PeterHamm

Power Cable in ALL the way?

It seems like the editor is unusable unless the device is connected (I don't own one). Does the earlier version of the software allow offline use?

You are correct. No, no version of the Helix App ever allowed for offline use like the HD 500 editor did.

...I'm a 500hdx user and just thought that the 500 looked stronger, but the Helix seems to do the job very well....

You got to see them side by side. Helix is built like a tank compared to the 500, and the 500 was fine for me for 5 years.

...If it seems to flimsy but you want the sounds, get the rack and a cheap MIDI controller you won't have to worry about too much.

if you get the rack, do NOT get a cheap midi controller. The rack without Control is like a day without sunshine.

Seriously, this thing is probably as rugged as or more rugged than anything else you've had under your feet like it ever.

Is there a sound guy? Does he know what he's doing? If so, perhaps let that guy do the EQ for you to sit in the mix.

New submission. Please Upvote.

http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/A-Virtual-Effects-Loop-in-the-Amp-and-Amp-+-Cab-blocks/818552-23508

I wonder how much different will this sound than simply using an amp block and a cab block separately the way it is now?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I just wonder how much different it will really sound.

Indeed.  Thanks for trolling.  It's people like you that wake up in the morning and guage their life worth on a forum.  But hey, you're in the positive. So it should be a good day.

He is trolling...?

This would be made even better with separate Preamp and Power Amp blocks.

maybe, but the effect is close enough in my experience so far.

Go Amp -> Spring reverb -> cabinet... it sounds like it should.

I usually do the amp and cab as separate blocks and I'll stick the reverb after the amp but before the cab. When I want a reverb that sounds like an amp reverb, this works great. Setting it after the amp makes it sound too much like an effect and I don't like that (most of the time).

This right here.

Never... ever... ever... use the amp+cab blocks. ALWAYS separate them... It's like having an FX loop in your amp almost.

Thank you Mr. Obvious.... ;)

 

Yea I know- your welcome Mr. stupid.... :lol:

You...? NEVER stupid. Always interesting, though...

U do this on your computer in the Helix application (Librarian, now editor). There is a tab for Impulse Responses, you literally just drag your file to the slot you want it in.

Sometimes I'm so stoopid! The obvious escapes me on more than one occasion.

The obvious is never obvious until it's obvious, though. So... no, not stupid...

You can't change setlists using the footswitches. You need to use the Presets knob and joystick, or the editor.

If you need more settings than you have in one setlist for any given show... you have other problems...

...jus' sayin'...

And if you're playing live in a room with reverb, don't add hall or room reverb to get your sound bigger. It just mushes it up.

I only ever use special FX verb live, mostly particle and octo, with a high mix.

I like the particle verb in Helix better than HD 500, but I admit, I think I liked the Octo in HD 500 a little better. but just a little.

That's probably just a ground loop in your system.

That's surely what it is, and for the record, it happens on the Rack, too.

It's extremely subjective, but personally, I prefer Helix Rack/Control over the floor version, especially for live use. Duplicate expression pedal jacks, AES/EBU and wordclock in, other band members across stage can control their paths via standard footswitch, all FX-looped pedals are tucked away in the rack, the only cable on my part of the stage is a single ethercon (wireless otherwise), etc. Setup for three band members is all of five minutes.

Before I used the Rack/Control, I disagreed, but now I think you're right. The look on stage is WAY cleaner for me now than it was with HD 500. Easy to set up and yes, the only cable right by me is that ethercon cable (I'm not wireless, but my cable isn't a big huge deal.

Since the Helix does IR's, is there anything stopping us from using IR reverbs? That seems like a simple solution. I just got my Helix and have not had the time to try it, maybe someone here can give it a shot.

IR Reverbs are really long files. Much longer than the IR loading Helix does (1024 or 2048 samples), so no. Not verbs.

So, there it is, one update per month isn't enough for you. Okay, if that's your metric for quality, maybe you should simply go with the product that has the greatest frequency of firmware updates. (I kid, I kid... but...)

When I see loads and loads of updates, I have to wonder what they got wrong that they have to keep putting them out, or why didn't they finish the one before so that they don't have to make me constantly stop what I'm doing and update.

That's the other way of looking at it. I don't want updates until they are finished and compelling, and I don't want to have to change the way I do things very often. The sheer quantity of updates won't determine usability or sound quality or any of that.

at least im posting about making something better...

What would be the difference between adding 5 new amps and 7 new FX and 3 new compelling features in the next year... in 6 updates total... vs. the same additions in 12 (my guess is they'll be closer to 12)? Answer? nothing. I think you're only posting about how company A should adopt company B's business model in this regard. It has nothing, as far as I can tell, to do with making it better.

If Cliff starts releasing fewer updates, but adds the same number of compelling new features in a given period, I doubt many of his users will just jump ship and go with Kemper if they start increasing the number of updates.

A manual printed when shipped to retailer would be out of date to the current firmware before you even opened the box

Actually, no, because they don't update the manual each time (too expensive to update it in every language they produce it in). The manual has not been updated.

In this age of tablets and laptops and such... a non-printed manual makes gobs of sense.

That said, first thing I did...? Printed it out and put it in a little binder.

Then I lost it 2 days later and didn't look for it because I didn't need it... so go figure.

Thanks, Phil.

I really think this should be a global thing, don't you?

Can't really see a reason why you'd want a different pedal response on a different patch.

I can understand why some might want it, but I'm with you.

the million dollar question is...

 

If line6 pushes this with more frequent updates like fractal does for its customers. so far they have fallen flat with this.. imo

 

i find staying around 30% mix with the reverbs works best.

So the NINE updates in way less than a year so far isn't enough...?

Not sure what you're expecting—Helix has already received nine firmware updates.

I was hoping for more like 12... (just kidding...)

I put up my 2-amp patch audio sample on my Helix article. One of the amps goes from real clean to REALLY gritty PLUS you can add extra grit with a Timmy.

The video is uploading now, and will probably be functional before noon Easter Time.

The patch is already uploaded to the link in the article.

Don't know if it'll help, but it can't hurt.

https://pietrosquared.wordpress.com/helix-2-voice-guitar/

You CAN crossfade between two amps, but some amps have awesome cleans and amazing dirt both, particularly, my "big 3", the Matchless Jump (THE AMP!), Dr. Z and /13. The Z and /13 were in HD 500, too, and I used them a lot. WAY more useful on Helix.

I might make a patch to show this off for y'all.

I have the Helix Rack.  I've realized I'm missing out a lot without the Floor version.  Does the Helix Control add on provide all of the functionality of the Floor Helix (other than the Expression Pedal)?

Thanks for any info

Yes, but the real question you should have asked is...

Should anybody ever ever ever buy the Rack without getting Control?

The answer is no.

You probably should never buy another product as long as you live, especially one involving electronics...

beat me to that punch.