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Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by player99 on 2013-01-20 16:13:23

Anyone experienceing this? When I lightly move the trem arm, it makes a noise. Even just moving my fingers on the trem arm makes noises that are louder than the strings.

Also the low e string sounds dull and thud like. No snap light the other strings.



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by davidb7170 on 2013-01-20 19:59:40

I have a 69S -- got it last October. I assume yours is a new one -- the trem assembly was redesigned about a year and a half ago. I noticed the mechanical noise also, but it was just that the arm, when screwed in still has some movement --  some wobble in the holder. I used one of the hex wrenches included with the guitar to tighten the screw on the base of the the holder -- didn't tighten it way down, just enough to take the play out of it. It took the wobble away, and the arm no longer causes the noise. The piezo pickups for the Variax models are on the bridge, so also pick up any mechanical noise that happens at the bridge. I do not use the tremolo arm in my playing (I remove the arm) so I do not have a feel for what others experience. In the few times I've messed with it, it did not cause any noise problems once I adjusted the set screw.

On the low e sounding dull -- it depends on the variax electronic model you're using -- some are brighter than others on the bass strings. It can also be the strings need changing. That's usually the first thing I do whenever I get a new guitar, as you never know how long they've been on there, and I have my favorite strings I use on all my electrics. In the case of the 69S, I actually left the strings on it for a while and used them out live for about a month as they were in good shape, so I just left them. This is my 2nd JTV, my first is a 59, and I remember changing those strings right away... Usually when you change guages or even brands of strings in the same guage, you'll need to tweek the intonation a bit. Also will need to if you change your height set up, etc.

One other note -- if you change your strings on the 69, I recommend you don't take them all off at once. The internal trem springs will pull the bridge away from the 2 posts on the top of the guitar and snap it back against the body (with a POP). I didn't like that. I read about it on these forums, and also experienced it a few times when I changed the pickups and couldn't avoid taking the strings all off. It was a booger to get back on right -- felt like I needed a 3rd hand. I found that I needed the trem arm to hold the bridge down until I had 2 strings in and the tension on them before they would hold the bridge in place. One way would be to remove & replace one string at a time, or if you want to oil the fretboard, leave the 2 outside strings (high e & low e) on, then replace those 2 last.

Anyway that's my experience with it.... YMMV

Dave



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by player99 on 2013-01-21 16:24:21

There is no wobble in the arm...Even rolling the end in my fingers causes extreamly loud noise.

This is a JTV 69, as this is the JTV forum, and the 69 is the only one with a trem...

Strings are new.

Thanks for the tips, but nothing will help what I am experiencing.

R



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by snhirsch on 2013-01-22 04:33:52

Turn the guitar over and remove the plate that covers the tremolo strings.  Take a very close look to see if the wiring or any other part of the mechanism is scraping against the sides of the routed cavity. 



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by player99 on 2013-01-22 10:49:09

OK, but if I lightly rub my fingers on the trem arm without moving the trem AT ALL, zero movement, it sounds like my fingers are rubbing the windscreen on a microphone.



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by snhirsch on 2013-01-22 13:29:49

That suggests you have something very wrong in the bridge itself and/or the piezo pickups.  Either way, I would suggest you open a support ticket with Line-6. 



Re: Mechanical Noise From 69 Tremolo
by player99 on 2013-01-28 16:19:45

I gave up...returned guitar for a refund. Maybe the next time L6 will get the thing right, but the hassles and problems are not worth the bother for me. I have my cash, and no more headaches.




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