ronnief83

Super. innovative. way.

Used like 30 years already. :D

Chad is good sales man - he called well known technique "OTB" and everybody want to try OTB - "super innovative way to produce a very usable tone on the Helix without using CabSims or IR's."

like

"- Have you ever tried parametric eq as a speaker sim?

- Pfffff. It sucks. Why would I do this in IRs era?

- But have you tried Chad's OTB?

- Sure. It's awesome and very innovative!"

This article could help to tune eq block and turn it into "Virtual Speaker Cabinet":

http://www.guitarplayer.com/guitar-player-101/1025/get-smart-how-to-make-a-virtual-speaker-cabinet/49517

PRS Archon is GREAT.

Add some screamer as booster.

With proper Cab/IR settings you could have that "modern" sound.

Not sure about sound, but tuner is better for sure!

Gurgle gurgle and a gurgle tuner for the gurgle editor... 

There are SO many free software tuners out there, but people still want tuner in the editor. Why? :)

 

I mean I would like a high gain amp, like he did with the litigator (original) that is not from a previous series. Something entirely new for the Helix. 

Line 6 Fatality

It's Adriatic Delay for me. VDD is my second.

Same here.

Adriatic Delay is just awesome.

PS

I'm playing modern metal. :)

c'mon guys!

Do you really not hear any difference in your patches after updates???

All my patches sound way better after every firmware update!

;)

Simple rule:

Never ever do firmware update before upcoming gigs.

Easy!

If you want to give the people more tones to work with, then give them more  - or make more improvements - to the cabs...which incidentally, that section still needs a lot of work in helix....instead of giving them a sound they already have in a different box.

Line 6 gave us IR load capability in very first release - this is infinite possibilities for cab modeling.

 There is A LOT of overlap in helix amps. The majority of them sound the same.

Well, I have the same experience with real amps. ;)

The are few original schematics in tube amps world, everything else is just modifications.

• It's about to be 2017. What should we expect? Should we sell our Helix's before a disappointment at a future NAMM 2017?

If you don't like your Helix - just sell it, man, and let go! ;)

This thread goes on just because we do not have new firmware update ;)

I might be missing somethings in this topic...

So, the commercial patches exist because gas is expensive in Luxembourg?

:D

Not only the time is a cost, the experience also!

Exactly! :)

As for me - I like to share my experience. If I did cool patch for myself (or at least I think it's cool ;) ) it's a pleasure to me to share it with everybody.

And actually this is what I do for Ukrainian/russian speaking Helix community. :)

Many people post youtube videos where they explain how to build patches. (like Chad Huskey -

They are spending time on creating patches, they are spending time on video recording, narrating, editing, etc. just to share they experience with everybody for nothing.

Much appreciate their work.

When I started with Helix, I was really disappointed with factory preset.

So I decide to create by myself starting from zero applying my knowledge.

I was really satisfy of my Job, I made a live video of my band and many people ask me to buy the patch

 

All my patches are made expecially for live usage, with snapshot and real time effects.

I spend lot of time to create them and I think it is correct to ask a small fee.

Many people use my pacthes to learn to use Helix, they ask me support and modifications.

It is the same situation to pay for guitar lessons.

 

Bye

But patches are already DONE.

First of all you did it for yourself.

Why ask "small fee" for these patches? To compensate time which you spent on doing something for yourself? :)

It's not the same as paying for guitar lesson at ALL, as in case of a guitar lesson teacher spend his own time exclusively on you. :)

No offense.

Just don't understand this kind of thinking.

Keep global equalizer flat.

Tune patch using cut on cab.

Use global cuts in case you connect helix to acoustic system other than you used for patch tuning and in case you feel you need to cut something :).

I'm using approach from above video and it works GREAT for metal (well, I do not play anything else :D )

Just imagine your first snapshot is zero snapshot - and this is done! :)

Can you say where is the info is on where IR's use more DSP on Helix than the included cabs do? I haven't seen this information and assumed that the "cabs" included with Helix are nothing but IR's themselves.

I've read it there, mate:

http://line6.com/helix/blog.html/

Look for "Helix Hybrid Cabs" article.

here is a quote:

"We call the speaker emulations in Helix “hybrid cabsâ€, because they use a number of proprietary algorithms to reproduce the same frequency and dynamic accuracy typically seen in a 2048-point impulse response, but at far lower DSP usage."

roscoe5, that's not my video, I've just posted it here. :)

Your approach with mixing dual cabs by changing cab's level sounds reasonable.

I'll give it a try.

But you know that you can do this setting with IRs too? ;-)

Sure.

But IRs consume more DSP, they have to be reloaded after updates, you have to find the right one between millions of IRs available, etc.

PS

I use IRs though! :D

I'm using this approach for stock cabs now:

This makes them sound even better than IRs.

yes, you can use Bluetooth at same time.

I'm using iLoud with Helix at home and it works great.

I'm connecting iLoud to Phones output of Helix to have stereo output.

I'm using mono block like gain after dual cab.

But I'd like to have mono option :)