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  1. Hi there,


    I'm a very happy m20d/StageSource owner. Our band uses the m20D along with 4 L2Ms and 1 L3s for small venues. The ease of setup and musician-friendly controls are incredible. Plus the sound rocks as many here have attested.


    I'm a guitarist and I use a HD500 into a DT25 with the DT25's direct out going into the m20d.


    Between rehearsals I've spent a lot of time trying to match the tone coming through the speakers with what I get out of the DT25. I use the m20d's 20 second recording capability to play a riff, record it and then tweak the m20d's EQ as I listen to it over and over.


    What I've noticed is that when I use this feature it sounds like my tone is getting heavily compressed on playback - in other words it sounds thinner and has less high end than when I'm playing real time through the m20d and speakers. 


    Should I be hearing a difference? If so, does it have to do with whatever format the m20d is using for those 20 second clips?


    For reference we play hard rock so all of my patches use a lot of grit.





    My friend, that is my definition of digital modeled guitar sound!  :rolleyes:


    Very nice trolling about this at a line6 forum  :ph34r:  :D

  2. I have 2 open Monitor sends as well as 13, 14, and 15 inputs open.  Would I be able to do this with just the Stagescape or would I need another mixer?  I apologize in advance for coming off as a nube but I don't have much experience with mixing drums.


    Here Is how I would assume this is done.  I currently mic the Kick, Top Snare, Bottom Snare, 2 Overheads.


    1. Set up a stereo monitor for C and D.

    2. Send each drum mic to this stereo monitor.

    3. Plug a XLR Jack to 1/4 IN Plug from C to input 13

    3. Plug a XLR Jack to 1/4 IN Plug from D to input 14

    4. Assign Drum Bus Crush preset to inputs 13 and 14

    5. Send both the original mic inputs and inputs 13 and 14 to the Main outputs.


    Yes. I never tried that. But it should work that way. 


    Leave the monitor mode in "unlinked" (equivalent to pre-fader). so you can mix the compressed buss differently from the main drum channel. 

    Maybe not so much cymbals on the compressor? ;)


    Than raise the "normal" drums near the desired level of performance and start to bring the compressed drum buss up slowly.

    Be careful. Don't overdue it with the compressed bus.


    The drums should start to sound really full and punchy, but they will take a lot of space in the mix.

    And there's always the risk of ruining dynamics.


    Also consider that heavily compressed mics on stage will feedback super easily.


    This technique is very well known in studio mixing.

    Some people call it "The fat fader" 



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  3. Okay, just got off the phone with Line6 Tech Support and it turns out that Digital-sound is correct. Line6's intention for the Media Player was to act as a simple event DJ at your gig by playing music while the band sets up and/or tears down, therefore any playlist will loop indefinitely, even if it's just one song. The workaround the Tech Support guy at Line6 suggested is to create a second track that's long and blank, which will give me time to dash back to the pedal and hit it again to stop playback. I think I'm going to do exactly that, but I'll probably also add some sort of audio cue (like the sound of me tuning my own guitar) so that when I hear it between songs, I'll instantly think, "I'm the only guitar player, why am I hearing someone tuning their guitar when it's not me? Oh yeah, that's the M20D's media player still going, I'd better go shut that off."


    I did request that the Tech Support guy escalate this to the product manager for possible inclusion in the next firmware update so that looping vs. non-looping becomes a user-selectable preference for the Media Player. You can help by writing to Line6 and requesting it. I know when the M20D first came out, there was a thread dedicated to feature requests for the next firmware update. I'm not sure if that's still around, but if it is, that would be another good place to request. I'll look for it.


    Thanks again, everyone, for your help!




  4. This preset is a bit of a special case. It is intended for stereo drum sums (sub mixes.) When mixing this compressed submix with the uncompressed submix you can get a dense drumsound while maintaining some natural dynamics. This preset and the setup is admittedly a bit complicated.


    How to use that? 


    Get the drums in a stereo monitor send and put them back on channels 13-14 with that preset?

    This would be a very similar to the well known parallel drum compression widely used in studios...


    If it works it must sound nice and punchy. But it would take a lot of the boards connectivity... Two monitor sends and to line-ins extra just for the drums...

  5. I use my android phone for my backing tracks. 


    I've created stereo mp3 files with a mono backing track on the right channel and the click track on the left channel. 

    So I can get the backing track on the PA and the click track (that also has some cues) to the drummer's headphones. 


    But are you guys playing live with backing tracks without click track? 

    Never tried it, didn't believe it could work...

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