Hedon09

Hi, 

I just wanted to share the latest tracks of my Band. All guitars and bass are helix native only. I'm still blown away by the results which are possible to achieve. 

I ditched all my real Amps during the last years and never looked back! Keep up the good work guys!

I can confirm this as a valid solution. I'm using my helix lt with an rca>xlr cable into the spdif in of my presonus studio68. Just don't forget to sync the audio interface to the helix clock and you're good to go. I use this for recording dry tracks in my daw. The benefit is, that my helix native patches sound absolute identical as me plugin into the real helix since i'm basically using the same input section instead of a different interface Preamp.

On 6/4/2020 at 1:25 AM, Hedon09 said:

yesterday i got a used dt25 for use with my helix lt at home. updated the dt firmware to 2.0 (took a little time for line 6 monkey to finally be convinced to do the update) and voila...dt topology etc. is controllable via L6-Link.

i use the preamp models in the lt and they sound really good and give a good amp-in-the-room-feel when used with the dt power amp via L6-Link.

now the channel a amp potis itself loose function when the helix lt's preamps are used (and i understand it's supposed to be that way) except for the master volume and the presence-poti (which behaves a little weird but at least does something).

since most of helix lt's preamps don't seem to have a presence dial modelled (makes perfect sence since it's normally a poweramp stage) is there a way to store the presence-value from the dt amplifier in the helix patch per preset and if so...where?

i can't find a parameter in the helix output-section where topology and the other stuff is located.

i understand that i could simply use an eq after the preamp to simulate a presence control but i'm curious if it's possible to use the dt amps internal presence and store it.

 

nobody?

yesterday i got a used dt25 for use with my helix lt at home. updated the dt firmware to 2.0 (took a little time for line 6 monkey to finally be convinced to do the update) and voila...dt topology etc. is controllable via L6-Link.

i use the preamp models in the lt and they sound really good and give a good amp-in-the-room-feel when used with the dt power amp via L6-Link.

now the channel a amp potis itself loose function when the helix lt's preamps are used (and i understand it's supposed to be that way) except for the master volume and the presence-poti (which behaves a little weird but at least does something).

since most of helix lt's preamps don't seem to have a presence dial modelled (makes perfect sence since it's normally a poweramp stage) is there a way to store the presence-value from the dt amplifier in the helix patch per preset and if so...where?

i can't find a parameter in the helix output-section where topology and the other stuff is located.

i understand that i could simply use an eq after the preamp to simulate a presence control but i'm curious if it's possible to use the dt amps internal presence and store it.

7 hours ago, BlueD said:

 

This is silly. Do you believe the Nolly models will not be included? C'mon, don't be obtuse on purpose, it's not a good look. OBVIOUSLY that's the codebase they'll be using, how could it be otherwise?

actually it is stated in the faq, that neurals plugins will be available on the quad cortex for those who already own a copy of them via a separately sent activation link for the quad cortex. so, no....if you haven't bought the nolly plugin it will not be on your quad cortex as far as i understand it.

Yes, i can confirm it's working. I use a Converter cable and i'm good

Negative...simple High Gain patch

Tubscreamer > Noise Gate > Mark IV > IR Block > Parametric EQ

I'm having kind of similar issues.

I run Native in Studio One Pro 3.51 with an i7-7700 Quadcore 2,8 GHz and 32 GB. Interface is a Presonus Studio 68 at 48 kHz.

Opening a blank session, only one mono-audio-track. CPU at 3-4%. As soon as I open a Native Instance the CPU jumps to 50% Minimum and is frantically jumping around up to 100% in peaks.

As soon as I turn of Native the issue is gone. Increasing buffer size helps but does not really solve the problem (still around 30% CPU).

Any Ideas anyone or do I simply have to wait for future fixes?

By the way, Helix sounds exactly like my LT and Helix Floor. Did a High Gain-Side-by-Side-Comparison. No audible difference. Looking forward to a fixed Release

I'd like to add my own Test Recording:

https://soundcloud.com/hedon09/helix-native-vs-helix-lt-high-gain

It's my first comparison of the Line 6 Helix Plugin and the Line 6 Helix LT with my Standard High Gain Patch

Tubescreamer > Noise Gate > Mark IV > IR Block with an Ownhammer Mesa 412 Impulse > a little Parametric EQ

1. Helix Native (Recording Chain: Hagström Fantomen > Two Notes Torpedo Reload > Presonus Studio68 XLR In > Presonus Studio One > Line 6 Helix Native)

2. Helix LT (Recording Chain: Hagström Fantomen > Helix LT > Presonus Studio68 SPDIF In > Presonus Studio One)

3. Helix LT Left + Helix Native Right

No Post EQ added. Both Native and LT used exactly the same Patch and IR. To me they sound, apart from slight playing differences, exactly the same.

thx for the info data,

 

since triryche said it's a temporary situation i will just keep calm and wait for a solution to show up. 15 days left until i start to worry :-)

 

oh and by the way, i too have both the native and the native trial version in the coloumn of my purchase history.

problem magically solved.

 Hi Hedon09,

 

Triryche, Line 6 Expert is looking into it. He thinks it may have been a glitch in the servers, as you may have noticed they went offline for a little while.

One thing that I spotted was – my purchase history shows both the Helix Native Trial and the Native for Helix Owners in the items column. it looks like the full version requires activation, but I'm baffled as to how to do that. If I try to do it through the plug-in it just takes me back to the Store front!

 

Oh yeah, plus I did a full uninstall, restart and re-install, but still the same.

thx for the info data,

since triryche said it's a temporary situation i will just keep calm and wait for a solution to show up. 15 days left until i start to worry :-)

oh and by the way, i too have both the native and the native trial version in the coloumn of my purchase history.

Ermm - well that was the very first thing I did after installing the plug-in. It authorizes Native for me (datacommando) but only as a Trial Version.

 

Oh, yeah! I have done a Deauthorize  etc. no change!

 

see pic.

same problem here....purchased native, logged into my line6-account via native plugin. native only shows a trial activation. authorization/de-authorization didn't change that

thank you, just a final question regarding that. on which voltage-level does the aes-port operate? will it match the spdif-voltage-specifications or will i need to use a kind of signal pad to match the spdif-range?

hey,

i'm considering the purchase of a helix lt. now i know that there's no spdif-in/out but the thomann-website states that the aes-port will work as spdif if correctly adaped. is there anyone, preferably a line6-member, that can confirm? is there a way to send spdif into the helix lt as well for reamping purposes or will i have to carry my helix floor from the rehearsal-room for that purpose?

thanks in advance and best regards

It took me 7 months of playing and coincidentally reading a forum post before i even thought about rethinking the level structure of my helix Patches. It's not a very obvious issue but thinking about it and making changes according to my findings helped my sounds.

That must not necessarily mean that there was the same issue in the patches from your video, that was just my 2 Cents

I'm not talking clipping the daw input or outputwise. Internal clipping in the helix signal path is what i meant. Lowering the Level in helix internal signal chain helped with my own Patches, might help with others too.

First of all, a big Thank you to ola for creating that Video. He definetely knows his high gains and therefore i think it's safe to consider the presented sounds as a good general image of what can be achieved with both units without digging too deep in all the parameters and tricks that are there. I liked the ax8 better in that video too, and I do own the helix since january.

Nevertheless i was wondering if the helix fizzines that is obvious in that video is a result of internal clipping. Unfortunately the helix lacks a clipping Meter (maybe in the next Version). I recently discovered that lowering the Level Output (-16db by default i think) of my IR-Blocks about 4-5db gives me more natural and rounder sounding tones. Since the sounds ola created have this kind of clipping tone that i was experiencing with my device, before lowering the Output as described it might be, that this might also help with Olas Patches.

After all, like ola stated, both units are good sounding and I doubt wether anyone except us gear nerds would actually care the subtle differences of both devices. I doubt that either the purchase of a ax8 or a helix could be legitimately called buying a lemon!

Hi,

just wanted to know wether anyone knows a way to do this. Basically, I'd like to feed a Stereo-Send from the Monitor-Desk to the Helix (for example the Aux-Input) and be able to listen only to this specific Input via the Phones-Out.

Is it possible to assign the Phones-Out this way? I wasn't able to do this up to now. Anybody?

If not, is there any possibility this feature could be implemented?

Will the New Amp Packs work via line6-Link with the DT-Amplifiers and will there be Preamp-/Full-Amp Models?