MiroslavKloud

A pity that I can not explore some functional JTV. It cannot be difficult to find what is different. In the Line6 they have this opportunity. I am 100% convinced that they know all details. But they not admit. Why?

Rocco Crocco, thanks, but the gap between the string and the casing is large. No mechanical contact. If you look at my video, you will hear that the problem is not just palm muting. Alex, welcome to the Club.

snhirsch, totally agree. 1. Electronics was disconnected, piezo directly into the POD (3.5 Mohm). POD was used only as USB sound card. No audio processing. 2. The reference signal was of course connected to the input for piezo (piezo unconnected). But I wrote previously, this measurement is not objective. psarkissian, "I have found the 3.5 Meg-Ohm input impedance to be one of the settings with a higher noise floor" - totally irrelevant "...as for the DSP, he would need a schematic or a chip data sheet. And even then there would be too many..." - You should know that it is nonsense to connect or measure anything after AD converter. I do not need schema for connecting the signal to analog input. The important thing is this: at the string E6 is heard "clank tone" G # - 1660Hz. The measured value corresponds exactly to this. The origin of this sound is thus clarified.

snhirsch, I used POD HD500 - input impedance 3.5 Mohm. I see no problem in this. More problematic is the measurement of the frequency characteristics of electronics. Frequency response is changing (I assume) depending on played tone. This can not work when using noise. However, the measurement result corresponds to how the defect manifested. snowgoose50 "On a more general note, I don't see why Line 6 slavishly model every aspect of a guitar including its faults." It is not modeled. This is a fault of JTV. In the video I try to prove that the longitudinal wave is an integral part of sound at every guitars (anyone can verify). Magnetic pickups do not have the problem usually - on my JTV the L-Wave is very loud on the string A5 and therefore magnetic pickup captures this. If someone says: "that particular Strat is supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound." So it is a mistake or a deliberate lie.

https://youtu.be/lHm3Tj-pa8I

snowgoose50, yes, pick type and technique have influence, but negligible. psarkissian, the best solution - throw away picks and use EBow.

This is a detailed analysis. Does not offer however (as well as psarkissian) answer to the question, why the string A5 is okay?

Firmware.

This is a sensible idea, but it would prove on the all strings. Not only E6. I am preparing a new video, which will be much more in detail showing the problem.

Line 6 employee wrote a post #406: "Non- answers and obfuscation??? Hardly...." I responded in the post #407 - I believe that it is relevant and understandable to everyone who read this forum. Line 6 employee responded in the post #408 - relevant content - nothing.

" And the guy from L.R.Baggs explained a number of things about the aspects about piezos" - "What I can say, is that the "clank tone" as it is commonly defined, is, in fact, part of every Piezo bridge pickup." "Now, it's a matter of narrowing down the source." - Ask the guy from L.R.Baggs. "As for the the Model itself is from a vintage 59 Strat. I've had this talk with the programmer. Yes, it's going to have a bit more something about it that unfortunately Miroslav doesn't like. Popular with blues players, but not with metal players (seems to be the pattern). So yes, that particular Strat is supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound." Strat is supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound. ? Telecaster is supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound. ?? Gibsons are supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound. ??? Rickenbacker is supposed to have that kind of Low-E sound. ???? Gretsch also? I'm not a metal player. "A number of causes have already been eliminated from the list of causes. Any other ideas?" - "What is clang-tone? Clang-tone, or wolf tone, is a sound inherent in a vibrating string. A string vibrates in three modes: Torsional, Longitudinal, and Transverse. Torsional vibration does not produce a sound wave – it is the string just twisting like a drive shaft in a car. Longitudinal vibration is what the magnetic pickups on a guitar are “hearing†and reproducing. Transverse vibration is a wave going up and down the string as it is stretches and relaxes longitudinally. Magnetic pickups do not reproduce Transverse vibration, but it is the type of vibration that a piezo pickup “hears,†and it produces the clang. Some describe its sound as a “ping†or “plink.†It is there even on acoustic guitars.... ...They did a great job. Between Lloyd and Michel’s work on the clang-tone issue, and some slick DSP algorithms by our engineering and sound design guys, clang-tone has been essentially eliminated. On the string A5 - Yes. E6 on the string - not.

A little boring here. We have 400 posts, it wants a celebration. Line6 director should utter a solemn speech. Maybe something like this: "Dear customers, in this solemn moment, thank you for purchasing of our products and for your patience. We have reason to celebrate. 400 posts! So many, many words have been written without anything been said. It is not a shame. This is a success - our great success! I thank you also to all our employees who worked tirelessly and again and again they said - nothing. Thanks again to all and for the future I wish nerves of steel. "

I hope, that "quest of cause" is definitively abandoned and now comes : The solution!

I wrote a query to L.R.Baggs: http://www.lrbaggs.com/forum/showthread.php?2566-Problem-with-Line6-Variax-please-help&p=5766#post5766

I have a question, who must explore the reasons and find solutions? Line6 or customers? Response is not necessary.

I have already had problems with tendonitis and could not play for some time. I do not want to risk - just for the reluctance of manufacturer to solve their problem.

I believe that the 11-gauge strings can remedy the problem - it makes sense if the cause is the L-wave. It is not logical, if the cause is elsewhere. But the 11-gauge creates a new problem with my tendons. 10-gauge is the limit for me. I do not play heavy metal. Rather classic rock and blues sometimes. I'm stubborn and I want to my guitar (and not only mine) works with any strings.

We do not deal L-waves in the wood or in the air. Thankfully. We have "simpler" problem. L-waves on the string - steel. But here my sense is in the end. I have not found a link between: frequency (1,6-1,7kHz), speed of sound in steel (5000-6000 m/sec) and length of the string (0,63 m). Maybe it complicates the cores/wrap wire of string and also mechanical properties of the bridge. "Untrusted ..." Do not be angry, I still feel that your task is not solve this problem, but only production of fog.

"I wouldn't fixate on any one thing, guitars have multiple ways of generating the same or similar symptoms, but from very different root causes." You look untrustworthy with such statements. :( It would be good if everyone recorded the demo, we can all each other compare. Same sound = the same cause.

They answer: the guitar is fine! Psarkissian, I want to know if you acknowledge, that our problem is a longitudinal wave?

No audible improvement.

I ask at the thread, not the tool. I have no ability to measure with an accuracy of 0.1 mm. I want to calculate the angle of rotation of the screw.

I'll try it tomorrow but I am skeptical. Do you mean 0.1 mm on a bridge, or a 0.1 mm at 12-fret? Is screw holding the bridge 5/16 "(18 threads per inch) or 8mm (1.25 mm per thread)?

Excuse me - too complicated text for my English. Set lower action? 1mm? I do not think that is possible this problem fix within of adjustment. Your technicians in Holland this tried very long time.