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Sounds great!!!

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http://www.karaoke-version.com

I bought Glenn's custom artist set and gilmour set. I was massively underwhelmed with both. In my set up everything just sounds very similar. I do however appreciate the time and effort gone into making them and that's worth a couple of quid from my wallet. Iv been spending a huge amount of time creating Floyd tones, so much so I haven't actually been playing. I would never dream of asking for money for them. I did post one on here and asked for feedback. It's been downloaded a lot and no one has commented so I won't be sharing again. Maybe the only way people know how to show gratatude is with £££$$$€€€

I would like to see an emulation of a talk box which the vowel sound are changeable with the foot pedal. Until then I will keep using my exh talking machine

So here is my first customtone upload. Its for the Pink Floyd song Dogs. I've made use of SNAPSHOTS as well as Variax for the patch. Its been set up on my Tech21 Power Engine at home volume in a small room so god knows what it will sound like on the fancy FRFR stuff in a studio environment. I have Global Cuts at 70hz and 7.6khz respectively.

Where I can I have tried to stick to emulations of Gilmours gear. It may be easier not to but I enjoy the challenge.

Please let me know what you all think. It sounds great to me :wacko: 

http://uk.line6.com/customtone/tone/2589535/ 

Thanks guys, everyday is a learning day

Take the simple EQ and set a wide Q, frequency arround 700 and decrease db.

What's a "Q" 🤔

I run it in parallel after my amp block so half the signal splits to the guitar cab and half the rotary.

I need some help, I'm the first to admit I don't have much of a clue about EQ frequency, where to place EQ In a chain or what model to use etc. When using a rotary cab it makes the sound very mid heavy from what I perceive. How am I best to tame this. I'm guessing by using a EQ block after MOD block that I can switch in and out together as I don't want to adjust my amps mid control. Any help would be greatly apreaciated.

On the Rename Snapshot screen, press Knob 4 (Remove). This will restore the name to "Snapshot [X]."

Cheers dude your the man! Can that be achieved using the pc editor?

Thank you so much 😊 Wouldn't it be great if line6 produced a users guide for the fx with some info on all the individual settings, I'm sure they did for the HD/M.

I didn't explain myself very well at all. All I mean is to restore all the snap shots in a preset to there original names and states ie all copies of snapshot 1 but with the names in sequence and no changes applying when you change through them 🙄

Is there a way to clear snapshots back to snapshot 1,2 etc without going in and manually renaming them?

I would imagine (unlike you I am guessing here) they thought that they did. Now I could be wrong so lets ask them.

 

Hey Line 6, did you model the best stuff for Helix In your opinion, or just piece meal it together and throw it out the door as some suggest here?

 

Hows that CBTL? Close enuff? ;)

My guess is that they modelled the same whammy as they did for the HD. I don't for one minute imagine they went out and bought all the latest/best vintage pedals. You make a very valid point, it would be great to know what they modelled, if anything. Did they just create the pitch shifter and call it whammy?

Its only inadequate for some when it doesn't have something someone wants. I wanted the same Helix for $99.00 and had to pay lots more. So Its "inadequate.... :P :lol:

I never said that the helix is inadequate, it's far from it. However some of the "models" within are not very good. If your going to model something model the best version.

Helix isn't supposed to be get everything for $1499, it is get a core of stuff and then use the 4 FX loops to add in anything you want to suit your needs. It is a bargain for what you get in the box if you compared it to getting the included stuff separately.

Why model an inadequate model? Would it not of made more sense to model the latest polyphonic whammy? No one product is ever going to meet everyone's every need, however, if something is worth doing then do it properly. You guys in the USA are lucky to pay $1499, here in the U.K. I paid £1299 which is a considerable amount of money.

It's sad you had to pay out $145 when you already spent $$$$ on Helix.

I've had several versions of the Mistress FL. Helix is nothing like it. Back in the day the Mistress was the only Flanger that would self oscillate in a musical way, most note worthy example I can recall is Robin Trower's Somebody's Calling and I saw him do it live. He used two Flangers one set to do the cool oscillation flange and another for tamer std use. I find the flangers, phasers, in particular in the Helix greatly lacking, The Deluxe Phaser is pretty good but the issue is probably digital, used to be digital could not compete with analog on modulation. It's getting better the Vibe and Chorus are pretty good but others just lack the depth and organic analog tone.

The continued need to copy old technology pedals using the highest modeling technology seems a study in anti-logic. Why not model a state of the art pedal if you have to "model" something. Maybe thought might be given to render Strymon level effects, Eventide, Source Audio Nemesis, maybe create a Flanger and a Phaser with enough tweaks to get musical stuff out of it than worry over copy mimic of some pedal that was never really all that great.

IS anything wrong with creating something that is not a copy mimic of something else?? Maybe modeling by its nature is just flawed concept of using cutting edge technology to sound old??? Nostalgia is what it is, a memory of things which seem far better than they used to really be.

I'll tell you if I could do it all over again I think I would go BluAmp and stay with the pedals I like. I hate the POD concept and all the really crap effects it has. If the Helix cannot be on another shelf I would just soon take the loss and sell it.

Some of the mods are very good, the phase 90 is exceptionally accurate. However, they will never be able to make digital sound analogue. It's like artificial flavouring, it tastes the same but a little something is missing.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Helix' Mistress is useless for emulating the sound of the original Mistress (but in fairness I've always heard later models of the Mistress are pretty useless for that purpose as well). I have two options for you.

1- get one of these and put it in a return/send loop: http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=4019 Don't let the miniature size, minimal cost, or country of origin fool you. This thing is awesome if set right (see video) and blows my Hartman Flanger away (supposedly the best original Mistress clone on the market). 2- Start with the Courtesan Flanger in the Helix. Then add one of the Rotarys and maybe even a phaser. Then play with the individual settings and mixes. This is obviously a DSP hog but I A/B'd it with an analog in the loop and I got something I was satisfied with. I can't give you the specifics as I won't be near my Helix for a while. Both suggestions will definitely get you in the David Gilmour "Pay My Rent" category. If you have a couple inches on your Helix board and $70, the 1st option will use less DSP AND you'll have the best original Electric Mistress clone on the market for use on an analog board as well.

Iv already gone down the rotary mix flange line, it works quite well but it's still lacking! Hopefully L6 will do a model of the original!? After spending £1300 on the helix I'm not looking at putting external fx in unless I really have too. The only thing at the moment making me do that is the lack of a talk box type effect.

And you don't think you can get the Courtesan Flanger to sound like that?

No you can't, not the original! It's not a million miles off the deluxe which it is a model of but it has a completely different tone to the original electric mistress.

Hell no, never have either! It's a very different sound to the deluxe. There are some good shoot outs on YouTube between the two as well as some clones

Has anyone found a work around for an original electric mistress flanger sound? The deluxe L6 have modeld is a world away from the original, it just doesn't have the liquid tone and is more of a jet type.