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This last edition of Line 6"s New Model Citizen blog further reinforces my belief that they really should create an amp model that allows us to configure with our own choices for the virtual preamp and power tubes. And yes, having separate preamp and power amp models would be even better. https://blog.line6.com/2021/10/14/dave-hunter-output-tube-types-setting-the-foundation-of-your-tone/?utm_source=Marketo&utm_medium=BlogEmail&utm_campaign=Blog_DaveHunter&mkt_tok=MTI2LUxCTi00MjgAAAGAR7c_NpoYaxlpN3mfETro_p1lX_d88NtNKHiQbh1QeL5_DHT9f95RkDsZo5xBTXVcMwhbBPxI4zpaPcluyzXBYGCamF6zzE_p58_XhS4JX7c

Hey Guys, Today we have a play through of one of my tracks, Heavy as Heavy. I recorded the track with all new guitar tones using the Line 6 Helix Rack. I used the PV Panama amp model which is modeled after the Peavey 5150. I stayed inside of the Helix this time using the 4 X 12 Uber T75 Cabinet model using a “Dual” Cab block blending two different mics and placement on the same cab. CHAIN: PRS Tremonti SE loaded with Fishman Fluence Moderns Line 6 Helix Rack using the PV Panama amp model and 4 x 12 Uber T75 cabinet model Into the Universal Audio Apollo Twin which feeds Persons Studio One 3 Drums are courtesy of Toontrack Superior Drummer 3

This is especially important with a spring reverb effect since in the real world, that reverb tank is in fact between the preamp and the power amp. Also, when you connect effects to a real tube amp's effects loop, they too are between the preamp and the power amp.

Well, not really. There's a pretty noticeable difference between cranking a master volume and boosting the input stage of a power amp. However, while I possibly wouldn't need dedicated power amps to feed them with super hot levels, I'd defenitely love to see them for basically two reasons: - To fool around with different pre- and poweramp combinations (which makes quite a difference). - To insert some FX between the two. The poweramp in this case might kind of "gel" things together or add some "bloom" - which I think could be pretty desirable effects.

Uhh, no. You don't understand how a master volume works. A master volume merely controls the amount of signal going to the power section by reducing it. After it's on full, that's it. No more signal can be sent that is more than the preamp is already putting out because the master volume is not capable of boosting a signal. However, since we're in a virtual scenario here, if the preamp and power amp were separate blocks, you could put a clean boost between the preamp and power amp, keep the preamp clean, crank the master volume and boost the preamp's output to the power section. This would induce power tube saturation without the added preamp saturation. Of course, while this is certainly doable with a real tube amp that has an effects loop, it would be ridiculously loud.

I'd say: Nailed it! I hear small differences but those could have all sorts of causes of which the two most likely are: my ears making stuff up and circuit component fluctuations and variations like different pots. The character of the original is definitely there.

And fwiw, just having independent power amps would be quite welcomed already. I have a Soldano SP77 preamp that sounds quite gorgeous through the power amp sim of my Amplifirebox. Can't use it as nicely with the Helix.

I would even take that a bit further. Even without going *too* much into whatever details (such as in Fractal or Bias land), I'd like to see some sort of "playground" amp model. What it could/should feature: - Independent pre- and poweramps. - Choice between various basic drive characteristics. - Pre- and post tone stack (that alone would make up for a whole new world of a difference), maybe even some inbetween tone stack options (such as on some Boogies). - Multiple drive stages (ok, we already have these on some ampe), so you could place a tone stack inbetween. In addition, all that would work a lot better with these options: - Customizable tone stacks (as in a parametric EQ). - A "consolidated" tone stack allowing you to not always see all parameters exposed. - Input level as a modifier, at least for all the amp internals (I wish there would be all sorts of modifiers all throughout the Helix, but I doubt we'll ever see that, which is as well a certain part of the reason why I will likely switch to something else). Especially the latter can do *soo* much in terms of dynamic interaction. Once you fool around with, say, Guitar Rig, you'll know how far input levels used as modifiers can take you. You can turn even the most stiff feeling amp into a dynamic monster within seconds. Now route input level to both drive and, say, a mid control (and maybe add some inversed modulation for the treble control) - and *whoosh* there's your amp which will clean up super nicely when turning down your guitar volume, regardless of the guitar used. Anyway, a custom amp would be quite some fun.

For some reason I'd always skipped past the helix WhoWatt but after you mentioned it I gave it a go and absolutely love it. Too many good options with the Helix. I think I need to force myself to sit down every weekend with a different amp block and treat it like I just went out and spent £££ on it (as in, give it plenty of time and attention). Just as a clean amp it's got a really great feel to it and does take pedals really well. Thanks for the suggestion.

Helix is being used professionally all the time for direct recording. In fact, I'd venture to say that during the epidemic, it's one of the primary reasons to buy a Helix.

New video up on the channel! Jinjer has quickly become one of my favorite bands and in this video, I attempt to sound like Roman, their awesome guitar player, using the Line 6 Helix and of course, OwnHammer Impulses.

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my band Seven Circles just dropped our new album Retrograde Parade, helix was used to record all guitars, and bass

My Buttocks hurts from all the hours I spent sitting down playing with the helix.Is that a good enough endorsement?