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How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by deidelberg on 2013-01-28 13:33:50

I acquired a barely touched Variax 600 this year and ended up buying a barely touched Variax 700 electric in order to get the usb interface (worth it...).  Both guitars have sat most of their lives.  Both worked fine when I first got them.  I updated the software, made a few custom patches on workbench, and then the d string on the 700 started having problems (didn't play them really before the update or tweaking) and then the low e on the 600.  I'm mainly working with the 700.  When it acts up (either low volume, no volume, or crackling distortion etc...) I can tap the piezo and it will work again until it does it again.

Again, these guitars have barely been used.  They are in extremely clean, unabused, condition.  There has been no trauma to the guitars.  The prior owners had no issues with them. 

Are the piezos themselves just crapping out for no reason?  Is this normal?  Have you experienced this?  Can non-use be an issue?

Any thoughts or suggestions?  I wish I played with them a lot more before updating the software as I cannot eliminate that as the cause.

Thanks



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-01-29 00:48:34

Hey buddy, I just got a 600 not even a month ago from ebay and I had this exact problem with my D string.

It scares, THE ****, out of me when it happens. Sorry to be vulgar, but I need to express myself here.

But anyways, it scares me, makes me stomach turn really bad when it happens, since I just spent money I never get on what I wanted to be my halfway dream guitar, and it's already messing up on me.

I've seen threads about people complaining about this problem, and the solution is to either clean the piezo with contact cleaner (I'm not sure where exactly, I guess the whole physical part when you pop it out of the saddle a little bit?) because the piezos can sometimes have grounding problems.

I'm really REALLY hoping that's the more common reason, and that our piezos are just dying.

If your piezo is dying, You can contact LR baggs and they'll mail you a new one for $15 plus shipping, After that, you have to remove the bridge and then desolder the old piezo and then solder the new piezo in. Line 6 says it's suggested that you let one of their authorized repair shops do it, but that'll cost even more, so if you know how to solder, then do it yourself.

My personal experience:

For right now, my piezo has stopped malfunctioning, as it mostly did it when I used the tremelo, so I removed it for now until I can find a solution. I basically messed with it via tapping the piezo and moving the wire under it's saddle until it stopped.

Anyways I wish you luck, cause I can definitely sympathize with you.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by haule on 2013-01-29 08:09:24

Hi, I have had problems with low E-string piezo (variax700), it started buzzing(distorted) without any reason and the volume went also very weak.The problem went away and came back again so I sent it back to retailer and they sent it to factory. It came back from the factory and they found nothing wrong with it, tested several hours. I found out that the buzz goes away when I tap the tremolo (bridge) a bit. I just hope that I would have read this forum before sending it to retailer! It was sent from europe to China and back for nothing lol. At least they could have changed the piezo... Lots of variax owners seem to have same kind of problems! It's a bit frustating and I wouldnt use my variax at a gig without changing the piezo! Hope you get yours working!



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-02 07:38:13

in most cases  its   either  a grounding  issue  or   a bad  solder joint  on the pcb  board  under the  tremelo.  or bridge  plate. in some cases   the piezo just goes  bad.

a perminant  fix  is to replace  the pickups  with  graphtech  pickups.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-03 04:46:59

Thank you a bunch.

Can you tell me how the piezos ground though? Just by contact against the bridge?
Like I said, someone said to clean the piezo because of grounding issues so I'm assuming that's how it does grounding, because the piezo's wire just has a signal wire, not a ground wire too.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-03 06:16:42

exactly..  and its a poor  system  they have the pickup contact grounding to the saddle   and the saddle  grounding to the bridge  plate.   and the bridge  plate  to the  main board  through the  harness.    the 300  has a actual  wire  harness  .  the other  3  have a ribbon cable. so  the 300  is best in that respect.

alot  of the  pickups   get stuff between them and  the  saddle  and loose  ground..

the  graphtech pickups  have an actual ground  wire.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-03 06:18:17

what i did  with mine to keep them  working  was to  spray contact  cleaner  all round the  edges  of the  pickup.  but that only lasts  so long.  thats why i went  with the  graph techs.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-04 08:38:51

I'm hoping that's what mine has. I really can't afford to get mine repaired, because I JUST blew all my money buying it in the first place!!

Mine started doing it during intonation adjustment, so I'm assuming it's either a grounding issue or soldering issue. I assume if it was a soldering issue it would cut out completely instead of quieting/being noisy though.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-04 08:44:40

back up that saddle  to take  tension off the  connecting  wire.    they dont leave you much  so if  your  at its  full length   the  intonation ajustment  may just be pulling  on a poor  solder   joint.  if  it starts  working  right  then id    resolder  that  joint  on the pcb under the bridge.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-05 10:06:43

It first started when I did back it up. I tapped the piezo and it stopped, then the next day it came back and I pushed the wire back into the bridge and it stopped. It came back once again and I did some tapping and moving of the wire, and it mostly started doing it even more when I used the tremelo.

This is a 600 version by the way, so would it also have the ribbon PCB thing on the back onf the bridge?

Like I said, it doesn't cut out completely, but gets very quiet compared to the other strings, and makes a lot of noise.

So far I removed my tremelo, in fear of it cutting out again. I used some rubbing alcohol on the front of the piezo one day and wiped it dry. I also changed strings and it didn't start cutting out either (It cutted out when I detuned that string which is the D string). So far it's good, but I'm still really uncomfortable with using the tremelo so I don't. I don't think I'll try anything risky until I can either afford a solder kit, better contact cleaner, or a whole new piezo from LR Baggs.

I want to thank you for your posts though, because it helps me realize my situation isn't THAT deadly as I thought. It really made my stomach twist to discover my brand new guitar might be crapping out on me.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-15 12:45:02

Hi. So I changed strings yesterday, and I tested the tremelo again and it started cutting out again.

I'm officially using it as a hardtail until I can fix the problem.

I noticed that the PCB board for the solder joints of the peizo is on the tremelo block. The D string piezo lies right above the connector that connects the motherboard of the Variax to the PCB for the piezo elements.

Is it safe to assume I probably have a solder problem if it keeps going out when using the tremelo?

I had to tap it a bit again and tap the wire to get it to stop cutting out.

Do you think a Line 6 authorized repair shop could fix it for me?



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-15 13:25:57

sounds  like that is  what it  is.   either that  or the  sticky tape in between   is  drying out  an  when you use the tremelo the    pcb is moving  slightly  causing a groundin  situation.    yes  i think if you could  get it to a l6 service  shop they  might  fix it  for  you. otoh if you  can sloder at all and this is the case  then its a matter  of  just rheating the solder  joint  and letting  it cool.  but another  problem is  that   if the wire  at the pickup itself  is pulling  out  youll get the  same  situation.     so  if your  not  sure   of  what your doing id   suggest  you contact  line  6 about  repairs.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-16 11:50:01

I've messed and fixed random electroncis since I was a kid, but for a 500 guitar I'm a bit nervous.

I know I have to take out the bridge, but unless the tremolo block is connected to it, I'm afraid of pulling the piezo wires.

Also, I'm starting to think maybe it is a grounding issue instead. Wouldn't the sound COMPLETELY cut out if it was a wire problem? If the wire to the piezo is being disconnected on and off, then it shouldn't send any signal.

I might try to purchase contact cleaner first.

After that, I'd probably purchase a piezo element, even if it's not the problem (I want a backup if one ever really dies) and either disassemble it myself or take it to the shop and tell them about it so they can fix it.

I want to thank you for your posts though, they are very informative and is nice to know that it's repairable.

Edit: The piezo seems to be back to messing up a lot, I guess I knocked it out of a sweet spot when I used the tremelo again, because it was working fine for almost a month. Here's to hoping I find jiggle it back to a more stable spot again.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-16 13:35:37

on the  300  theres a screw  that connects  the pcb to the bridge  plate  for ground    on a tremolo model  i  am pretty sure  its  just stuck on the trem block with  double sided  sticky tape  as  others here have  reported  and is  grounded  through the ribbon wire  connector.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-16 16:49:41

Ugh really now. That sounds extremely cheap of them.

Well it started acting up yet again (of course...) and I got sick of it and tried to apply Isopropyl rubbing alcohol between the piezo and the bridge.

Did absolutely nothing.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-17 11:32:58

Evidence seems to slowly, slowly be pointing towards a bad piezo elements. I really don't know, but the fact that I tapping the piezo mostly fixes the problem leads to me thinking that.

I'm going to buy an element from LR Baggs, regardless of if it's the problem or not so I can at least have a backup.

It's really frustrating when it's hard to troubleshoot.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-25 16:32:04

Ordered an X insert from LR baggs. They said it's a little different, hopefully not too much or I might have to eventually replace all the piezos (I don't have money for that).

The guy says I can adjust string volume in workbench, but I don't think I can do that can I? I only saw output adjustment but not string volume adjustment.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 04:43:16

there  one in the same . hes just putting it  in his  words.    string output   and  string  volume  mean the same thing and  there   individually ajustable  with  work bench.

wheni put the  graph tech pickups  in my 300  i had to do this  because the person who  had  owned  the guitar before  me    had apparently been  compensating   for   failing  pickups.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 08:36:20

The x inserts are the same? He said something about Line 6 doing something to mass produce their piezo elements.

I have a feeling it will be barely different anyway.

How do I individually adjust each string level? I can't find it in workbench.

Edit: Ohhh I think I see it. String volumes on guitar?

Oh man thank god, if it is different then I really can adjust the volumes.

The guy on the phone was really informative and seemed to know a lot about the variax stuff.

I really thought the string volume thing was limited to other Variaxes, like the bass model.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 08:47:06

youll have to read  the  instructions  i havent  used  workbench in quite a  while  and its  not even on my current  computer.   but  i did  have to do this   so  its somewhere  inthe  program  try going through the drop down menus  one at a time.  i would guess that it  would be in the same  area that allows  pickup osition movement.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 08:50:15

It was hiding in the menu for Editor.

+ Points for Line 6. I could honestly just boost my crappy piezo element when it gets quiet, but it always cuts in and out.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 09:15:58

well  again the cutting  out is  either  a break in ground  or  like  mine   the wire  right in the back of the pickup had been pulled  some what loose. or  in another  case a poor  solder  joint

if its  ground  they ground  throughthe  chromed  case to the saddle they sit  in to the  bridge  plate  all contact grounds   based  on  string  tension.  yes  a poor system. the fix icame up for this way back was contact cleaner  sprayed  around the pickup while  in the saddle.   mythoughts  were   like  myself  alot of people  sometimes  rest  the  side  of there  hand  on the bridge  when playing  and the  natural oils  and  whatever  else  may be  on  your  hands  could  get in the  gap between    the pickup and sadle  eventually breaking  ground.   this  fix  worked  for alot  of people. as to the pulled  out  wire   your  guitar i believe  is a 700 with tremelo so it  most likely doesnt  apply to you  but   in the  300 ..any strings   being  removed   or   put on the guitar  have to go through  the cavity  below the  bridge  plate  from the backof the guitar    then through the pcb board  itself  ( that was ral genious  on line  6  part now  wasnt  it.) then  through the  holes  in the bridge  plate.  now  the screw  holding the pcb in place    does tend to losen  over  time.. 1) cousing the  pcb to get misaligned  and  also allowing  ore tension on the tiny pickup wire.  2) posssibly allowing the end ot the  string  being  either  removed  or   put in to the guitar  to possibly pullon the pickup   wires.. also loosening the ground   fpr the pcb which is     a circular contact the  screw  goes  through. again this is  not the case with the  700   as much  like any fender  style   tremelo guitar  the strings  go through  the tone block on the bottomof the trem plate.. i am however thinking    the  wire still could be   just hanging on to the back of your  pickup or the first  issue  i pointed  out  here.     i had tried to  fix the wire on the backof  one  of my pickups  its  virtually impossible  as its all encased  in some   composite   that  seals the pickup. i know  money is tight   but again i suggest you give some thought  to   graphtech pickups.   for one thing  .. they have a ground  wire.vs  that   system  lr baggs  uses   . yeah there  around 100 bucks  us  but .  i can tell you that is the  price  of being  trouble free in that area  of your  guitar.

  why is  line  6  still using    lrbaggs  pickups  if the  graph tech ones are  so much better? my guess would be    contract obligations.  maybe  a better  volume   price from lr baggs.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 09:38:46

I have a 600. Same thing but with a Strat body/interface and maple neck.

I doubt the ground wire going to the bridge is the problem, or else wouldn't all the pickups cut out? I used rubbing alcohol to try to clean the piezo and bridge, but that's a poor substitute for contact cleaner. You're correct about people laying their hands on the bridge though. I sometimes use it as a reference point when picking, and palm muting sometimes leads to contact with the bridge.

I could maybe put some tape over the bridge to avoid sweat getting in it, but that might mute up the pickups, I'm not sure.

I'm sure it is a grounding issue though. Like I said, if the signal wire of the pickup was the problem, the signal would cut out, not get quiet, I'm sure.

For the graph tech, I agree that it's a good idea, but I don't have a job, and I'm lucky to even have this guitar, so right now the best I can do is the LR baggs pickups.

When I use a tremelo, that's it cuts out a WHOLE lot. Also when I tune down the string, it likes to cut out. I think the string's tension is securing the contact of the piezo and the bridge, but it also likes to cut out when I push down on the piezo a tiny bit hard.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 12:11:01

true. i was just pointing out that  on my 300 where  the  pcb was grounded  is   where the screw  holding the  pcb board in place  is.  as to the rubbing  alcohol.  yes that would  break up anything  in there  but it does  nothing to get anything   out. the contact  cleaner  is under  pressure and will blow out anything  that is  in there.  btw  when  and if you do replace  that pickup  youll notice theres a small spring  under  it.   well  at least my 300 had them   so there  supposed  to be somewhat floating  in the  saddle. if they dont  move a  little bit in the saddle thats a god indication to me that  there   is  some  stuff  in there.

the  problem with the  tape  is   the  glue will deteriorate  and end  up in there  as well making  matters  worse. well thats   what i was  having trouble  with and   found  one  pickup hanging  on by one  of the  braded wires  at the pickup end  and another  loose  on a solder  joint. at that point  and taking  into the  consideration  fo how the  strings  went   right through the pcb  on mine i decided  graphtech was the way to go.   and  never  regretted   the decision. in my case  i also  gave an idea to rich renkin  about  tube  guides  for the  hard tail versions   of the  variax   so people  wouldnt  be   pulling  wires  loose.  dont  know  if they ever  used  it though .  that was during  the  lengthy discussions  on the   future  of   the variax  and the  upcoming  next gen guitars..

  from your  last parragraph    i would think that when you push the tremelo down your  decreasing  tension   thus   giving  the pickup a chance to loose  what little  ground  it  has tuning  down does the  same. but... pushing  down  onthe  piezo  should   make it  ground  better  not  worse    so  i would   again  look at the  back of  it.   remember    if the  wire  is coming  loose  there  or is  partially  broken . you  have  exposed   hot  wire   and  in this case  as you describe  it.   ...by pushing  down you could be causing  it to  short  out  to the  saddle.

  as to your being  out  of  work.. im sorry to hear that  ive been out of  work going  on 8 months  now  my self   so i know  how you feel.  im not  spending a penny i dont  have  to .  so best of luck on that as well..       keep the graphtechs  in mind  for the  future  then.   i wouldnt  do a thing  until  you get the new  pickup in  .



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 13:21:52

Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.

For now, my sister is helping me with expenses for fixing my guitar.

For the cutting out, the grounding might just be really horrendous. I'm not really sure exactly where it grounds, maybe the back and sides of the piezo? Pushing it down might be causing what little ground connection to also go out.

When I used rubbing alcohol, I used a qtip, but I probably didn't do it as thoroughly as I should have.

It's really annoying because the thing that connects the PCB to the Variax motherboard is blocking the exact place leading to the piezo.

As for shorting out the piezo, I have done so by using a hex key wrench, and it completely cuts out the signal instead of quieting it down, so I don't think pushing it down is shorting it out. Like I said, the ground connection must be really awful on that pickup.

I'll probably attempt the graphtech saddles in the future when I have an income, but for now I'm going to just try to repair the pickup. The graphtech saddles look really nice and nicely built. I like how the piezo is built into the saddle instead of a seperate piece.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 13:36:15

when you do get around to taking  the old  pickup out  what you will  have in your  hand  is a chrome plated  rectangle  can with  the actual element  enclosed   within  a composite. /   and only one  wire  coming  out of the composite. thats all there  is  to it. and the element is  in there  pretty deep . how i  know this  is  i tryed  to get enough  wire end  exposde  to resolder  the  one that was  hanging  on by one  of the strands.. as i said  graphtechs  have two wires.    so your not  depending  on any  pressure  contact  to maintain ground. 



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 14:05:11

Yeah. Not to shun LR baggs, but that was a bad idea for the grounding. Totally should have made it wired, not contact.

Question, do the Graphtech ghost saddles treat divebombing better than the LR baggs? I noticed some guy mention that it cuts out if you divebomb super hard, and I tried it myself and he's right. It's from the strings moving away off the piezo pickups when slanted down. Any better on the Graphtech stuff?



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 14:40:43

i couldnt tell you  on the variax  as mine  was a hard  tail.  what i hear  from everyone   on this  site   after  having   installed  them..  id say  it all equated  to massive  improvement. 

  if you look   around   onthis  site  youl  find   alot  of stuff  on that subject

http://line6.com/search/?cx=018225845393761871946%3Apgopyvt_eve&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=graph&sa.x=0&sa.y=0http://">http://">http://line6.com/search/?cx=018225845393761871946%3Apgopyvt_eve&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=graph&sa.x=0&sa.y=0http://

should be   enough  stuff  on this page  to  tell you something    about  what  people  think



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-26 14:44:20

btw.. if you decide  to  do this  down the  road  you need to   get the ones  for  import  strat.   thats  what works  on  the variax.    otherwise  your  saddles  will have the wrong offset.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-26 22:05:19

Right, right. Yeah, all old Variaxes use Strat saddles. I've seen some people install tune-o-matic bridges and piezos on these forums though, pretty cool.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-27 05:12:10

yeah  not  as  many as you may  think though.and   more difficult  than the graphtech to put in. plus   as i recall that  tom bridge from  baggs  is  alot ore than  the graphtechs.    then add to that  a bigsby tremelo. or god forbid  a lyre  or a floyd  rose  which  are  more than the bigsby. well  its im thinking  a 300 dollar  situation and  it involves   drilling  for the  tom bridge  and tail piece  at the least  for  the bigsby   well its alignment  and a few  screws   the  lyre  or maestro which is the same      is also alignment  and  4 screws  and getting that cover  on it  is  a pain in the neck ... i put one on my sg.  and if you gothe  floyd  rose  route... well that involves  routing. 

in short  this is most likely  in the v1 versions  they went  with   the  hard  tail  fender  type bridge to begin with   eventually offering  a tremelo on the 6 and 700.

btw   the  variax  saddle  is   based  on the  newer  cast strat saddles. and are  nothing at all like the old   stamped  strat saddles  which i prefer.. but the  ones  in the  variax  are  unique to lr baggs   necescity to hold there  pickup.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-02-27 06:12:27

I'm not getting a tune-o-matic, but I just thought it was cool. I like how you can adjust the action individually for each string on a fender-esque bridge anyways.

The saddles on the Variax are coated. My D string saddle has a really small chip in it and inside is a copper-looking material. I suppose it's to make it blend in with the bridge.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-02-27 07:02:09

the  material the  can is  mad  of is a copper   stamping  and is  chrome  plated. there is defenitly more  range  of  ajustment  inthe fender  style  bridge.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-03-15 04:19:30

Hey AMX, do you think inserting a conductive wire between the piezo's side and the bridge would help ground conductivity?

Hopefully that would clog any gap between the bridge and the piezo so it grounds correctly.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-03-15 05:03:17

well  it probably would  but  since the  pickup is supposed  to  have a small spring  under it     im im guessing  its  supposed to   be slightly loose  in there  which really makes  no sense..  so id  say give it  a try .  not  much to lose at this point   if your planning  on replacing it  anyway.. just leave it a bit long  so you can get it  out if  it doesnt work.  but i dont see  why it   wouldnt  if its a ground  issue.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by clay-man on 2013-03-15 07:38:59

they probably wanted it snug against the string for best contact.



Re: How Many Have Had Piezo Elements in Variax 300-700 Fail for No Apparent Reason?
by amx05462 on 2013-03-15 09:51:42

exactly right     thats  why i think it  might be an exposed  wire  in   this  other case    creating  a short.    i would think the  exposed  wire  would  be   on the bottom of the pickup and  not  at the pcb end




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