CBTL

Great stuff, anything in there for the original snappy studio version of "After Midnight" or "Let It Rain"? :)

Will have a crack at them 😀

THank you very much for this. Always love that lead tone on 'Pretending' and you got that and his other tones dialed in beautifully. Great job!

Thanks man

On that video he had a pre amp block, but no amp or cab or IR. So if I want to play acoustic on a verse then change to electric for chorus, I should have a snapshot for the verse / acoustic, with just a pre amp and no amp or cab of IR?

Correct, it's easy to set up an acoustic on any preset this way!

Check the solo for bagpipieness

To me it sounds like a screamer to fender amp with some univibe or chorus and short delay.

I'm an idiot, iv been listening to the ballad of John Henry lol I will listen to the proper song!

I will take a listen later. Pitch echo is great for a mimique double effect, I use it a lot!

One thing that's happening to me. The Variax setting don't translate and I know this is due to a flaw that is supposed to be corrected in the next update. So watching your video, I eneterd all of the Variax settings. Snapshot 1 is fine but snapshot 2, even though it says in Helix edit and on my guitar the tone is set to 10, it sounds like it's on snapshot 1's setting. I know the tone isn't on 10 since when I move it down and back up to 10 it brightens up. Does anyone know if this is due to the Variax settings transfer protocol that doesn't work? It's very frustrating. I have tried everything and no matter what I do, snapshot 2's Variax tone is definitely lower than where it was saved and where all of the setting say it is. The same is true with snapshot 4.

Best thing thing you can do in this circumstance is to clear the block controllers for the input block and reset them. So, you need to reset variax model and variax tone to snaps. You can then go through all the snaps and set them to what they should be. Use the video for reference.

The patch was created with 2.11. I find if I use anything that was created on any other firmware I have to follow this process. It's a pain in the arse and hopefully it will be sorted in 2.20, if it ever actually arives.

Short but sweet this one.

You have to reassign the input block to 'Multi' or whichever channel you use, and the effects may need a little tweaking to suit your particular guitar, but I just loaded it on mine this morning and it sounds pretty good with my PRS coil tapped.

 

To CBTL: Out of curiosity, why the studio preamp in front of the guitar amps? I didn't notice a huge difference with or without it, just curious about your reasoning behind them. Thanks for putting this out there for us!!

It was a tip I picked up off here, I can't remember who from. To me it adds a slight tube warmth to the sound. If you needed the DSP you could quite easily take it out. I also do a lot of stuff with an acoustic snapshot in the patch, I always use the tube pre for that!

CBTL has made all of his patches available on Customtone. Just use the search term 'CBTL' and you will find them all. You can download the patch and inspect it to answer your question about the settings. But the rationale would certainly be worth hearing!

 

Thanks CBTL for your generosity.

Thanks for giving folks the heads up friend 😀

Wow! Thank you for sharing this information (and for the work in recreating David's sounds for this song)!

 

I did have one question... For the modulation block that sits on a path that originates before the speaker cab block and returns to the main path after the speaker cab block, is the split ratio 50/50? I was intrigued about the rationale for having some of the output signal bypass the speaker cab block.

 

Don't get me wrong; what you're generating sounds great! I just hadn't previously considered using that technique. Was there a technical reason for that routing choice (I just want to understand the principle that would lead me down that path). Thanks again!

Thanks for your kind words. The split is indeed 50/50. The reason I do it this way is because it's a rotating CAB lol I don't want a cab into another cab, it would colour the true sound of the rotating cabinet. When creating a tone I try abd be as authentic as I can to the original and try and use the emulations of the exact gear used to record the tunes.

Gilmour nearly always splits his signal from his pedals and rack. One split goes to the amps, the other to a rotating cab of some sort depending on the era in question. That way he can blend the exact amount of modulated signal with amped signal that he wants. Some times it's super subtle.

The beauty of helix is that it allows me to do this exact thing and then bring it all back together for delay and reverb. Sometimes I will run the rotary path straight to output. It just depends on the sound I'm trying to copy.

Hope I make sense.

Getting plenty of downloads, drop a comment on guys 😀

Great idea, would speed up the editing process

TBH, I hear way more top end on yours. I might feel differently if I hear his track in isolation, ad/or at higher fidelity, but side by side here it seems clear.

Thanks for the feedback. I do have global high cuts. Wonder if that make difference

Glenn DeLaune sells an excellent nylon patch, and that coupled with some IRs of classical guitars you can find on the Internet I've created some great sounding tones.

 

As for the bass, a longer scaled guitar seems to help the tracking, but I've dropped some heavy guitar tones into bass territory with good results.

I second this!

Hey, I use the rotarys a lot in my patches. The problem is there very accurate in there modelling. By design they boost the mids and dip the highs. There are lots of different things you can try. Remember it's a cab so don't run it into one, try it parallel with a cab. Try a parametric eq straight after, that should help. Watch my comfortably numb or dark side tutorial to see how I do it.

A while back I posted about how too achieve the tone of a Cornish G2. Here is my guide on how to do it. I think iv done a pretty good job if I do say so my self.

Here is the reference tone.

Set up a patch with your fave peddles and amp and there settings. You can then copy and paste them in to other patches till your hearts content. This is how I do it.

Very nice Gilmour there!

Thanks man

Just by chance I stumbled on this video of Richie Castellano playing "Killer Queen" with his Helix in a band called Band Geek. Pretty darn good!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-CbxlXVA-A

Pretty good hey !