DunedinDragon
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Hello Dragon, read your post on harmonizer I was wondering if the helix has a unison setting as I don’t see any setting for unison
i had this setting on my boss gt100 and I’m trying to recreate a certain tone with the harmonizer
on the Gt100 I would set the harmonist to unison and then select 1 voice and the Key I needed, and the select mix percentage as required
then the pre delay and feedback I’d assign to the expression pedal
so I tried to recreate something as such on the helix and well it didn’t actually work out
any tips to see how I could port those settings into the helix
thank you very much for your valued input
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The advice was followed, it was demonstrated also at the music store who is now hearing what so many of us who have brought them back are complaining about and the difficulty we are having getting around it. Line6 is also getting an ear full of the responses you guys think are appropriate. There are differences in how you are using the helix and the way the rest of us were hoping to us it. Know that we have just ventured into the HX effects unit and the same problem exits with it. I , along with many others in the forum are not trying to deliberately mock the Helix. But for the price tag we feel we should see as much effort put into the sound it produces as went into the interface cosmetics and editor capabilities. You guys don't like to hear that, I get it. But hundreds of us don't share the same experience or opinion at the moment. We would all like to see the Helix work , especially in a live rig setup. I am sorry that you dont or wont understand
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I cover a very wide range as well including rock, jazz, blues, funk, acoustic ballads, and country and have never experienced the issues you're referring to as far as combining any of the Helix distortion pedals to any of the amp models. I commonly use the TS808 (Scream 808), Klon Centaur (Minotaur), Teemah, and ProCo Rat on various patches with no problem. Generally speaking I don't use the pedals for rhythm parts and depend more on the amp for that type of overdrive. I do use the pedals for leads patches that I use the amp's natural gain for overdrive with no issues at all. I do have one specific patch which is based on a Joe Walsh tone in which I use a HiWatt amp with a Teemah distortion pedal for rhythm work and add a Tube Screamer for the lead. Again no problems at all with that patch which I've used consistently in various venues over the last year or so.
In that case I have the HiWatt configured with Drive=3.8, Bass=4.0, Mid=6.0, Treble=5.5, Presence =3.8, Ch Vol=9.1, Master=6.0, and deep parameters are all stock with the exception of Bias which is set to 7.0. This is the amp only with no stock cabinet. For this patch I use my Les Paul Standard with Burstbucker II pro pickups. The patch doesn't use a noise gate and is set to Auto for Guitar In-Z. I have a volume pedal as the first block of the signal chain.
I use a Celestion Redback 412 closed back IR mix of a MD421 and R121 mics with no hi cut or low cut
The Teemah is set to Gain=5.4, Bass Cut=2.9, Treble Cut=6.2, Clipping=Up, Level=4.0.
The TS808 for lead is set to: Gain of 5.2, Tone = 5.7, Level = 4.7
My final Parametric EQ has a high cut of 9.6 Khz, and no low cut and no other adjustments to any frequencies.This is a dry patch with no reverb or delay.
I set my Helix master volume at about the 11 o'clock position which roughly measures at a -6db line level on the 1/4" out. My XLR out is set to MIC level and is not affected by my helix master volume knob so it's sent at full strength based on the configuration of the patch levels. This tends to be fairly consistent with the levels coming into the board from the other inputs including vocal mics.
On stage I'm using a Yamaha DXR12 attached to the L/Mono out on the Helix with the DXR12 volume level set at noon (unity), and I have no DSP contouring options turned on, and it's configured to not have any high pass sub-woofer filters engaged. On stage the DXR12 is positioned behind me on a half-height speaker pole.
Our band's PA consists of a Mackie ProFX 22 mixer attached to two FOH towers each tower consisting of one QSC KW181 subwoofer with two KLA12 line array speakers. I've also used this patch successfully on several other PA systems both line array and standard powered speakers, as well as in one venue in which we simply depend on stage volume for the instruments and don't go through the PA except for vocals primarily due to the fact that the PA is a passive system with a centralized power amp and isn't sufficient for dealing with the instruments accurately.
Hopefully that's enough information that you can compare it with what you're doing to see where the difference lies.
Here's a simple video we took of that song during a rehearsal to give you a feel for he sound.
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The advice was followed, it was demonstrated also at the music store who is now hearing what so many of us who have brought them back are complaining about and the difficulty we are having getting around it. Line6 is also getting an ear full of the responses you guys think are appropriate. There are differences in how you are using the helix and the way the rest of us were hoping to us it. Know that we have just ventured into the HX effects unit and the same problem exits with it. I , along with many others in the forum are not trying to deliberately mock the Helix. But for the price tag we feel we should see as much effort put into the sound it produces as went into the interface cosmetics and editor capabilities. You guys don't like to hear that, I get it. But hundreds of us don't share the same experience or opinion at the moment. We would all like to see the Helix work , especially in a live rig setup. I am sorry that you dont or wont understand
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Actually I don't know if there are "hundreds" in the same camp as you. I'm certainly active not only in this forum, but the modeling forum on TGP as well as the Helix Facebook group. And there certainly is a camp, and always has been from day one, of users that prefer to use the Helix with traditional tube amps and cabinets, and have been doing so since day one of the Helix as well as on the POD HD series. There are clearly some that don't get what they expect from the system in most part because they don't follow the general methods and advice of people that have similar setup to theirs.
Clearly the VAST majority of Helix users are using full range speakers and have been highly successful and satisfied with the investment both in studio and live applications. The same is true of users with more conventional setups but with some understandable limitations on what features apply and how they would need to be used. None of this is mysterious and all makes sense if you understand what the technology is doing and how it's meant to be applied. But after several years of working with this stuff I've only come across a handful of people that simply couldn't achieve what they wanted to. No one can answer why that is other than the person using it. But given the success rate of the Helix among the folks that have bought it there's clearly no inadequacies in the fundamental design and implementation of the system. I and the thousands of others using the system don't use it because of it's interface alone. We gig with it weekly and have for several years now in venues as large or as small as you can imagine with great sounds and results. Otherwise the Helix could never have been as successful as it has been in the marketplace.
I can assure you I'm no novice and I clearly understand what makes for great sound and great performances. I've been doing it on stage and in the studio for more than 5 decades across the United States, Europe, and Asia. So I'm not being fooled by a slick interface or nice looking design. If it doesn't work for you then there's no fault in going to what does work for you. But I can guarantee you along with tens of thousands of happy customers that there's no deficiency in what the Helix provides given what it is, and what it does...which is a modeling device. That's it's core audience and it's core application. And it does it as well as any others in it's category, and I've owned them all at one point or another.
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