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  leprechauns?

 Today only...lol

 

And if you attempt to replace him with a balanced tension Leprechaun, you will void your warranty... :D

What's the alt-tuning like if I actually tune the guitar down to Eb anyway, so in essence that's the "standard"? Would drop D still work OK? ....obvioulsy I realise I can try this out myself, but just asking as I don't have my guitar in front of me at work !!

:D

 

Good question...only one way to find out. Given the alt. tunings' tendency to be tempermental when the guitar is physically tuned to E, feeding the tuning algorithm Eb might cause the guitar to leap to it's death. Don't try it near any open windows... ;)

 

And for God's sake man...don't touch the pickup covers! :P

Well, whether or not vinyl sounds better than CD can be debated. That all comes down to subjective experience, and there's not much point in arguing that. But from a technical perspective, the CD medium has more dynamic range than vinyl, and can deliver a better frequency response. A lot of it comes down to mastering. Recent mastering techniques have taken the dynamics out of music, and that makes music suck regardless of medium.

 

Forget dynamics...things like auto-tune have taken the MUSIC out of music. Mumble Ben Stein-style monotone into a mic, and POOF, You're a pop star.

 

Personally, when it comes to Pono, I'm not sold on the idea that a good CD is going to sound a whole lot worse than a hi res audio file. I also am not interested in switching to a format where each album is over 1GB. My prediction is that Pono may gain some early interest through this Kickstarter campaign (their goal of $800K was kind of laughably low, if you ask me), but I do not think it's going to make a big impact on the market in general.

 

You're right...not many will switch if it's really gonna take up that much space...you'd fit what, couple dozen albums on a 32 gig iWhatever? I've got hundreds of albums on there now. Once people get used to convenience, they don't  give it up easily. And I'm sorry, most listeners can't carry a tune in a bucket, and will never notice any difference in quality. Hard core audiophiles might flock to it, but the masses won't.

 

 

 

first four number tell you the year and month of manufacture. YYMM...So 1202 is Feb 2012.

Time Delay????? Yes - one nanosecond per foot. Not an issue. .

Careful now...lest you raise the hackles of the Latency Brigade, who will then tell you that if you can't hear it, your timing sucks, LOL.

I just started having trouble with the selector knob as well.  The top of the knob (chrome piece) will not stay in the barrel that is the model selector.   I don't want to use glue because of the push on/of function could be harmed.   Does anyone have any other ideas and possibly a photo or explosion diagram?  

 

This is no way for a new $1000 guitar to behave.   Elderly instruments will be hearing about this one today!

 

Thousand dollar guitar....1/4 cent Chinese plastic knob. You do the math....sucks, but it is what it is.

 

 

So you're saying go the LT route? For those that have an HD500x and a DT series amp, how close does the HD alone get to sounding like the valves in the DT?

 

This will be debated until the sun goes nova...purists will tell you that no modeling has ever [or will ever] come close to the real thing, others disagree. Lotsa good things being said about the Stagesource speakers though...considering one myself.

 

 

 

 

I had bumps along the way with the 59, but they were ironed out, and I changed my 69S's pups out with noiseless single coils, so I'm not afraid of working on my guitars, either..

 

My 2 cents...

 

Dave

 

LOL...and just the other day we were all advised to not so much as change the pickup covers, for fear of mucking up the works. So much for that.

 

Good point, didn't think about intonation - as its only noticeable when using Alt-tuning that may be a reason? Will check it out tonight. Thanks :)

 

Yeah...it's the one semi-"official" diagnosis that makes any sense. The tuning algorithm is expecting standard tuning input...if you're feeding it notes that are slightly off, I can see this causing a problem. It definitely isn't perfect. For laughs, load up one of the 12 string models, and then rake harmonics across all the strings at the 5th or 7th frets...you'll hear all kinds of funky warbling, pitches going up and down all over the place. So there are definitely things that confuse the software...the more DSP, the weirder it gets.

 

 

 

So, had rehearsal last night (first time in ages) with the band and it was the first time playing the JTV59 in a loud environment. My band usually plays in Eb so I left the guitar in E and used the alt-tuning to Eb. The E & B strings still had that "warble" sound to them. The bass player commented that it sounded like they were being put through a Leslie speaker!!

 

I then tuned the guitar itself down to Eb and played through the mag pickups instead. Sounded great just on its own !! I will reflash once more to 2.0 and if that doesn't work I'll drop down to 1.9 to see if that fixes it !

 

Lots of theories as to what causes this on some guitars and not others. Intonation could be the culprit if it's wildly off. It's worth a look. Not likely to be a 1.9 vs 2.0 thing...however, reflashing whichever version of the firmware you're running has fixed weird issues for some. These guitars get funky sometimes.

 

copied from this thread:

 

http://line6.com/support/topic/2121-variax-20-spank-bug/page-3?hl=%2Bstrat+%2Bposition+%2Bfix&do=findComment&comment=13729

 

 

Hello,

 

Just want to reiterate that we are currently fixing a bug in Workbench HD v2.01.0 that can defeat the bridge pickup sound uploading models that use the bridge+middle pickup combination to the JTV. Users who have uploaded (even an unmodified) Spank-2 patch either individually or as part of a bank or bundle, will now have a patch which sounds identical to Spank 3 in that position.

 

Users who have not uploaded Spank-2 to the guitar via workbench will have the correct bridge+middle model based on the 1959 Stratocaster in Spank 2.

 

Users affected by the issue can use the following workaround to repair affected patches or create new Bridge+Middle patches:

 

1. Begin w/ the desired patch loaded in workbench making sure that the bridge and middle pickup slots are turned on.

2. Choose either the middle or bridge pickup and note the position, angle, level and model settings of either pickup.

3. Select the neck pickup slot (which should be OFF at this point) and enter the settings noted in the previous step.

4. The bridge/middle/neck labeling for the pickup slots may have changed dynamically at this point, note which pickup is OFF.

5. Turn OFF the pickup chosen in step 2.

6. Turn ON the pickup noted in step 4.

7. Upload this patch to the guitar.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Line6Hugo

 

 

i just dont understand what effect i use in pod hd 500..

 

Right, a Wah on toe position.. but is'nt only this..

 

That's apparently it brother...toe down wah, then rake your fingers maniacally across the strings as if it were a giant steel-stringed exfoliator. It's all right up there in the video: "How to be an Ivy League Noise Maker".

 

Can't argue with that. I think part of the problem is that all the promo materials...videos, etc. make it seem like tonal nirvana is achieved just by turning the thing on, when in fact its a great deal more complicated and time consuming. Not everybody is willing to put the time in...those who are will find the HD stuff incredibly versatile.

Even if you were playing along with a recording, its unlikely that the tempo remains dead on 75 bpm throughout. Even witht the best musicians in the world there will be some variation, unless the drummer is an android. Thats why drum machines often sound sterile...they're too perfect. Some of the better ones have a "humanize" function that will deliberately introduce slight tempo variations, or occasionally have hits land just ahead of, or behind the beat, so it sounds more organic. Point is, I don't think there's anything wrong with your gear.

I have dealt with this issue on two JTV-69s guitars. I sent the first one back to Sweetwater. Second one I sent back to Line 6 directly for repair. Here are few suggestions.

 

1. Make sure that when you are listening to your guitar in alternate tuning that you put on good ear covering headphones and turn up the volume. If you can no longer hear the double (ghost) notes, then problem solved. If you can still hear them, I suggest you record the sound directly into Garageband or similar program. Line 6 will want to hear it.

 

2. Make sure that your pickups are not close to the strings. By that, I mean at least 10/64ths from strings to the pole pcs. According to L6, this can affect the sound coming through the piezo because of magnetic pull on the strings. Not sure if I subscribe to this theory, but they say it's true.

 

3. Make very sure that your guitar is perfectly intonated. If you have a strobe tuner, use it. I have found this really comes into play when you are using the "virtual capo" function to create your own tunings. It makes sense if you are creating a new tuning above and below the 12th fret, that they better be the correct notes. I had a problem with this until I checked my intonation. Once adjusted, it works well.

 

4. I agree with attempting to eliminate any extra vibration between the nut and tuners. I've also played with the idea of putting some thin padding between the saddles to prevent vibration transfer between saddles. I have yet to investigate that yet, but will.

 

5. If you have to send back your guitar to Line 6, INSIST that you want to send it back to the main headquarters. Regional repair centers may not have the same level of expertise when repairing your instrument.

 

That's it for now. My second guitar, after returning from a Line 6 repair seems to be working well. There is hope for you!!

1. Good idea.

2. I know thats what they told you, but it didn't make any sense then, and it still doesn't. If the mags were pulling the strings out of tune, then standard tuning wouldn't sound right either. And I still say that even if string pull is happening, it can't result in TWO DISTINCT PITCHES being heard...one slightly out of tune note, yes...but not two.

3. No argument there.

4. Made no difference for me, but your mileage may vary.

5. Glad its working, but what changed? When you first got it back you said the problem was still there...

Here is a great video with demonstration on how strings squeak.

 

 

 

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Is it me, or is this guy intensely creepy?

Mere mortals cannot achieve such a sound...He practices that in between reminding everyone that he went to Harvard, and droning on about injustice and his personal philanthropic efforts.

Wow.... people complain when they don't hear from Line 6 and when Line 6 does chime in to make a suggestion, it's followed by a smart a$$ comment. They can't win here.

First of all, it's called sarcasm...not intended to be taken seriously. But I'm sure the company appreciates you leaping to their defense. Maybe they'll send you a coupon.

 

Second, I'm a realist. I don't expect firmware updates every five minutes or a press release about future products every time their R&D dept has a meeting. Plenty of others whine about being "abandoned"...I've got better things to do. Generally, I don't think that L6 is any better or worse at customer relations than any other company I've dealt with. I like their products, and I'm sure I'll buy more. In fact, I'm considering a Stagesource set-up myself. At the same time, I've been around long enough to learn not to expect perfection or miracles from anybody. The instant gratification crowd doesn't seem to grasp that.

 

All that said...you gotta admit it is kinda funny that with all the issues raised on the forums, and as rare as it is for anyone "official" to say anything at all, when they do its: "The solution to your problem is to buy more of our stuff". And I'm sorry, but unless you have absolutely no sense of humor at all...thats funny.

 

There...I clarified. All better now?

In order for the tunings in the preset to be applied your JTV guitar Tuning knob must be set to Standard. If it is set to any specific alternate tuning that setting overrides the stored preset.

Doesn't seem to matter where the tuning knob is on mine. As long as the tuning I want is saved to the preset, it changes as it should. I just tested it to be sure before replying.

 

To the OP...Select the patch you want, and hold down VIEW button for a second or two. A settings menu will open. Scroll thru the pages until you get to the Variax tuning page. The default is set to Don't Force. Use the knobs to change it to whatever tuning you want, then save. Be careful with the following though... If you save the tuning you want to the patch, then at some point after that you change the guitar model and save again, the tuning choice will revert to standard. Its generally regarded as a bug, and a major pain in the a$$ until you realize why its happening. Hope that helps.

Was ready to pull the plug and get a shortboard.  Now am wondering whether to return this thing in time to try something else. Maybe try a HD500 or maybe just deal with my "vintage" AX2 2I2. Really not a bad amp.  The app is cool though and you need the "amp" to make it work, or now just a floorboard(?).  

 

Pros - easy to use, good sound, cool app....  

Cons - limited control while playing even a single song and other better options seem available (even the same option with the FX 100).

 

Difficult life decision here.  Help!

I know I'll get flamed for this, but the Amplifi imho, is not pro gear. While it has some cool features, its clearly geared towards the beginner. If you need versatility, there are better options.

Commercials now? lol...

You can't go directly from the Pod to a cab. The Pod has no power section, so it cannot drive a speaker cabinet. If you don't want a combo, or a head, you'll need a separate power amp. But no matter which way you go, be prepared to tweak everything all over again with whatever set-up you choose. Patches that work for headphones will sound VERY different through anything else.

Thanks for your replies....Its just a bit odd that these two Line 6 products have the same kind of connector on them and it does mention 'limited compatibility'....and yet there is no specific warning anywhere in the documentation or product videos that warns you not to connect them.

 

Sooner or later some angry user with a ruined JTV will file a McLawsuit...then there will be a warning label just like on the coffee cups at the drive-thru...

I think a lot of new players are ill served by starting with this or a modeler in general.  I think you need to start on the real thing and learn what the knobs and tweaks do so if and when you do move to a modeler you have a foundation from which to work.  Without that, too many come to find they have no idea what they are doing with all the options available with today's gear.  A good modeler can make life easier and improve workflow if you know what you are trying to do but coming into it blind its gotta be daunting.  Just a thought...

 

Yup. The marketing makes it sound like the tones of all your favorite players are just the click of a footswitch away, but it's never gonna work like that. It's a bitter pill for some...and for the novice who likely doesn't yet understand how much subtle nuance and feel contribute to one's sound, the straight-out-of-the-box experience is bound to be disappointing.

What I'm not sure of is whether its the noise from the actual strings that I can hear blending with the alt. tuned strings...

 

It's easy to get fooled by this...happened to me at first. Record something, if the the warble isn't there in the playback, then you're probably hearing the guitar acoustically. JTVs ring kinda loud. Little more volume, or headphones will solve it.

 

but that should hold true for all strings....

 

Not necessarily...it would depend on the tuning. For some tunings, not all the strings are being altered.