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Controlling M9/M13 from an HD500
by anonyrat on 2012-12-10 15:58:29

To save on DSP in the HD500 I have set up my M9 to do the (mainly) delays. So far I have set up 2 folders worth, that is 12 presets (6 + 6)

Because I have a L6 link to the DT-25 (This is using MIDI ch 1) I have set the M9 as MIDI ch 16.

What I am doing at the moment is that footswitch 4 I have set to FXLOOP. Under the MIDI options in HD-Edit I have set FS4 to :-

MIDI ch 16...  Message = Program Change...    Program change=008

The HD-500 is set to Preset Mode

When I select a footswitch in the F5-8 range it selects a preset and lets say it has the above settings. NOTHING changes on the M9.

Pressing the FS4 (Assuming it was saved in the ON position) turns the FXLOOP OFF and changes the M9 to Folder 2 Preset 2A, press FS4 again and the

M9 becomes active in the chain.

The problem with this is when you select a new preset on the HD500 nothing happens on the M9 (in other words the state of the MIDI info attached to FS4 is NOT sent.)

If I set the M9 to MIDI ch 1 or OMNI then FS5  would select the first preset in the M9, FS6 would select the next and so on. To me this is dumb...

The M9 has 4x6 (24) presets the HD500 has 64. Let us say that the M9 preset 1 is a slapback delay That you want on the first 4 HD presets can't do it.

I tried setting the FS5 to :-

MIDI ch 16...  Message = Program Change...    Program change=008 (with the M9 set to MIDI ch 16)

Didn't work.

Question: Is there any way to get this to work? It says in the doco that the HD500 can be used to control M9/M13 Amps etc (even got a video) but moving sequentially through MIDI presets is NOT a MIDI controller!



Re: Controlling M9/M13 from an HD500
by jimsreynolds on 2012-12-10 16:15:24

From what I recall:  any CCs that you have assigned to footswitches within a preset get sent when you select that preset.  However, the PC message is always hard coded to the preset number and cannot be mapped onto another message.  Assignment of PC messages to footpedals do not get sent either. 

If the M9 responds only to Midi PC messages then the only way to get that automatic change of patch on the M9 when you select an HD500 patch is to assign patches directly one for one...  sequentially as you say.

i.e.

HD Patch 1 = M9 Patch 1

HD Patch 2 = M9 Patch 2

.

.

HD Patch 64 = M9 Patch 64

I can see how this behaviour could be irritating but there could be other issues if all Footswitch-assigned PC messages were sent also.  e.g. my Marshall JVM responds to Midi PC messages to I have a footswitch assignment to send a MIDI PC message to the amp to turn to the second master channel.  If this were sent when the preset was loaded then I would be sunk.

No idea if there is a separate device that might allow you to do the midi mapping external to the two devices ...



Re: Controlling M9/M13 from an HD500
by anonyrat on 2012-12-10 17:59:48

Thanks for the reply.

Actually you probably wouldn't be sunk as that is the beauty of MIDI - it has 16 channels. If the HD500 outputs PC on the base channel, which your amp is picking up then why cannot it send a PC on ch 16 as well?  L6 missed a trick there...everything is in place.



Re: Controlling M9/M13 from an HD500
by jimsreynolds on 2012-12-11 02:54:54

I guess the bottom line is that the HD500 can act as a basic Midi controller but it does not have the full range of features as a dedicated Midi controller device.

If it is anything to go by, I have to adopt the sequential approach for my amp also, with channel changes aligned to HD Presets. 



Re: Controlling M9/M13 from an HD500
by jimsreynolds on 2012-12-12 00:57:14

Although check this thread also..  http://uk.line6.com/support/thread/89945?tstart=0

Behaviourseems different.




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