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  1. I still think these amps are the best, despite having been all but abandoned by Line 6. I think Line 6 is trying to sell the idea of modeling the full rig, and not sending mixed messages by offering tube amps anymore. Get it while you can. I have two DT-25's and a DT-50 2x12. You can probably negotiate a great deal. I got my latest DT-25 for $400 brand new at GC.


    The DT's sound great if you just plug in a cable and go, perfectly blending the guitar-amp-cable of the old school while benefitting from all the flexibility of great pre-amp sims and true tube power. What more do you need, really? Vox, fender, marshall, boogie, they're all there.


    While I am still pretty furious that Line 6 refuses to offer support with the Helix (and some BS explanation about not being able to tell us whether they are working on it or not), the amp works great when you run into the FX return with whatever you want to replace the preamp with if you want something else. There are probably other options out there but I still think the DT25 sounds as good as any amp I have played, take my modest experience with a grain of salt.

  2. Assuming you know about the $200 off promo: http://l6c-acdn.line6.net/data/6/0a06439ceca456feab6aaa231/application/pdf


    I think they're great amps. All the punch I need in the smallest package for a 1-12. I also have a DT50-212 and while I love it, it's so damn heavy.


    I couldn't resist picking up a backup at Guitar Center. They've had DT's on the floor for great deals, cheaper than used ones. I had seen one in there for $599 so when the above promo came online, I went in. They wanted $499 but I reminded them the promo was $200 off. After I told them I was only interested in having a backup and that $400 was my price, they finally agreed. They have been trying to unload these for a while. 


    So anyway, Sweetwater, I don't know. But if I got mine for $400 I'm hoping you can do better than $800.

  3. Taking the concept of a global EQ further, really I think there should be an independent set of input and output blocks that can be selected independently of presets. Maybe an EQ is good enough. I realize this affects the DSP budget but creating separate presets for different guitars seems impossible to maintain. Input block might vary per guitar, output block depending on where you are playing or into what system.

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  4. Hey all, i currently have a Ditto stereo looper pedal wired via the sends of the Helix, works great except that i get a drop out when switching patches. Any way around this? I want to use the Ditto as it is easier and has a great amount more loop time. Thanks!


    For me switching patches means the loop gets erased...

  5. 2.) disable all preamp cab and mic on all eight voicings on the DT25. I also set all eight to same class A or A/B and triode/pentode setting. Set boost to off on all. Disable mic model for XLR output.


    3.) set IA and IB to topo I. Set IIA and IIb to topo II. Set IIIA and IIIB to topo III. Set IVA and IVB to topo IV.


    Disconnect MIDI, connect L6link to Helix.


    Change to channel B on the DT.


    You will now be able to toggle between the four topology options, (and the class A or A/B and pentode or triode) on the DT.


    Does using channel B, and then manually selecting topologies, select among the (preamp?) voicings for I-IV? Or may some of these settings be redundant?

  6. I don't see how that makes any difference. It's not like they released a HD500 for $1500, they made something way better and priced it to match... The margins are probably in the same ballpark.


    I think the point was valid. I'd bet margins are much higher, just that Helix has a lot higher development cost to be amortized.


    I'm crossing my fingers that Line 6 strategy was to test the market with a high-end product that would be priced high enough to support a longer lifetime with improvements over time. Helix is a great platform, but seems to be missing too many important features to realize its potential.

  7. Ventilation and heat dissipation is an important issue when building a product like this. There's no telling how much margin they've built in to ensure all the components are kept within the specifications of each. All of these have margins and that can vary from chip to chip, unit to unit. I have seen products where they have convection simulations to demonstrate that airflow is generated and cooling is maintained properly given the placement of the boards, heat sources (semiconductors, etc.) and the vents. If you change a variable, the results are completely invalid. The hotter it runs, or the tighter the margins, the more you risk. So there's no telling!


    Thanks for posting. I too have mine on the carpet, I might need to put something flat underneath it.

  8. What garners respect is having a good tone being a good player! If you knock those two out of the park, purists will want to take a look at what you are playing. And they will be hard pressed to call your stuff cheap line 6 crap cause what they just heard is undeniable!


    Take that to the bank!


    Touche! But let's be honest, brand snobbery is very real, especially with vintage and classics.

  9. When and if my current rig (DT50/DT25/L2M/HD500 ) finally craps out and I am unable to get it fixed, I will have to think long and hard before I go down a new Line 6 rabbit hole. I'm just not sure that road of product development they are on is one that works for me. 


    The original Dream Rig struck a great balance of future tech and old school. All of this Amplifi and iOS integration tone matching and studio quality live sound is just not for me! Firehawk 1500? Really? 



    Well said. I've been happy to see how preamps have evolved along with technology and happy to upgrade. But as far as a power section, I can't see how there will be innovations beyond what the DT series offer nor would I need it to with the exception of maybe stereo. I suppose Line 6 is just not seeing enough sales. I assume that tube purists are sticking with the classic brands, which let's be honest, garner more respect on stage.

  10. Line 6 has a loyal customer base. I'm not sure they reciprocate. I think it's a big deal to promote the concept of a dream rig, but a bigger deal to abandon it without discussion. All of the people who were saying that Support is not a big deal are in my opinion just enabling Line 6 to abandon its own marketing and many of its customers. The message they are getting is that while there are a few whiners who kick and scream, the majority of its costumers will not hold them accountable to their long term vision and will even make excuses for them. So why would they behave any differently?


    Just know that if you buy a product from Line 6, count on less future support rather than more, especially since they're now owned by a company like Yamaha. I suppose we are lucky to even get firmware updates at all.

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  11. Sound sample https://soundcloud.com/douggie-p/helix-asylum


    Helix -> DT50 212 FX return -> budget condenser mic -> Scarlet 6i6 -> Logic


    You'll notice the mild distortion on the opening note. I've heard this really move speakers on nice tube amps in the past, but the dynamics aren't sneaking through. Maybe some level meters in a future version would help. I'm thinking I need to drop the signal level down into the amp model and maybe bring it back up before the output. Will keep trying.

  12. Out of curiosity, I did some searching on Google, for any notes on this. Actually found a thread from 2004, with the following insight:


    "The low E's are being doubled by a piano."




    That may be true on the record. I'm not 100% convinced though.


    Something's still missing vs the real amp, and I'm not sure why there's clipping. Maybe I need to try the Bassman...

  13. I've dialed in a really great Metallica Master of Puppets clean tone, with one exception. That first strong E note of Sanitarium captures how the real amp sounds, super strong yet lean on the low end. In my case, I get clipping and none of the strong bottom end. I addressed other EQ but can't get rid of the clipping nor the bass response I'd expect. 


    Anybody have any insight?

  14. I agree more generally. It would be great is there were a global mixer block that sat in front and in back of every patch so you could put volume pedals, noise gates, fx loops, etc across all patches.

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