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Sort of. But not really. There are multiple ways to jumper amps which change the input impedance in different ways. Jumpered inputs are mixed somewhere in the amp and share at least a power amp and a power supply. These results in interactions - negligible or audible - that aren't there when you use two parallel amps.

I'm not getting a straight answer from the internet. I want to simulate jumpering two amp inputs. It sounds like it's essentially the same as having the one guitar plugged into the two inputs so I would just need to use the two amps in parallel to each other going into the same cab. Like the Vib an Nrm channels in a Twin Reverb. Can anyone confirm this?

Yes, turning down the gain drive does help... Haven't tried increasing the bias... I'll give that shot! Thank you!

I havent had this problem before. Typically, same setup.....sans mixer connection....i'd have to run spotify volume around 80% or it overpowered my helix portion of what I was hearing. As far as I'm aware, unless a Spotify update changed something with settings, I have not noticed this issue otherwise. I really think the mixer is not an issue, was more looking for a way to adjust the Spotify/tracks volume as my Spotify/Windows volumes are maxed, without having to adjust my preset volumes cause they are hitting my mixer where I want them.....or needing to have a separate at home vs. practice/gig setlist of presets. I will say, which I have not added to this conversation....and this is more likely the 'problem'....is that I have redone my presets for this project. My output settings have always been set to 0.0 db previously, and then using a gain block to adjust a boost for leads. On my new presets I do have the rhythms -3db, and leads at 0.0 db. so nothing should be different then in a way that makes my guitar louder than it was. However I am using the SLO amps in my presets and have noticed that the channel volumes range between 4.5 and 7 depending on the version of the SLO and its gain setting. I'm wondering if that amp model is just that much 'louder' of an amp sim than the Placatar which I was using before. I'm using the same IR so no changes there. Is the SLO amp just that much louder compared to the Placatar? My Placatar settings (saturation switch was on, which seems to drop the output volume a bit) was constantly in the 9 range.

So when at home and not using the mixer do you still have this problem? Is it possible that Spotify has its own audio device setting, independent of the overall PC audio setting? What happens if you disconnect the mixer from the computer (usb) but leave it connected to Helix (XLR)? Just trying to troubleshoot here, not really suggesting solutions.

Create two extra versions of your target preset. Just save them to a new location without overwriting the existing preset. Save them independently somewhere outside your normal saving area. One with snapshot X set as default and one with snapshot Y set as default. Then link to them.

I dont usually use the mixer at home. I fail to see how the mixer being connected to the laptop via CAT5 cable, and only getting audio out of my Helix 1/4" output would cause me to get a different spotify level utilizing Helix's headphone jack. Windows is utilizing the Helix driver, volume level. There is nothing passing audio from the laptop to the mixer.

Please provide more info on your setup. You say 'my pre-amp'. Is that a physical device or do you mean a Pod Go pre-amp model? How are you monitoring your sound and what are the related cables/connections? Why do you want the POD Go in the setup at all; why not just connect your guitar directly to the pre-amp with your stompboxes pre or post as desired? Have you considered the 4CM setup as described in the manual?

If there is such a setting it doesn’t seem to be documented. Which means there likely isn’t.

I'm looking for a way I can create a bypass so that I can use my pre-amp and effects loop stomp boxes only. Is there a way to created a preset that is essentially a dry signal so the only effects are my stomp boxes either in my chain before the POD GO and / or in my effects loop?

You ALWAYS use a Helix amp, else it WILL sound like S#$&. In FRFR/LF FLAT/LF RAW/ Modes you'll likely use a CAB/IR in Helix or an IR loaded on your PC+ (called USERIR Mode). Which Mode you use depends on your ears. When I go this way I cut the HF Trim (tweeter level) by 6db. Sounds good to me. I usually use Speaker Mode. "AITR" is a term made up to differentiate between standing in front of a RAW AMP and listening to an engineered/processed amp such as on a recording or through the PA at a concert. IOW - 99% of the music you've ever heard and ALL of the recorded sounds you're trying to emulate with your modeler. Try EVERYTHING! Use what YOU like. DON'T believe everything you "hear". EVERY guitar played through an amplifier and speaker in a room is "AITR"!

Hi, Open a ticket with Customer Support: - https://line6.com/support/tickets/add.html Type “Native” into the Search function box and hit return. When it pops up a window saying that nothing matched your query, you will also see a button that allows you to open a ticket. On the next page - click the “No Product Applies” option and fill in your report in the space provided. Hope this helps/makes sense.

Hey all, I didn't see any post that covers a potential bug I've found yet so posting here. I am using Helix Native 3.71 on Windows 11. My PC is decently high-end, 32gb RAM, 7900x CPU, etc. I've confirmed this occurs in both Cubase Pro 13 and FL Studio 21.2.2. UMC404HD interface.Fresh installs of everything. I've made a thread on Reddit showing users with different hardware set-ups (Mac) and different DAWs having the same issue however: Helix Native works fine once added to a channel initially, and even after switching through a few different presets, but eventually after switching through many presets (30+) it stops outputting any audio. The plugin still does show the input levels are present (see pics), but even if you disable all the effects or switch presets, once it enters this broken state it will no longer output any audio. If you restart the DAW or delete the plugin from the channel and re-add it then it works fine with any preset again. In FL Studio, it actually makes a quick buzzing sound at the moment it breaks. When this occurs, other instances of Native on other channels don't cease functioning. I've also gotten this just randomly too- without switching through a bunch of presets. ie: Just changing 1 preset after loading a project can cause this to occur. This feels like it might be a memory leak within the plugin; resources are being allocated when switching between presets but never released, so eventually it presents an OOM exception in Native. It seems to happen faster when switching between more intensive presets (ie: DEVIN TOWNSEND). However, I don't see any increase in memory usage in the Task Manager when this happens. Does anyone know why this is occurring and how to resolve it? Would any other information could help debug this? I went to the bug report page but Helix Native did not appear as a valid product that I could register, and thus I could not report a bug against it. Greatly appreciate any insight, thanks.

This path is likely your problem. I do this as Guitar >> Helix >> Mixer (XLR) Laptop (with audio) >> Mixer (USB) Mixer >> Heaphones Set the mixer as the USB playback device in Windows, and trim inputs from the Laptop and use the faders to set the over relative volume - then use Patch changes to adjust the Helix output levels. I normally do this with both my mixer and Helix connected via USB but the Helix USB only being used for edit. This approach allows both the channel input levels to be monitored and the relativities of patches to pre-rec music - noting that pre-rec audio may vary in loudness as well.

4cm: 1) Guitar>HXSXL Input This is where you put the FX you want BEFORE the Mesa Preamp After those FX you place the FX Loop L Block HXSXL SEND (TS cable = Left Send)>Mesa Input Mesa FX Loop Send>HXSXL L/Mono Return This will return the Mesa's Preamp (with the FX assigned before the HXSXL FX Loop Block) to the FX Loop Block After the FX Loop Block is where you put FX like Delay/Reverb that you want between the Mesa Preamp and Poweramp HXSXL L/Mono MAIN Output>Mesa FX Loop Return 2) if you want a CLEAN boost to the overall volume, you can either place a GAIN Block at the END of the chain (before the Output block) or, to conserve a Block, assign a FS to the Output Block Level and set the MIN (Bypass/Controller Assign in HX Edit) to 0db and the MAX to whatever you want (I use +4db). 3) Only if you want to replace the Mesa Preamp with a Helix Amp/Preamp, in which case you place the Helix Amp Block next to the FX Loop Block, assign both to the same FS, and SAVE the preset with the FX Loop ON (the default for the Preset) and the Helix Amp OFF. This will Toggle the FX Loop (ON = Mesa Preamp, Helix Amp=OFF) and the Helix Amp (FX Loop =OFF, Helix Amp=ON).

Thanks silverhead, yea I use the Princeton and the Amp off options. It's mainly to use the express as an interface for the acoustic. The problem is the volume level. Ive use multiple acoustics and the volume is considerably lower than an electric. I was wondering if there was a setting in the express to raise the line level or something like that for acoustics.

Yes, I understand. Just saying that if the only way to do that is with multiple copies of preset 2, differing only in the default snapshot, I wouldn’t do it.

He’s using the POD Express, not POD Go. It does not have the Clarion model (at least not yet?).

Quote the section that you are referring to.

If the Sunset is in an FX Loop and all you want to do is Bypass it without using the Sunset's internal Bypass functions just Toggle the FX Loop ON/OFF. Maybe we're not clear on exactly what you want to do?

Sounds fine to me with no jumping through hoops. Maybe you just don't like this amp?

Have you solved this yet? All is well on my system.

Yes i should have stated it better. I'm going guitar>Helix > Laptop/mixer. I am monitoring directly off the Helix via the Headphones jack. I have the windows/Helix output selected and its at 100, usually this is fine and then adjust my headphones output to where i want my guitar to be in my ears and then use the spotify volume setting to adjust the 'mix' of the song vs preset volumes. i dont know if something changed or what, but my spotify and windows volumes are maxed and my preset is overpowering the music. ok. i've never had to adjust this so i'm not sure what changed. I'll try this, thank you

I have several questions all related to each other. I have a stomp XL and am using the 4 cable method of connecting to my Mesa head. I want to use the original amp sound as I like it and just use the effects part of the stomp(distortion, Wah(I have an expression pedal) delay, chorus are the main ones. 1. How do I chain these in HX edit using the 4CM so I still have the Mesa sound but just with those effects? Where do I put the effects loop in the chain? I see L and R outs as well so I'm just confused on how to chain it together. It seems that when I have the stomp connected through the 4CM it colors the amps sound and I don't get the true amp sound. I do not have any amp or cab models in the chain. 2. If I just want to use the Mesa amp for my distortion and do a lead boost what would be the best stomp pedal for that? 3. Once I have the chain in HX Edit with effects loop in there, DO i need to turn the effects loop on and off and assign it to a switch? If so what does that do exactly?