended!  Keep trying and I think you will be rewarded.

Mike



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by TheRealZap on 2012-12-06 11:49:57

I'd credit Line6 for providing this community (and it's members) to help you along as well...

lots of guys chiming in here to encourage and help you....

don't get that with every gear company!



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Spiderplayer7 on 2012-12-07 01:54:15

Hi there,

I've been playing now 35 years, used all sorts of gear from basic Tele/Twin setups to PRS/Mesa etc., played with all sorts of bands, at gigs, festivals etc. Now I play in and lead a church worship band, and need at any given time electric sounds, acoustic sounds, very occasionally I play bass guitar - I need XLR outputs to the desk, some effects, the odd amp sim - oh, and a tuner is useful too. So the HD500 is such an all-in-one unit - with my Variax 700 electric and an old Fender J-bass I can do everthing I need and not have to carry around multiple guitars, amps, pedals, tuner etc. So, a couple of observations:

- is the HD500 a plug-and-play solution - no, not at all. With a simple rig, one guitar, a good valve amp, a pedal or two, it's simple to get a good tone fast - not so with the HD500. But even that 'good tone' is a bit subjective - I remember playing at festivals where the requirement was to use the organiser's backline (saves set-up time between bands) - often questionable Marshall stacks with shot valves, microphonic, broken EQ knobs etc. Sure, not a problem with your own gear in a different setting, but you get my point. I've had my HD500 for only 3 weeks now and I've had my frustrations with dialling in a great tone quickly. But then I realised that I'm going to need some time to get that right - it's the nature of the beast, I'm afraid. But then again, look at the flexibility of options you get if you want to delve a bit deeper.

- is the tone of the HD500 as good as a single guitar/valve amp or a great acoustic with a condenser mic - no, I don't think so, but it's about 90% there if you work at it. Anyway, I firmly believe that the audience doesn't care at all what gear the band use or tone they produce as long as they have a good time, engage in the worship or whatever. For me, the HD500/Variax combination is absolutely what I'm looking for for its all-in-one solution to my particular needs - just so easy to carry, transport, set up etc.

If you can get your Variax fixed you'll find you can control the Variax models via the HD500 - this opens up the possibility of almost infinite flexibility over electric and acoustic sounds including altered tunings via Workbench if you use them - all with the tap of a foot switch or two...

I suggest you keep going - my guess is you'll reap the rewards!



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by phil_m on 2012-12-07 06:54:30

I agree with you general take, although, I think I'd maybe increase you 90% to something higher. But it depends on your baseline. I think some people buy an HD500 and a Variax and hope that it will immediately replace their amp/pedalboard/guitar setup and also give them as satisfying an experience. The fact is that is that's a hard experience to replicate. Now if you add a DT amp into the equation, it gets much, much closer, but if people are just using the HD500 direct or with some other monitor setup, from the player perspective, I don't think that will ever be as satisfying as standing in front of a real amp. But if you add some other layer of disconnect between your real amp and you, the gaps closes quickly.

For example, a few weeks ago I was doing some studio work, and I actually brought my trusty Deluxe Reverb and miced it up. But to do the tracking I had to wear headphones. I can't say that what I was hearing out of the headphones was much different than what I would hear from my HD500. I suspect someone could have swapped out my miced amp with the HD500 setup properly and I wouldn't notice much difference if any. I've had the same type of experiences when play with IEM systems live. When you can't actually directly hear or feel the sound coming from your amp, it's hardly a compromise at that point to use the HD500.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by PDKTDK on 2012-12-07 07:30:33

This!

I could never just go with the HD500.  The DT50 and HD500 is amazing.  Very satisying experience.  In my case completely satisfying.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by jimsreynolds on 2012-12-07 07:45:48

Interesting isn't it.  With the HD the conversation is shifting from 'it doesn't sound right' to 'it doesnt feel right'. and yes, the most satisfying experience I get with the HD is into the return of a tube power amp.   Perhaps we should be trying out tube driven stage monitors to see if that fills the gap ... don't think they actually exist, but ...



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by phil_m on 2012-12-07 08:49:10

Well tube-powered wedges do exist. http://www.atomicamps.com/products.htm">http://www.atomicamps.com/products.htm">http://www.atomicamps.com/products.htm

I don't know if anyone is using them to completely replace PA stage monitor, though.

And, actually, regarding the "what you hear" versus "what you feel" difference, I'd say that the HD series is a great improvement on that compared to the earlier PODs. The HD models really are much more responsive and dynamic. A big part of the feeling of playing amp, though, simply comes from the fact that you're physically moving a lot of air . I think that's a big reason why the DT amps help so much. The tube power sections certainly help in giving you that extra punch, too. But I think that combined with a traditional guitar amp form factor really makes the experience pretty much equal to playing a "real" amp.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Brazzy on 2012-12-07 15:20:12

Don't give up. I've been learning how to play guitar and use the HD500 (not with a Variax) for quite a while and it's just staritng to pay off for me privately speaking. I started out with a Toneport GX then went to a UX2 with an inexpensive Strat copy (which I had to learn how to set-up) and a Spider III 15 amp. After getting aquainted with those I went big (IMO) and got the X3 Pro, Spider Jam Amp, and a Spider III 75 Amp in order to make use of the dual tone effects. Working with these things for short spurts of times made it easier for me to build good habits and learn. I'm still learning and am always learning. I figured buying this eqiptment would keep me busy for the rest of my life, lol. Now I have all these peices of eqiptment and possibilities. I'm always trying different configurations just to learn more ways to hook-up. Just recently I been using the Mobile IN piping it into the various inputs on the Spider Jam and WOW it does offer some good tone. Using the EQ,  Rotary, and Flanger #1 after the line 6 clean amp and the clean setting, delay and reverb effect on the Spider Jam I played with that for hours.

I always have to Thank Line 6 for keeping my brain sharp. People around me are really happy with the sounds that come out of their equiptment. I even had a neighbor say they turn their TV off just to listen to me play, all the time, LOL. That was really cool 'cause I always wondered what they thought, subconciously.

Don't give up, keep an open mind and learning will come easier. Be patient when you think you might have a hardware problem and ask someone by way of forum or phone call.

Hummelong said: Every one of these pieces of gear has required HOURS of learning and tinkering, but generally because of the immense power in these devices. Definitely worth the effort expended!  Keep trying and I think you will be rewarded.

AMEN to that!!



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by scottyo78 on 2012-12-07 16:55:37

What about taking it back for warranty exchange?

I don't see in the original post that you bought it used... but further down in this thread, someone else was under the impression it is used.

I've had my HD500 for nearly 2 months and I'm still having a blast playing around with it... changes made primarily via HD Edit... I'm not certified on editing directly on the unit itself yet.

Before the 500, I had a POD XT Live and loved that thing... no problems except for a loose power connection (which I fixed with UV epoxy).



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by wetredbox on 2012-12-07 19:15:18

man, I can certainly see your point.  I mean sometimes i wish I had just kept the 69 es335 that my dad bought me to quite smoking and saved up for a great tube amp, I wish I hadn't wasted so much time trying to sound like the fashion of the day and sold it for a pointy headed super strat.  I also wish I'd never bought anything at all except had put all my money into a Friedman Dirty Shirley and a couple choice pedals.

but that's just not how I roll I guess., I mean I was curious and i gave it a shot.  1.5 years later, almost, I have figured it out, for me.  sounds good all this techno stuff and clicking the pedals gets me options.....but yeah, there's no great old tube amp punching me in the chest with delight. (oh, but there is with my Randall MTS rig that I have the POD running through)  It's complicated and weird and it takes a long time to figure out.  And after all that time it doesn't quite match the response of playing into a tube amp on 6, 7 or 11. 

still though, man it sounds good, but it took a long time to get it that way. 

i wish I had the cash to buy a bunch of amps and effects and switchers and go to town.

I recommend sequestering yourself away for a week, read all you can on this forum and give it that long.  if it sucks after that then sell it, go analog and never look back.  There is no doubt, it can certainly suck for some.  and it can be the bee's knees for others

I know a guy who plays lead in a 3 piece surf band.  he used to lug his old twin to gigs and now runs a peavey modeling amp.  sounds great, not perfect but pretty great and people dance asses off.  the last time I saw them he did have the twin, it was a larger room, and I could hear the difference.  If you're trying to duplicate a sound you already love then it'll do it mostly.  it'll be a pain in the ass getting there.  if that's too much then amps and pedals are the best.  They are the best anyway with money not in the way, and always will be.......but you know this



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Akeron on 2012-12-08 04:00:09

Things are getting really depressing now...



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by whiteop on 2012-12-08 19:51:24

Try having a $1300 amp (DT-50) that has already gone through 2 power transformers in 12 months (one during manufacturer warranty and the other not) and has been sent in for repairs twice because they chose to use cheaper components. I have a 2 year extended warranty I purchased from GC. My fear is that it will keep going through power transformers until I no longer have an extended warranty and I will end up with a wortless 75 lb paperweight. On top of that the direct simulator cab out has a bit of a hum and if you connect it directly to your PA system is very audible. You have to mute the channel or mic the amp (the direct out is transformer tapped). Two bad design flaws for what could have been a very good amp.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by spikey on 2012-12-09 11:21:38

TheRealZap wrote:

I'd credit Line6 for providing this community (and it's members) to help you along as well...

lots of guys chiming in here to encourage and help you....

don't get that with every gear company!

Its nice to see you jump in and help with the DT amp stuff Zap.  You put real efforts in to that... +1 ...

As for others (like Silver and other expert users), they have helped keep the sanity around here for "some" of the crazy things Line 6 has done with regards to the gear. And "they" (the experts) are frustrated on some issues just as we all are, even if its not said here. Yea Im reading into this somewhat, but still I bet im right...

Im getting good tones on some patches now, but its all a strange process sometimes. Its seems to be unlike how a real amp works in order to acheive these good tones, at times... You gotta relearn the Line 6 gear (because it doesnt work the same as what we grew up with), and yes it helps to have an IT background at times, and dont use yer eyes and just yer ears at times, but then again once you do it seems mostly to work out... But for instance..., the tuner only works on one input..., who in their right mind would have EVER thought this was a good idea?.... There are a few more that make me scratch my balding head as to why it was done, the way it was done... Things like this just drive ya nuts (more nuts in my case).... So yep... There are times....



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by spikey on 2012-12-09 11:33:46

You will never get anyone official from Line 6  to admit here, there are issues with the cheap parts or design of said amp. Not gonna happen. And thats not what this place is designed for. Its for helping others figure out their issues with a positive result... That said, I do hope that they fix these design flaws, if they even exist i mean... And BTW, I own 2 of the damn things so I can have an opinion about them...



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by spikey on 2012-12-09 11:50:10

An HD like powered DT wedge (so that your amp points upwards and is in front of you on stage like the QSC K12's for instance) would sell like hotcakes.....!



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by geeker on 2012-12-09 20:29:04

Do the "old" Variaxs work with the HD 500 via cat cable? That might be the issue....Check 2.13 in the advance users manual. http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434dc1a55085c5d6532bf/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Advanced%20Guide%20v2.10%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf  Set the Variax setting to "Variax 500/700. Is it global? I don't know....

As for line 6 stuff....... I've been a user since 1998..... great gear and a great support community!!!! 



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Vrygmaak on 2012-12-10 01:20:14

I hear you, but I've been trying for days to get help with my HD300 drivers without success. I live in South Africa and calling the support centre (Which is the only option Line6 gives me) is not feasable. Who can help me sort out a problem which as far as I can see from the blogs, no one at Line6 seems interested in doing?

Yes I've checked all my cables, yes I'm not plugged into a hub, yes I've tried to download the newest drivers...since I've installed frimware 2.01 on the pedal no computer has been able to pick it up again.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Mr_Arkadin on 2012-12-10 05:25:53

Vrygmaak wrote:

I hear you, but I've been trying for days to get help with my HD300 drivers without success. I live in South Africa and calling the support centre (Which is the only option Line6 gives me) is not feasable. Who can help me sort out a problem which as far as I can see from the blogs, no one at Line6 seems interested in doing?

Yes I've checked all my cables, yes I'm not plugged into a hub, yes I've tried to download the newest drivers...since I've installed frimware 2.01 on the pedal no computer has been able to pick it up again.

You can contact support by creating your own ticket here:

http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html">http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html">http://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html

Plus you can get advice on these forums if you describe your problem, computer system etc. in your own new thread.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Texxxxx on 2012-12-10 06:44:53

I'm still glad that I got involved with Line 6 gear, but it is not my go-to rig, by any means. 

I find that for the live, indie R&R/Pop that I play, one of my Fenders ('66 Super Reverb, '66 Vibrolux Reverb, '75 [blackfaced] Deluxe Reverb, '68 Princeton Reverb, Twin Reverb with 6G16 Vibroverb P2P circuit) with pedals has much more clarity and presence. 

For theater pit orchestra stuff I still prefer one of my three Flextone III's.

Even though my HD Pro is running through a 4x6L6 Mesa Boogie 50/50, I feel it is lacking when I A/B it to my Fenders.  Obviously I am into mostly clean tones and naturally overdriven amps. 

It is cool to play with and use for rehearsal and some recording, and I still use it live if my son and I are playing together...I only have one pedal board for the Fenders...but it's not my first choice. 



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by lforward00 on 2012-12-10 10:49:40

When I first started playing (at home usually with headphones, hobby only), I got a Line 6 toneport UX1 and was very happy with it - major bang for the buck.

Next, I thought I would try moving up in the world a little and bought a Pod HD300. That was one year ago and I am still unable to dial in satisfactory tones. Very disappointed.

I am getting a Zoom G5 for Christmas. We'll see how that goes.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by Leftzilla on 2012-12-11 04:08:59

Yes the VAX700 series does work with the HD500.  I joined an original prog band around 1.5 years ago and set up a lot of HD500 patches to switch between multiple guitar models on a JTV 59.  I had a gig where i lost two strings and had no backup gtr so I dragged my Vax 700 out and set up a backup patch bank specifically for the vax 700 and it worked flawlessly.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by joel_brown on 2012-12-11 06:31:11

I use Line6 gear exclusively and I'm very happy.  It's not like I can't afford what I want and I'm settling.  I use a PODHD through the effect returns of a pair of JCM900s in stereo.  Great tone, sustain, stereo effect, everything.  Was it easy ?  No.  It's not going to hurt you to learn something new.



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by frog51 on 2012-12-11 12:33:22

Well, I've been using A POD X3 Live for over 3 years gigging - festivals, small venues, concert halls etc - running overdriven, distorted, high gain stuff sometimes through Marshalls and sometimes directly DI'ed into the venue sound system.

And it has never let me down. Took me a while to learn, but once I sussed it out all was good.

Bought an HD 500 last month and still in the learning phase, but already it is cleaner, more realistic and sharper.

Awesome piece of kit - wouldn't want anything else for a large festival gig: I can turn up with a couple of guitars and a rucksack and I'm done!



Re: i wish i never got involved with line6 gear...ANYONE FEEL THE SAME?
by kevanprince on 2012-12-11 20:26:14

The only problems I've had with Line 6 stuff is that some of it (namely the HD500 for me) can be so complex that it's really easy to get option paralysis. I might be better off with a 300 or 400 so I have less options to confuse me. However, those options are also the power of the unit. Seems like the 500 can do pretty much anything. Studio, home practice, live, through PA, through amp(s), etc. I don't wish I'd never heard of Line 6 gear...I wish I would spend the time to really master it (not sure if that's really possible though, it honestly seems like more of an art than a science).

On top of that basic "problem" the other problem I have is that messing with tones and such takes me away from what I really need to be working on....learning to play guitar lol. If I was already a good player, I'd be have a BLAST tweaking on these units.




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