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  1. 7 points
    I'd like to add another "perspective" to this debate. These modelers are tools and ultimately in the right hands I believe you can get amazing results with both. At the same time in the wrong hands you can make the most powerful units sound really bad as well. I don't understand these posts from some people in here containing a long video of using just one modeler and then saying "I can't get these sounds from the Helix". No offence but chances are that you couldn't get them from the Fractal either. I believe that a big part of the learning curve in every modeler is that guitarists are now forced to learn how to tweak good guitar tones or purchase tone packs. I don't think it's a debate of "which one sounds better". If both can sound like real tube amps then there's no other comparison besides specifications and features and how they fit the specific user's needs.
  2. 6 points
    I can’t wait to get started with it. For anyone interested, I posted an unboxing video to YT. I won’t link to it here in case that’s against the rules, but my channel link is in my profile.
  3. 6 points
    IM SO EXCITED...... Sold 2 pieces of gear today, and that means Monday morning I will be pulling the trigger on Helix Floor. Anyone for a high five?
  4. 6 points
  5. 6 points
    You do understand that demanding "proof" of something that (by definition) cannot be quantified, or otherwise measured in any definitive/ objective way, is like to trying to pick up a turd by the clean end, right? Never mind... don't answer that, we've all wasted enough time already. You'll "win" the argument by default, because what you're demanding cannot be done. It's a half-clever (yet thoroughly obnoxious) means of seeking external validation for an already fully-formed opinion. And while it makes for some festive arguments, in the end it achieves nothing and helps no one. Your Congressman would be proud.... But what the hell, I'll bite....I posted the same clips a while back in a previous iteration of this retarded discussion. So as long as we're all intent on taking yet another ride on the stupidmobile, here ya go: Listen to This Really Needs A Title by cruisinon2 #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/user-100603322/this-really-needs-a-title Listen to Here Goes Nuthin' by cruisinon2 #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/user-100603322/here-goes-nuthin-final-edit Love it, hate it... either way, it's no skin off my a$$.
  6. 6 points
    The thing is that comparing the stock presets or even default amp/cab settings of each device doesn't mean much. They might be models of the same amp model number, but they're not models of the same amp. They're not using the same IRs, the same mics, etc. In order to do a true A/B test, you need to start by comparing like for like... So, really, you'd at least want to use the same IR with the comparable amp models. In any case, if the Axe FX III inspires you more, get that. I have no desire to convince anyone what they should and shouldn't like. Guitar tone isn't a competition. These are all tools. Use what inspires you most.
  7. 5 points
    Here's a FREE PRESET AND IR to make your Helix sound like my real Dual Recto. In the video you'll hear a comparison between Helix and Axe-Fx III. I can definitely get them both sounding just like my Recto: DOWNLOAD LINK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bfibnuenvsp7bwo/ML Sound Lab FREE Recto.zip?dl=0
  8. 5 points
    Logic is logic my friend. You're just wanting to set me up for a game where I post something and no matter how hard I work on it you say, "I hate that." I didn't fall for those games in 3rd grade when a friend of mine preferred Caddyshack to Ghostbusters, and I'm not dumb enough to fall for it now. Find someone else to hurt on the teeter totter.
  9. 4 points
    I sold my Helix and my wife's car and bought the 194 real stomp boxes. Now I can't afford to buy the 74 amps. I think I may have made a mistake.
  10. 4 points
    Copy the block before you change it. If you then want to go back to your original setting just paste the block back into the chain.
  11. 4 points
    I think skepticism regarding the voracity of a demo video is only warranted if you are under the impression that the person making the video acutally used a different modeller and lied about using the helix or whatever product they demo’d. I’m a skeptic about pretty much everything it’s just me. It doesn’t mean I don’t trust or believe anything, it just means i withhold belief until the claim has been demonstrated to be true. Put another way there is enough evidence to warrant the belief. in all these cases the video is the evidence, the Helix can sound that good. I’ve seen plenty of demo videos so I’m not relying on a single one which means I can increase the confidence i have in the belief. Ultimately I would have to believe that all the guys putting up vids are involved in a conspiracy but if I’m using occam’s razor I have to go with the more simple explanation. Also the crap about how good the players are doesn’t factor in for me. Let’s get real here, if buddy in the video handed his guitar to me, although I might not do justice to the passage the guitar tone would be the same for every good or lollipop note I play. The signal is going through the same chain. I’ve gone and watched bands in bars with mediocre players that have a great guitar tone. If you can’t separate the tone from the skill to decide what is actually impressing you, that’s not skepticism that’s just an inability that you need to work on. And I think if you thought about it you could probably do it, you just have to try to get past all the times that you have read on various forums that good tone is all in the fingers. And to tie this all back to the thread, I have no interest in spending estra cash on a device when I can get equally impressive tones from my Helix. That, and the added luxury of having the footswitches built in, being able to control other devices from Helix, the scibble strips, etc. It’s a no brainer. Helix hangs with the best of them in tone and it meets my needs in other departments. Rant over...
  12. 4 points
    Honestly, I am SOOOOOOOOO proud of myself that I avoided even looking at this discussion for as long as I have. I mean, being the sarcastic demon I am I could have had an absolute BLAST with this thread, but I'm slowly learning to conserve my snide remarks so I have plenty of them for when I REALLY need them...although I have to admit the OP has made this is one quite tempting..... At any rate, I think you guys are doing a fine job on your own. Carry on........
  13. 4 points
    I just read something that I think really applies. I believe that modelling has reached a level where it really is near impossible to say empirically that one modeller is better than another. It's now kind of where amp choice has been. Some people think Marshals are the best. Some the AC30. Some Fender. None of them are better than the other. It's now more about what you like. Some people, overall, like the way one modeller over the others. Some like some of the amps one modeller does, but also like how another modeller does other amps. It's all over the place. It is to the point where you really do have to try it out for yourself. Lots of people like the way the Amplifire6 does Marshals. Others Helix. Others say ya gotta use this or that IR for it to really pop. Just get a device from a store with a 30 day, no questions asked, return policy. If you can. Other wise, I could tell you that this one sounds better than that one. Just like I could tell you a Marshal sounds better than an AC30. As we all know, that doesn't mean that would be true for you.
  14. 4 points
    Cool story bro. Sounds like you know what you should buy for yourself. Just curious, but do you like Hawaiian pizza?
  15. 4 points
    So even after having the Helix after 3.5 years, I'm still finding new tricks. I have a Chase Bliss Tonal Recall RKM, and one of the things I really like about that pedal is how thick, dark and chewy the repeats can get. I hadn't really spent a lot of time messing with trying to recreate it in the Helix. I could get somewhat close with the Adriatic Delay, but last night I decided to mess around with the Mod/Cho Echo model, which is kind of a boring name for a very interesting effect, as it turns out. It has high and low cut parameters, and turning the high cut down very low, like around 1.2kHz is getting me what I was missing - surprisingly so. I actually kind of prefer some of the attributes of this to the Tonal Recall, I think. The Tonal Recall does a lot of other weird stuff, but here I'm comparing kind of a basic dark analog echo sound. I used a looper block as the first thing in my chain for this clip so the same dry track is being fed to both the Tonal Recall and to the Mod/Cho Echo. Not too shabby when you consider the Tonal Recall RKM is a $500 pedal... I won't say which is which for now, but I'll reveal it later. In any case, I personally think I'll be selling another pedal very soon.
  16. 4 points
    First, I want to emphasize something about the whole global EQ thing. If you read the manual you'll note that Line 6 warns about using global EQ only for making corrections in the acoustics of the room and there's a very important reason for that. But I want to put a couple of things in perspective for you first. A key value of the Helix or any modeler is its ability to completely transform your sound from song to song, different genres, or in the middle of a song. This is something new to people who have used traditional amps. Typically you have an amp and it stays within a certain range of tone all the time. Pedals can help transform the tone, but it will always have the base tone of the amp at it's core. That's not the case with the Helix. You can move from a heavy rock sound with a Marshall amp, to a very clean bluesy sound with a Roland JC120, to a more country or americana sound using a Fender twin, to a crunchy Pete Townshend sound with a Hi-Watt. However using high cuts will vary depending on the amp model used, the cabinet used, and the mic or microphone mix used. So using global EQ gets in the way of doing that correctly because it applies across whatever amp, cab, or mic is being used. That's why it's important to keep such things within the patch itself so it can change, if necessary, right along with your base tone. Another key difference in moving from a traditional amp to a modeler is that the paradigm being used on a modeler is one more closely associated with that of a recording studio than a live performance. You've probably read stories about how famous groups with famous records record one track with a certain setup of amps and cabinets and a completely different setup for the next song. That's more in line with how a Helix signal chain works than traditional live setups where you simply plug in and play the same rig all night. You don't change your amp or your cabinet or your mic'ing approach from one song to the next, but in the Helix you can which is extraordinarily powerful in achieving a wide range of tones even within a genre or style. That doesn't mean you HAVE to make those changes, but you can if you need to. However, just like in a studio the more you understand how all of these things affect your tone, the more control you have over your tone. Things like Fletcher Munson are always in play whether you play a traditional amp or a modeler. They're more prominent on a modeler because you're listening to your sound through a particular mic placed in a particular location on your cabinet. You'll hear the same things on a traditional amp and cabinet if you place your ear in the same place you would a mic on your speaker cabinet. And if you're playing live through a PA, THAT is what your audience is hearing, which is NOT what you hear standing next to your amp on stage. That's why the first step in getting your tone right is being sensitive to what cabinet or mix of cabinets you're using, what mic or mix of mics you're using, and the placement and mix of those mics. Using a Shure SM-57 with a distance of 1" is a much harsher sound than using a Royer R121 ribbon mic at a 6" distance. Combining those two mics can give you a middle ground between harsh and dark. That's where you start when getting your tone where you want it. Any additional corrections using EQ can be done after that using a parametric or graphic eq to fine tune the sound. With all of that in mind I'd refer you to Jason Sadites exceptional series of videos on YouTube to see how he applies all of these elements to dial in a variety of tones.
  17. 3 points
    Your Autumn should be the same day as our spring, it's when the sun is in line with the equator. Or more precisely put, when 2.8 starts to come into view. Science just isn't able to predict yet when it will be fully visible.
  18. 3 points
    I know an excellent divorce lawyer...;) Enjoy!
  19. 3 points
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  20. 3 points
    Welcome to today's episode of "First World Minor Gripes That Will Be Forgotten By Lunch"...;)
  21. 3 points
    I don't understand how a You Tube Demo that is well put together is irrelevant just because most cannot play like that, or don't have the knowledge in producing a good looking, great sounding demo. There are three things I get from videos like that.... (regardless of the product they are promoting.... Helix, Kemper, AXEFX, etc....) It shows, without a doubt, that the "tool of choice" is more than capable of getting the job done If I want to accomplish that, I need to put in the time to LEARN how to use it. (Optional) If I want to play like that, I need to practice more! IMO: Too many people want to be spoon fed great tone and if they aren't willing put the effort into #2 (or in fairness, just don't have the knowledge or ability to figure it out), they may attempt to discredit #1 to justify their failed attempt. Good carpenters never blame the tools!
  22. 3 points
    In retrospect, I should have stopped reading after "I don't want to start trouble, but..."
  23. 3 points
    Oh goody... another "if you can't hear the difference then there's something wrong with your ears" thread. It's been a while. I bet this one finally declares one subjective opinion to be "right", because as well all know, if something is said emphatically enough, it just "becomes" truth... lmao And we're off!
  24. 3 points
    That's a nice thing for you to say. Thank you :-D :-D I think that's because i have a) very little experience with real (and different) amps - because i had my (preamp+power amp+cab)-combination for 30 years (only changed multi effects from time to time) and b) a lot of experience with not getting things (esp. complex ones) right on the first few tries - because i am 50 years old. ;-) Thank you for sharing that experience (that i lack completely). I've noticed that i have to develop 'an ear for this' first. A lot of these amps and cabs and parameters sound a) either strange ('who would use a sound like THAT? And for what?') b) or very similar (esp. sag/hum/ripple/bias(X)). ... but then i see you guys discussing in elaborate detail the differences between IRs, where i only hear 'more boomy' and 'more harsh' - and know: It's me. ;-) Also as a 'bring your gear and plug it in'-type of guy i had no experience with setting up microphones on amps. The last 8 years i played with a fixed cab sim directly into FOH and my sound guy knew what to do :-D :-D... What really helped me: Someone on this forum explained the difference of 'hearing what the audience hears' (through a mic'ed cab) and 'standing next to my amp' ... highly plausible. I am really excited to learn more about all this and very grateful for all the advice on this forum. Thanks .... now i have to vanish into my basement. ;-) THX Simon P.S.: Yes, i am a fan of structuring texts by lists. ;-)
  25. 3 points
    Powercab and the ASM 10's are both FRFR, but a different kind of FRFR. They're both optimized for electric guitar by having the woofer being essentially a coaxial guitar speaker. A tweeter is added to provide high frequencies for typical guitar speaker IRs and acoustic guitar tones. If you use these for vocal monitoring, keyboards, or bass, you might be disappointed compared to reasonably good PA speakers. But for electric guitar, they might be just what you need. The difference between ASM 10s and Powercab Plus is the ability to set Powercab plus to Flat/LF Raw or Speaker mode/Natural to just use the woofer without the tweeter as a traditional 1x12 cabinet. I don't know if the ASM 10 can do that. Powercab Plus also has a level control on the tweeter so you can flexibly control the FRFR high end, something that modeling amps tend to struggle with. Powercab plus can also provide different speaker models by applying specific EQ processing on top of Flat/LF Flat mode. But Powercab plus and Helix are just getting started. The integration between Variax, Helix and Powercab covers the whole signal chain. To me, this is hard to beat. Sure there are things that might sound better if you optimize each one. A vintage Les Paul will sound better than the Variax Lister model, a vintage tube amp will sound better than Helix, a 1x12 with a Celestion G12-65 will sound better than Powercab Cream - at least for the one thing they all do best. But the combination in an integrated system has the advantage of simplicity, flexibility, ease of use, broad tone range and reliability that might be a lot more meaningful than subtle tone differences that are totally lost in the mix in in most live gigging situations.
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