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Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by Maiden_my_guide on 2012-12-19 12:00:00

Hi Folks,

I've been searching the net but no success.

I've got a HD500 already was looking to get a DT25/50 soon.

Lots of people have DT25's it seems but no one talks about the top end volume of them.

I'm looking to gig with it in a rock band, but dont want to commit to an amp too quiet.

I like the idea of low power mode for home use as well.

I've got a spider valve HD100 mk2 which is insanely loud and normally dont get the master turned up very far.

Thanks for any help.

If the DT25 is too quiet I guess I'll have to save for the DT50 head.

P.S It'll be running through a 4x12 with vintage 30's in



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by spaceatl on 2012-12-19 16:01:43

Have both amps...I rehearse with my DT25, but it's underpowered for my taste...You notice this more on the clean tones than anything else...For me, it is right on the edge as I have used it with several different bands I play with and it works...jsut the clean tones get a bit too driven...I gig with with both amps or the DT50 alone...for the clean tone more than anything else...



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by Kupsik on 2012-12-20 01:27:53

I use DT25 head with one cab in cover band. I play lead guitar,  others play rhythm guitar, acoustic guitar, keyboard, bass and drums. I don't have problem with volume on stage. I think it really depends on what "role" do you have in your band but I think if you all go to FOH desk and use DT as "stage monitor" you should be ok even when other are really loud.



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by geppert on 2012-12-20 10:23:03

I have a DT25 head/cab. The little blues band I play in can get the volume "up there" but certainly not "metal loud". I would say the amp alone (at least for me) is clearly challenged for volume on the ultra clean Fender setting. That would be NFL 1 plus the dial recipie for "Classic American Clean". There is not much usable "band volume there" at all which I found surprising. The NFL 4 plus dial recipie for "Modern Hi-Gain" has significanlty more usable level if you like that much crunch? My solution for the clean stuff is to push the front end level via the HD500. With some gain staging voodo I can get enough "clean volume" that way out of the DT25. So I would say from my experience (since you have a HD500) that you might be able to get what you need with the DT25? It is a sweet little bugger (technical term) of an amp for sure.

PS: I do yearn for another DT25 cab. I can't to the "Power lifting" required for the 2x or 4x cabs. I would think the DT25 head through your 4 x 12 cab would be nice?

PPSS: I have a SV MKII 2 x 12  and yes, it is killer loud similar to yours. I have sometimes used the SV212 as an additional 2 x 12 cab for my DT25 and it is nice but I have come to prefer the closed back single 12 cab for what I do.

Hope this brings some perspective for you? Another option is to buy a DT25 from a dealer with a 30 day return policy and just give it a try. If you're not satisfied, updrade to the DT50.



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by Maiden_my_guide on 2012-12-20 10:51:29

So basically POD owners can push the DT25 a little harder?

As I said, it is rock/metal that i primarily play. On the POD i use twin heads (ENGL/TREAD) so its pretty heavy i guess (think 80's metal/glam).

Do you think the 4x12 will help the volume at all?

Thanks for the thoughts so far. It's nice hearing players opinions rather than reviews.



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by geppert on 2012-12-20 12:54:56

Yes POD HD owners can push the DT25 harder. At least that is my experience.

If you're looking for loud crunched tone the DT25 "might" deliver it on the volume side of the fence? No doubt the DT50 will. I don't use those heavy crunch tones so I am surmising. Spaceati really knows about this stuff.

I think your 4 x 12 cab will help with this but in the end you'll need to be the judge of that.

The bonus with the DT amps is their integration with the POD HD's espcecially the 500. You have a big leg up by having one. Like everything else in this arena there is a learning curve to figuring out what will work best for you.

Again, I reiterate, if you buy from a vendor who offers a 30 day trial policy, you can get one (DT25) and see if it works for your needs. Personally, I like the DT25.

Also to mention, I don't work/play in any enviroments that have access to "appropriate sound reinforcement" to enhance the band. We work under the premise that the band on the stage must produce the appropriate sound canvas on their own. Any PA that we use is just for vocals. Some today might consider this a "foreign concept" but that's how it is for me. I don't mind. It's how I grew up playing music.

Everyone of us sees, hears, and tastes the world differently, so opinions, although free, will be very varied. I think you are heading in a postiive direction to consider a DT amp especially as a compliment to your POD 500.



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by Maiden_my_guide on 2012-12-21 03:40:10

Thanks for the comments.

I think I'm going to get a DT50 head as its the safer bet for what i want to do which is gigging.

I'm not interested in playing at home with it since I DI my HD500 straight into my pc.

I'll let you know when i get it (this year since they have £100 discount in the UK).



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by geppert on 2012-12-21 10:11:50

Yup, considering your circumstance ... a DT50 would be safer bet for sure. Do let us know how you like it once you have had time to get used to it. The L6 Link connectivity is very cool.



Re: Is a DT25 head loud enough to gig in a full band?
by Maiden_my_guide on 2012-12-21 12:51:58

Well I ordered a DT50 head!

I'll feedback in time.

With shopping around online, the cashback and loyalty points I paid £819 which I think is a good price.

Can't wait to explore all the options now. I'm interested to hear it on its own and with my TS9 plugged in. It sounds great in the videos.

I'm aware about switching my hd500 presets to the preamp models and the steep learning curve but it is all very exciting to me.

Thanks again!




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