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L3s Overheating
by Gazeebo on 2013-03-01 08:23:43

hello, i recently purchased a Stagesource system.

Last night i was djing a small event with two L3m's and one L3s. Muisc was a mixture of 70's and 80's.

After about 3 hours i noticed a popping sound coming from the sub. It sounded like the amp was overheating but the speaker was running

at a little less then half volume and the dj mixer was sending a very moderate signal. So i didn't feel like the speaker was being overdriven,

there just wasn't enough volume. I trimmed the gain on the speaker down a little bit and the popping sound lessened but obviously this

creates a bit of a problem for me.

What would cause the L3s to overheat and react this way?

And what can i do to prevent this from happening again?

thanks for your help!

Jon



Re: L3s Overheating
by dboomer on 2013-03-01 10:29:22

Hi Jon

It's hard to answer a question like this without being able to see everything in the system.

First I'd say the "overheating" does not produce any change in the sound.  The systems are self protected and in the case of overheating they would perform up until the time that the system would judt shut down to protect itself from damage.  Can you ever hear the fan operate in the main panel?  If so I don't think this is the problem.

Overdriving the system won't hurt the system but it wioll sound bad.  The position of the knob doesn't affect how hard the amp operates.  The amp always is running at 100%.  The level control just allows more or less signal into the system to be amplified.  Think of it as pinching a garden hose connected to a sprinkler.  The sprinkler always fully throws out the water it recieves but pinching the hose allows less water to get there.  So setting the input level control is a function of the output level of your mixer.  You should set your mixer to it's maximum output (pre distortion) and then turn up the speaker input control until you either get enough level for the gig or until you hit the limit LED.  If it's not loud enough at that point then you need a bigger system.  Now just run your mixer up to that point or a little below, ensuring you never exceed it.  You might also back down the input level on the speakers just a little for an extra layer of protection.

As far as "pops" they could be coming from anywhere in the system.  You "hear" them from the speakers but with the little info provided there is just no way to know the cause of them.  Most times it is coming from cables and connectors, but there's no way to know here.

The other common possibility is that you could be sending a signal that has too many very low frequencies in it and then boosting it in the mixer.  The StageScape speaker all have protection from this, but it is possible in some mixers to add too much bass EQ and begin to defeat this.  Again if this is the case then you will either need to turn down or add more subs.

Let me ask you ... was the sub flat on the floor?  How far away from the back and side walls? 

If the answer to any of these is about 4 feet then you may be getting acoustic boundary cancellation.  That can suck the lows out acoustically.  Then when you try to replace then electronically you just burn up power without getting any acoustic result.



Re: L3s Overheating
by Gazeebo on 2013-03-01 11:44:58

thanks for the quick reply! A lot of great information here.

well from your answer i think i may have had a couple issues working against me last night. The room was a very large open space with zero sound absorbtion. The speaker was on the floor, very close to the back wall as well as a side wall. It's kind of backed into a corner. At the point of hearing the intially sub-woofer pops i may have been sending a hotter signal from the dj mixer, nothing that i felt was too heavy but maybe it was. The popping sound reminded me of overloading and overheating an older powered monitor like a mackie at which point i would put a fan on the back to cool the amp down. So thats why i just assumed that the speaker may have been overheating. But the fan was definitely working and i could feel the air coming out. I do have a pair of these subs and it sounds like it might be better to use them both in this particular space....



Re: L3s Overheating
by line6jonb on 2013-03-04 15:18:27

Hello,

Also, if the LED on the front of your StageSource speaker turns red, that is informing you that the internal tempurature is reaching near overheating levels.  If the LED doesn't turn red, you should not have to worry about overheating. 




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