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  1. Sean Halley mentioned on his video on getting good acoustic sounds that they sound better played softly. Tried it and it worked. So  I thought I'd try the same principle across other models.  And I found that just about every one sounds better and closer to the original models if played gently.  As a result I'm trying to adjust my technique slightly.  It seems that digging in brings out the worst in the Variax possibly due to the effect on the piezos or possibly the complexity of the harmonics it causes. Does anybody else find this or is it my imagination?

     

    I think you're right...that worked for me too.  I suspect that the prospect of having to do that horrifies some players, though...lol. Bottom line is, these guitars are a very different animal than what we are all used to. I don't think there will be any universal solutions, though. Everyone approaches their instrument a bit differently.  As such, any issues encountered will vary, as will their solutions...from player to player.  Experimenting seems to the name of the game.  Tedious and frustrating perhaps, but anyone who wants to spend the time can probably find a work-around for some of the odd little noises that these guitars can produce.  I was convicned my guitar had something wrong with it at first due to some peculiar overtones on palm-muted strings when playing through any high gain amp setting. Only happened when using certain alternate tunings...once I realized that I could make it go away by slightly repositioning my picking hand (which I discovered COMPLETELY by accident), it totaly changed my perception of the instrument. Anything like that, which can be produced / removed at will, I can't call a "defect"...just the nature of what is really a very complicated beast.  With that much signal processing at work, there are bound to be some quirks...

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  2. It just occurred to me today that with the impending launch of their "new" amp product, I would imagine the various firmwares for the HD500 and possibly the JTV would need to be upgraded in order to accommodate the new gear. I am just guessing here, no basis in reality...

     

    My JTV arrives tomorrow, so I am both excited and nervous - knowing going into it that the firmware issues exist, I am resigned to certain problems being dependent upon a future firmware update. Of all the issues, though the popping noise is a definite "bug", I was also really excited to use the acoustic models. However it seems they have sensitivity issues, and playing technique must be adjusted and/or substantial amounts of time must be exhausted editing the device with a computer...

     

     

    I'm new to the party too...only had the JTV69 for a month or so. But I've logged many hours of playing during that time. I've found that most of the issues raised on the forum, including some initial problems I had, all boiled down to technique. Simply put, it's not a normal guitar...and as far as physical technique is concerned, some of the things that are second nature to anybody who's been playing for a lot of years may produce some odd sounds on this guitar, especially with the acoustic models.  Some might call these "bugs", but I'm not so sure that's a fair assessment. Quirks is a better word, because at least some of the problems that some folks are having, I do not consider "defects" as much as they are side-effects of the fact that the piezos are very sensitive. Any accidental string noises that would go unnoticed through a mag pickup are gonna stick out like a turd in a punchbowl on these guitars. If anything, it forces you to play cleaner.  Some issues I had with funky overtones on palm-muted strings, and the often lamented "boominess" of the acoustic models, I was able to make disappear with slight adjustments to how I approached playing the guitar physically. At this point, I can ellicit strange noises and get them to disappear at will. So a lot of these issues I think really boils down to the player.  Playing at all sloppy, or beating the daylights out of the strings, probably means you're gonna have issues. Just my $0.02...Your mileage may vary.

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  3. If I remember correctly - when I was on FW v2.0 - I tried to level the string volumes by ear and ended up turning them down between 1.5 and 4 db with Workbench HD.  When I adjusted them on v1.71 before moving on to v2.0 - I had adjusted the string volumes between 90 and 80 percent, under standard Workbench again trying to level them out by ear.   I recall that some people said they had dropped their string volumes by 6db or so under v2.0.   When I first experimented under v2.0 I noticed that the adjustment had to be 6db or more to easily notice a volume change anything less was really subtle.   It's easier enough to play around with - so maybe go for an obvious difference first and compare the models to real guitar levels through a normal amp - and if they are too quiet, then move them up a bit.   If you decide it makes no difference or not a significant enough difference that you like, then you can always reset them back to max.  I was surprised at the difference it made, I think the factory levels are too hot and it benefits from turning them down a bit, in a similar way to hurghanico's discovery that only using one input on the HD500 produces better and more realistic amp tones, tweaking the string volumes does help bring out the best in the guitar models.

    This might be a dumb question, but what do you mean when you say "using only one input" on the HD500?

  4. I'd seen Sean's blog entry!

     

    I also use 0.11's, always have on the JTV, and like I said before, the 2.0 or even those after 1.8 sound good to me when picking, but when strummed...jeez, not even close! They're so boomy, roomy...at least to me!

     

    I have to EQ a lot before getting the sound I want, and I still haven't got it right! I'm 80% satisfied...for now it's enough to keep 2.0, I'm sure I'll get it just right for me on the HD500 for the acoustics...

    I'd seen Sean's blog entry!

     

    I also use 0.11's, always have on the JTV, and like I said before, the 2.0 or even those after 1.8 sound good to me when picking, but when strummed...jeez, not even close! They're so boomy, roomy...at least to me!

     

    I have to EQ a lot before getting the sound I want, and I still haven't got it right! I'm 80% satisfied...for now it's enough to keep 2.0, I'm sure I'll get it just right for me on the HD500 for the acoustics...

    I hear ya...I had same issue. I've found that strumming needs a delicate touch..and when I say delicate, I mean barrly touching the damn strings...a 'glancing blow', if you will. Took some serious adjustment on my part. Not at all a 'natural' technique...I'd been doing it one way for 25 years...not easy to change gears like that...
  5. True - the noise will probably still be there - but reduced in volume and hopefully not as noticeable in the final sound.   I did reduce my string volumes a couple of months ago and found that the end result was that the models sounded better and more realistic - however - I have since had to reflash due to other problems and have not had time to go back and adjust the string volumes, and I have noticed that I get a lot of extraneous noise particularly when playing higher gain sounds and I know it's due to my technique but also to the sensitivity of the piezo's.  If I switch to mags then things are a lot smoother.  So I must get round to adjusting the string volumes again.    Hope it works out for you and gives you some improvement.

    How far did you turn the string volume down?

  6. To all those having trouble finding a good acoustic sound...chech out Sean's latest blog entry above. It deals precisely with this issue. And while many wont want to hear this, it may very well be a string guage and/or playing technique issue. It was for me...not only for acoustic models, but other problems I was having with weird overtones while palm muting the A string on high gain settings. The piezos are ridiculously sensitive...extraneous/accidental string noises that wouldnt come thru a mag pickup can result in some odd sounds with these guitars. And the acoustic models seem to require an extraordinarily light touch when it comes to picking and strumming. If you're used to beating on the strings as if it were an actual acoustic guitar, it will probably continue to sound lousy no matter what you do with the amp settings. I had to learn the hard/stubborn way...lol

  7. Glad you found the answer!   I have also noticed that the piezo's are super sensitive and pick up way more accidental noise than normal magnetic pickups.   Have you tried lowering the global srting volumes on the JTV via Workbench?  That may make them less sensitive to usual playing technique noises and more in line with magnetic pickups.  Might be worth a try.

    Thats worth a try...although I suspect it wont matter. Unless I'm mistaken, lowering the string volume will only affect the piezo's output, not the inherent sensitivity of the pickup itself. If there's extraneous noise being picked up, I would think that would still be there regardless of the string's volume setting. I'll just end up turning up the amp...I kinda think those adjustments are there to allow relative volumes of different models to be normalized so that the outputs are similar...but who knows, you might be right. Many nuances to this instrument, and I'm just getting started.

  8. Well, after much tinkering I sorted out the issue. Pilot error...lol. It seems that the nasty overtones were coming from the low E string, just from my hand resting on it while also palm muting the A string. I guess the piezo was picking up what little vibrations the low E was generating even though it wasnt being played. It takes a little manuevering, but if I stay away from the low E, all is well. So anybody else withh a similar issue, try repositioning your hand to avoid any unwanted funky noises...not something I'd consider a 'defect' in the guitar per se, just a side effect of a piezo's sensitivity I guess. Takes some getting used to, but its managable.

  9. Thanks for the ideas...I have already muted the strings behind the nut, but i have not addressed the bridge at all, so ill give that a try. Initially I thought it was pilot error...i figured some technique adjustment might be necessary to get the piezos to behave as close to a mag pup as possible, but it really is only present on certain alternate tunings. If it showed up on all of them, I'd be more willing to accept that it was just a limitation of the technology, but why some alt tunings and not others? It only affects those tunings where the low E string is tuned a whole step (drop D, drop Db, open D, DADGAD). And the biggest problem is the A string, which is not even having its pitch altered in most of those cases?? Who knows...

  10. Hey folks...newJTV69 owner here with a question. I seem to be having a issue with several alternate tunings, specifically drop D, drop Db, DADGAD, and open D ( basically all the tunings where the low E string is a whole step below where it would otherwise be). When palm muting open A or open D (4th) strings , I'm hearing some strange overtones. Almost sounds like more than one string is being played. It's terribly annoying, and almost makes drop D unusable. Disappears completely in standard tuning...1/2 step and whole step down are fine too. Anybody else experience anything similar? I've been dealing with Line 6 support. Did all the usual things...checked and rechecked the intonation, reflashed the firmware, etc etc. Any ideas? Thanks...

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