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On 5/1/2021 at 7:10 AM, mcentee2 said:
A helpful user on TGP mentioned that the real Plexi modelled in Helix had it's bright cap removed. This would explain exactly the differences I heard with the block vs my SV20 Preamp :)
Do you by any chance have a link to that thread / comment? Always interested in this kind of detail about the actual amps L6 are modelling, especially if there are little quirks like this.
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On 4/28/2021 at 12:14 AM, codamedia said:
I used to own a couple Hiwatts over the years and when I set the model in the Helix the way I used to run those it was pretty much identical. Tremendously dynamic, and a beautiful grit when pushed hard (which was really hard to do with the real amps).
Because the windows blow out, the neighbours call the police and your ears fall off :-)
+1 to the WhoWatt model. It's oddly under-rated and it is a monster. And it can be pushed to the limits without ending your marriage, jail time, windows on the lawn, bleeding stumps of ears etc. -
9 hours ago, Lynxpaw said:
That's not common sense, that's you making a wild guess. Try again.
One other possibility re the Stomp six block limit is to avoid thermal shutdown. Stomps are small, unventilated enclosures and they get *hot*. I think the way Stomp works is you either max out the available DSP or you can go up to six blocks, whichever happens first. Either way, this may be an engineering constraint on the amount of work the processor is required to do, which limits how hot it will get in use.
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Yes, agreed. In fact I now use the gain block rather than turning the input pad on. Decibels are decibels.
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On 6/12/2020 at 4:38 PM, codamedia said:
The first block in all of my chains is the "GAIN" block. It is extremely transparent and uses very little resources. With that block in place, you have the most flexible "input pad" at your fingertips.
+1
I used to use the input pad but now do this for the reasons you state.
IMHO the key point here is that there can be a need for input gain control depending on pickups / active guitar preamps. So long as that requirement is recognised and incorporated into the relevant patches, all will be well. If it isn't, then players may struggle to get the tone they want.
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There's a full list of all amps, cabs, mics and FX on Helix (and therefore Stomp) at the link below. It seems to get updated fairly regularly with the new stuff included in each new firmware release and is showing entries for 2.9 already. Scroll to the end for links to cabs, FX and mics:
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4 hours ago, Lone_Poor_Boy said:
That's why I refrain from posting demo's online of my gear. I'm afraid I'd be doing a disservice to the product. Maybe someday, when I'm an expert, but I don't feel like there is some void going unfulfilled.
>>afraid of doing a disservice to the product
+1
Humility is a vanishing art.
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1 hour ago, Lone_Poor_Boy said:
Honestly there's a lot of bad demo's of the Helix on the internet. Whether it's the preset, their setup or just how they recorded. Ben Vesco's are some of the best I heard though, before getting it.
There are indeed. Also lots of unhappy bunnies pitch up here complaining that Helix doesn't cut it, perhaps blaming the tools prematurely. My experience has been as yours: the amp modelling is excellent assuming that the patch is optimally set up. A big assume, unfortunately, as there are so many things that can go wrong, not least cab and mic choices. Anyway, very glad you hit the nail on the head first try, and thanks for saying so in public. Makes a refreshing change :-)
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On 3/11/2020 at 5:51 AM, thaw said:
Modeling, in many ways, is the perfect master volume amp.
Well put.
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6 hours ago, nbiglin said:
What pedals have you added to your pedal board on top of your Helix that was worth while?
Nothing. Hear what you say about a looper, but I don't use one so not even that. I need to get organised and sell my pedals. I've had Helix long enough now (over 2 years) to know that I don't and won't need them any more. I've learned through trial and error that if Helix doesn't sound 'right' in its replication of a pedal (or amp) then I haven't dialled it in properly yet ;-)
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Did not gel with that LW cover... :-(
But on a positive note, you could try this patch to get you in the zone. Neck pickup may work best, and ride the guitar volume pot for clean - > OD.
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What guitar are you using (looks like a Strat in your avatar, but can't really tell), what are you monitoring through and please post the patch(es) you are using. Otherwise very difficult to know what is going on... :-)
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@BlueD
Just following on from Phil_m, here's Line 6's Ben Adrian on how he created the Litigator model:
Quote(I'm pleased and surprised by the "Litigator" reception. I have to admit, it's fun to see the response when the amp is behind the virtual curtain. So, if you like the model and don't want to ruin the magic, you should stop reading.
We had talked about modeling a smooth-overdriving, easy to play, mid-gain, high dollar boutique amp for a long time. However, they can be expensive and hard to find. When you do find one, people get nervous that it will be partially disassembled and probed.
The "Litigator" was born out of two scenarios; one, I came from the world of building pedals and doing a lot of tube amp repairs and mods, and two, I was not constrained by making a model that matched a real world amp.
I asked myself, "what would I do if someone brought me an amp and wanted me to mod it into something smooth and boutique-y?" So I took a schematic for an amp that we had modeled and I drew out the mods on paper. Yes, it started from a Fender place like so many of the boutique amps.
I made the "mods" in the digital world, and it wasn't right. It didn't sound bad, but it didn't sound like I imagined that it would sound. I was disappointed in myself. So, I went a little further. I moved the tonestack to a different location later in the circuit. I also messed with tone stack cap values and ranges. Plus, I remembered that I wasn't constrained by the real world. I was able to dig into the low pass and high pass filtering before each of the gain stages. I was able to have the drive knob adjust frequency responses in various places in the circuit. Most importantly, I could fine tune the knees of how the individual tube stages entered clipping. I tuned the power amp to make it distort in an idealized way. Finally, I adjusted the sag so that it reacted in a way that was pleasing to me, not just matching what happened in a physical circuit.
So, the amp is not based on any specific amp. It's a circuit I dreamed up based on a heavily modded Fender and then hammered on and tweaked until we all liked playing it around the office. It wouldn't be impossible to make in the physical world, but it might get a little messy. I removed a lot of the noise and irregularities that people find unpleasant, but I was able to add just enough of the wrong things so they enhance without being a distraction. It's like a vintage amp with movie magic color correction and hyped depth of field.
I usually operate in a very objective world. If you like a physical amp, I hope that you like the model of the amp. If you don't like a certain physical amp, then I would not expect you to enjoy the model. I would say that a normal amp model is 95% objective and 5% subjective. The "Litigator" is pretty much 50/50. To be totally frank, I'm generally not a fan of the type of amp that this model is based on. I can sometimes make blues lawyer or yacht rock jokes in private. It's not that I don't respect the musicality, it's just that it's not my world or my wheelhouse. I was expecting to not really like this amp model when I was finished. However, even I couldn't stop playing it when I was done. I kind of sick-burned myself When it was built into test builds here at Line 6, many other people couldn't stop playing it. It's pretty much the highest compliment when I hear these stories.)
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16 hours ago, rzumwalt said:
I agree with the logic here, as far as it goes: If knowable facts are insufficient to determine an underlying truth, the most that could be reliably said with certainty is that the underlying truth is not known. However, consider that logic also dictates that there is some underlying truth which must be true, even if we do not know what it is with empirical certainty. It could be argued that not believing in something is by definition incorrect, whereas believing in something at least has the possibility of being correct.
That's Pascal's Wager. It assumes that a deity would actually reward such expedient calculation rather than punish it :-)
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26 minutes ago, jester700 said:
And we didn't evolve to be logical. We evolved to survive; thus snap decisions followed by justification.
We didn't evolve to live in a technologised, industrial, metropolitan society either, but that's what we got :-)
What worked on the veldt might not work so well in a democracy, which goes a long way to explaining some of the weirdness of the current era. Logic is an under-appreciated tool for parsing reality.
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28 minutes ago, rd2rk said:
So, if we're done with the nature of reality as philosophical speculation, and since 2.9 is STILL not here, let's move to science!
If the many worlds hypothesis is correct, then elsewhere, 2.9 will already have arrived and this thread never happened.
And in all universes where L6 updates exist, they are a gift that keeps on giving :-)
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7 hours ago, brue58ski said:
I'm back but got no time. I am sorry it stopped being fun. I was not trying to insult you or anything. Just a little philosophizing back and forth. But, ain't got time to do this today so you win.
All a misunderstanding I suspect. And you didn't 'lose' nor did I 'win' an open-ended discussion about the nature of reality :-)
Peace & love
BBD
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2 hours ago, brue58ski said:
A definition IS a DESCRIPTION of something.
Of course it is. And all I was ever trying to point out was that 'now' cannot actually be defined. The closest you can get is to define a space within which 'now' occurs (between the future and the past), but it is impossible to define more exactly than that.
2 hours ago, brue58ski said:I can't stick a pin in many things. Dark, light, musical notes, love, anger, etc.
Dark is the absence of visible spectrum radiation. Light is the presence of vsr. Musical notes can be defined by frequency of vibration. Love is the strongest form of mutual attraction, hate the converse, etc. These are all closer to the mark than any fundamental definition of 'now'.
2 hours ago, brue58ski said:The fact that you are arguing against it having a defintion means you've already started from a position that the definitions are all wrong
No, it doesn't. See above.
This was only ever meant to be a fun diversion into a philosophical kick-about while we wait for 2.9 to drop. It's stopped being fun, which is a shame.
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31 minutes ago, brue58ski said:
I just read another post of yours and I find this statement " psychotropic drugs opened the doors of perception allowing an improved view of reality " to be incredibly ridiculous. Improved??? I would use the word distorted.
Well, I read that as aimed at me.
4 minutes ago, brue58ski said:I can define it and I just did. You may not agree with me but I did and it is accurate. Have to agree to disagree on that one. Even though I'm totally correct. ;D
Here's your definition:
On 2/19/2020 at 4:38 PM, brue58ski said:Aha! Got it! Now is what happens right before it becomes was.
The problem here is that this is not a definition of now. It's a description of time passing. What I'm trying to get at is that while everybody talks about 'now' it is in fact impossible to define it. You can't stick a pin in 'now'. You *can* say it happens between the future and the past, but that falls short of actually defining any instant in time as 'now'. And since you cannot define 'now' then it is possible to argue that it does not exist. It's subtle, as I said at the outset.
3.5 is here!!. That's right. It's not 3.2 it's 3.5
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The new cabs...
Oh my.
Installation took ~15m and went exactly by the book.
Top job, Helix engineers. Top job.