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opps, my response deleted, not relevant to the HXE..

 

 

On 7/5/2018 at 12:38 AM, Vanilla_Icecream said:

I use a custom guitar type with 3 humbuckers and try to wring every possible analogue guitar sound out of this one guitar design.

 

One of these sounds involves running each humbucker in parallel with itself and parallel with each other, but I reverse the phase of the coil closest to the bridge on all 3 humbuckers, then use a resistor to lower that coil's output by 50% with respect to the other humbucker coil.

 

The result is an output that is about 75% the output of a single coil, and sounds awesome clean.

 

So I have to really boost this low-output thin sound and keep it clean and full. So I must use this pickup setting as my overall reference level that nothing else can be louder than.

 

Plus I must allow a 30% boost for leads, on top of this.

 

Plus I also use serial mode OBL L500B bridge humbucker in high-gain 2204 mod with 2x12 cab models, in same sets live.

 

As you can imagine balancing the levels as I change amps, clean to hyperdrive gains and pickup switched gain settings also, takes a few loud gigs to set for seamless volume changes.

 

I can do it by ear, but a HIGH RESOLUTION PEAK-HOLD METER would make a huge difference to tuning gain levels, and output matching patches, with the huge pickup-setting gain changes (my guitar has 14 DPDT pickup wiring switches, each making different input gain levels).

 

Peak-hold, along with a numerical decimal place display of the held PEAK value, is what we really need to get a useable output match before fine-tuning the level by ears with a band.

We need this sort of peak-hold tool, Line6.

 

Wow, would really like to see a picture of that guitar..

On 7/5/2018 at 11:16 PM, JerryWawak said:

Had I not already known that was where the save button used to be, I would not have known the current button was the save button.   I agree with the OP.  

 

Yep. Same here..

Operator error. I thought the updater was supposed to download it all.

 

Following the "clearly" written and "simple" instructions works much better...

 

Thanks!

 

 

that's what (I thought) I did?

 

I'll do it again...

I can only load the 1 Switch Looper from the hardware knobs via my Helix (now ver 2.60) - it is nowhere to be found in my Helix Editor (showing Ver 2.52). 

 

Weirder than that, once I load it to a preset, it doesn't show up in my Helix Editor in my signal path, but it clearly shows up on my Helix signal path.

 

Bug? 

 

 

Yep, I like Jason’s methodology as well. His template is my starting point for building patches now..

Awesome PerS, appreciate the share on the compilation. Well done sir!

Thanks for answering a great question..

When L6 brought over the legacy effects from the M series pedal boards, they should have considered bringing the M’s tuner as well. My M13 tuner is far more user friendly (stable) than my Helix.

On 3/1/2018 at 12:04 AM, Metalisgood9 said:

I understand why people love this thing holy sh#%!! I’ve been at it 9hrs now, so much you can do!

 

So I assume you’re keeping it :D

Not sure but I still do it. Doesn’t take that long. 

 

Then after that I still do the 10 & 11 to rewrite all the patches via the new update. Again, only takes a few minutes. Then I reinstall my backup. 

You say you basically played acoustic for 8 years, do you have a decent acoustic amp?

 

I only ask, because I was in sorta the same boat when I bought my Helix 2 years ago. Was basically just running it via my DAW monitor system and looking for an FRFR solution. Then it dawned on me that my Fishman Loudbox Performer was also a very VERY nice 180w line level PA system when hooked up from the back, bypassing the preamp. I can run it stereo in as well.

 

I’m no longer in the market for an FRFR.

 

 

I’m using the same two Line 6 MIssion Engineering pedals I used for years with my Line 6 M13. No problems at all with those.

On 3/21/2018 at 8:04 AM, Rewolf48 said:

Good idea if it works for you. I will offer my working method seeing as it worked so well for last 2 x 1hour set gig.

 I use an iPad and OnSong, and yes fiddling with the iPad is a right pain. OnSong is set to auto scroll on each song, but you have to start it scrolling and swap to the next song. I use a single patch for the whole gig, mainly playing an acoustic JTV model either fairly straight or chorused but sometimes a strat into amp and for 2 songs the overdrive gets a showing. We are playing Folk Rock. Snapshots are used for the 4 basic sounds and then various effects added when needed such as kinky boost for solo.

What I do is connect Helix to iPad with USB and dedicate the top row switches to controlling OnSong: previous and next song, start scrolling, stop scrolling, page down. Auto scrolling is great but we vary tempo and nothing is worse than getting out of sync and not being able to see what to play next.

The next bit is what really makes it work: in OnSong I set each song to send the Snapshot change midi commands. So as I press next song OnSong switches to the next song in that nights set list and it changes the Helix snapshot which in turn changes the JTV setting. Then all I need to do is press start scrolling in the count in. Then stop scrolling for the “hold on” and humorous interaction with audience.

Absolute minimum control inputs required! Almost as if I had a dedicated tech doing it all for me like the pro’s have.

 

Wow, that’s impressive as can be! 

I'll add one caveat to what Duncann said that helps me.  I sometimes make an edit(s) to a preset that is one I don't want to permanently edit, and I find the edited preset is worth keeping as a new preset.  If you're like me and didn't make a copy of the preset before editing it it, here's a simple way to do this.  Don't save the preset you have edited, but copy it to a new slot.  That copies the unedited original preset to the new slot.  Then if you save the preset you are working on, which should be the one you edited, and you have both versions of the presets.

Oh cool. Would’ve never thought of that... thx!

You don't need to download the .hxf file to install the update. You just need to run Line 6 Updater (make sure HX Edit is closed before starting it), and follow the prompts to send the update.

 

 

Yepper! ONCE I CLOSED HX EDITOR, it worked like a charm. 

thanks for all the replies,it will be in Tuesday thats when the real fun begins

 

either way, keep us posted...

Hey and welcome..

 

Not a metal player here, but I was in the same boat 2 years ago. I.e., I dropped $1.5k on the Helix not sure if it would meet my expectations - pretty much as did everyone else on this forum. My only advice is: If you can't get what you want out of it - send it back and get your refund. I play classic rock, blues, etc on both solid bodies and acoustic. After 2 years I now have 8 presets with multiple snapshots on each one to cover everything I do. 

 

My only problem with the Helix at this point is: I have 2 tube amps, 1 nice modeling amp, and shelves full of analog and digital pedals not being used.

 

Bottom line is: if you bought the Helix from a reputable retailer, you have nothing to worry about.

 

Enjoy the tweaking. 

That's right, updating now preserves your patches. Only thing is, you don't have any new factory patches. To get them, you have to do one of the resets that reloads the factory setlists, and after you do that, you WILL need to import your backup, skipping the factory ones.

 

Make sense?

 

 

Yep it do.

 

Just getting back from a trip a few days ago and basically updated the Helix via the Helix Updater Tool (Mac user here).  2.50 Helix, 2.51 Editor, and all of my old settings seemed to load up in one step after executing the file that the Updater Tool found for me. Then I realized that I needed to do the FS 9 + 10 to get the Factory presets for 2.50. Of course, after that I had to rebuild my Globals, Presets, and IRs using the Editor. I decided to reboot with FS 10 + 11 after all that to ensure my presets were updated to 2.50. Not sure it was necessary? But did it anyway.

 

Not complaining at all. But did Line 6 provide step by step guidance (as they always did previously) for the slicker/ gazillion times better update procedure? I couldn't find anything?

another M13 for sale  :ph34r:

My own are super esoteric and maybe not helpful.

 

But dial up those blocks,

First select the 3 Sigma IR that sounds best by itself.

set a lo cut in the IR block to about 90 or 100hz, and set the level to -6db

set the Tube Pre to gain 3.0, level 10, sensitivity line

Leave the LA Studio comp at defaults but turn peak reduction down to about 7 maybe

Set the parametric EQ to boost around 200hz just a teeny bit (I do 2db), cut midfreq at 2.7k just -2db, and boost7.5k about 3.5db.

Leave the Q alone in all three bands except turn the high Q down to about 0.1

 

See if that works.

 

 

OK, after a week or so of tweaking this routing, I agree, this works really well. As typical, I use two 3 Sigma IRs in parallel which covers some specific high and low freq mic types and settings. Pretty sweet direct acoustic sounds.

 

So Line 6 should build and add a few acoustic cabs - then using this routing config - they could easily provide a set of seriously nice acoustic presets built in and ready to go in the Helix.

 

Thanks again Mr. Hamm

My own are super esoteric and maybe not helpful.

 

But dial up those blocks,

First select the 3 Sigma IR that sounds best by itself.

set a lo cut in the IR block to about 90 or 100hz, and set the level to -6db

set the Tube Pre to gain 3.0, level 10, sensitivity line

Leave the LA Studio comp at defaults but turn peak reduction down to about 7 maybe

Set the parametric EQ to boost around 200hz just a teeny bit (I do 2db), cut midfreq at 2.7k just -2db, and boost7.5k about 3.5db.

Leave the Q alone in all three bands except turn the high Q down to about 0.1

 

See if that works.

 

 

OK, will set that up and see how it does. Pretty much those device settings are close to mine +/- here and there. However, running the IR into the pre amp might make the difference.. thx

I doubt it.

I used to love the acoustic guitar amp in the upgrade for HD 500, but my current Acoustic IR->Studio Tube Pre->LA Studio Comp->Parametric EQ is about a million times better sounding.

Is that preset posted anywhere? Would like to check it out. I own plenty of 3Sigma acoustic IRs. I’ve tried the Studio Tube Pre from every direction, IRs, EQs, etc. That pre amp model is a bit harsh for my ears.

 

Definitely up for some high end reverbs.. Thx!

There will some new amps in 2.5... :)

Any possibility that acoustic guitar amps would get consideration?