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Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by TommyBBF on 2013-01-20 19:24:42

Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop. Many patch are made for 500 but for the desktop version is very poor. I think is the same brain into the 2 models. Then I don't know why I can't play with patch all the family of the pod HD.



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by BigChas52 on 2013-01-20 19:37:33

You can ue the HS500 patches with the HD.  You'll need to install HD500 edit first.  Open each patch in HD500 edit, and change any input options (like Variax) that aren't available on the HD.  The patches can then be used in the HD.



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by TheRealZap on 2013-01-21 04:10:00

the 300/400 are completely different animals...

the 500/pro and desktop can share tones with a little bit of effort.

this utility can help: http://www.jzab.de/content/pod-hd

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Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by kdog on 2013-01-21 11:40:11

It is cool that there are workarounds and it is much appreciated that people are willing to come up with them and contribute them here, but, to be honest, as a long time pod 2.0 and XT user who just recently upgraded to the HD desktop, I am surprised and disappointed that Line 6 has not taken ownership of making auto import work across compatible devices.

The internal hardware and firmware of the desktop, 500, and pro units are virtually identical and it is absurd that there are three separate editors and a convoluted import process given the value that a seamless import capability would provide to their customers. The 2.0 and XT lines both supported auto import of patches and a unified editor for related hardware and it is disconcerting that Line 6 has not addressed this given that these are no longer newly introduced products and are the mature core of their modeling technology.

In fact, overall, my first impression of the HD is that the editor/software and firmware are actually not nearly as well thought out or "finished" feeling as the XT was even though the units are up to a 2.x revision... aside from the pretty UI graphics, the entire thing feels like a beta/unfinished product and does not meet the standard Line 6 has set for itself in previous products, which is incredibly disappointing for a long time fan/customer.

So, really, IMHO, the poster's original question of "why" it is like this, and more importantly, if it will always be like this, should be addressed by L6 since they have clearly overcome this limitation on their legacy units and they are no longer meeting that level of capability with the HD.



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by Ed_Saxman on 2013-01-21 12:24:08

Just change the file extension. No converter needed for Pod HD desktop/500/Pro patches or setlists. Not tried with entire bundles but it´s probably the same.



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by TheRealZap on 2013-01-21 12:36:03

Ed_Saxman wrote:

Just change the file extension. No converter needed for Pod HD desktop/500/Pro patches or setlists. Not tried with entire bundles but it´s probably the same.

not entirely correct...

if you import a tone from the pro that uses the variax input for exampe that doesn't exist on the desktop... you might find your pod stuck in a reboot loop....

however, not always the case and you can get away with it....

you can also simply drag and drop into the location you wish to save the tone without changing the file extension and it will work... but the same potential issue i noted above.

***and possibly other issues, after an update or a change here and there...

the tool changes the tones to avoid this...



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by Ed_Saxman on 2013-01-21 12:54:47

TheRealZap wrote:

if you import a tone from the pro that uses the variax input for exampe that doesn't exist on the desktop... you might find your pod stuck in a reboot loop....

***and possibly other issues, after an update or a change here and there...

the tool changes the tones to avoid this...

Ok then. Fortunately never happened to me so far, but... certainly, shit happens everytime and everywhere across the entire universe, so forget my comment and better use that tool, Tommy.



Re: Why I can't use patch from 500 400 ? I own Pod hd desktop
by joel_brown on 2013-01-22 06:42:55

It happened to me almost everytime.  Guess you were lucky or I wasn't.




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