Posts posted by cloph
FYI: the app does remember the login, it is just that the server token does expire. That changed around the same time as the change in forums. And yes, this is a stupid programming mistake, that I hoped was solved with the recent update. At least the app could offer to relogin just as it does on initial launch.
See also the other post about need for logging in to access local playlist: That I think is also a stupid programming error, since you could access the jamtracks without login..
As for whether to buy it or not: Don't expect new features or more functionality than you get now. Buy it for what it is, not for what it could be.
You also might factor in the price for a footcontroller (of course depends on your needs, but really having a proper footswitch brings it to the next level.
As to whether there are still updates: just a couple days ago there was an update to the android app, so yes, there's still some level of maintenance.
And as to whether there will be a new hardware revision, see thoughts here:
bottom line (IMHO): would only be minor upgrades. Anything major and it would leave the Amplifi niche and go Firehawk (HD-effects) and thus be more expensive. And as mentioned: there is really no alternative at this price point that is that versatile (even if you factor in a footcontroller).
yes, in your iOS settings. See e.g. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7829660 so disable Apple Music Connect or Car Play or whatever it is called now. If you search google for "disable bluetooth autoplay" you can also find "creative" solution like adding a track with just silence to your audio library or uninstall the music app or make sure you kill it before activating the bluetooth connection...
First of all: the FBV don't have ethernet ports. It has nothing to do with ethernet, it just uses the same connector and cable.
So no, you can not POE to power it, that would likely blow some on-board fuse/diodes. (POE is using 48V while FBV uses 8V)
And even if it would: how would that give you usb midi controller capabilites for your stand-alone-device? How would you connect that?
If you plug it in via USB, you're providing power via USB already, no need for additional powersource.
configure your phone to not start playing music whenever a bluetooth audio device is connected.
3 hours ago, axlaxeman said:
so if I have a jam track playing on my mac and I want to record that plus my guitar, it won't let me?
It would be pointless if it would enforce that IMHO.
Either you would import that track into your DAW right away to begin with, or you would route the playback to your DAW as additional inputs and record it that way.
Or if everything else fails you could connect via bluetooth from your Mac and stream the track via bluetooth to have it in the Amplifi's output (but that seems pointless given the other options provide much better transport control and allows you to adjust the mix afterwards/do overdubs/loops,...)
And not sure where you saw 4 different configs, maybe those just miss the little asterisk that say the Amplifi 75 and 150 have that 5way system with a custom Celestion (which the 30 doesn't have)...
At least with the TT: audio streamed via bluetooth does get recorded, audio passed via the USB-Audio-interface input will not be recorded.
re major/minor. just have a listen. There's not way to see (but there also is no way to individually select tracks, so you download all of a genre anyway)
and re speaker: as it is meant to reproduce full range of the bluetooth/external audio: it is full range - and it is a stereo unit, so two sets of speakers. Not sure about the exact configuration (but I guess stacked to save some space) - why would that matter anyway?
Both should be equal. Might be that you cannot turn on/off compressor with the Shortboard MKII (or one of the function switches will do it).
The FBV 3 has 5 switches above the preset and tap switches, of which FS1 is always tied to compressor, FS5 is always tied to reverb. FS2, FS3 and FS4 are your assignable effects im amplifi, in "Stomp", "Mod", "Delay" order as indicated by little symbols in the app when connected (doesn't need to match the order as they appear in your signal chain, and also doesn't mean you cannot two mod effects and a synth for example - rather it means you can assign them to the footswitches as you please by reordering the effects in the app accordingly/assigning the desired effect for FS2 to the slot labeled with the "Stomp" indicator for example). FBV 3 has a Function switch, but that doesn't do anything with the Amplifi.
The Shortboard MKII doesn't have that additional footswitch for compressor, but has two function switches - one of which might toggle the compressor, not sure. But that really should be the only difference in terms of interaction with the Amplifi.
I finally understood what you're trying to achieve.
Amplifi as DI as possible:
→ create a tone with no amp, no cab, no effects. That is as DI as you can get
Record that DI:
→ route Amplifi's outputs to your record in on your DAW
Disable monitoring of guitar signal via the Amplifi
→ not possible
There is no way to disable monitoring completely. I mean with the TT there's no issue, as you'd just not plug in the headphones to the TT, problem solved :-)
There is no "parallel signal" btw. just because you create a effects chain that sounds like it was direct, doesn't mean there are two signals passing through.
That being said: doesn't mean it wouldn't be possible, after all recording as a whole/use of Amplifi as a USB audio device was added by a firmware upgrade – but with current firmware there's only one signal you can record, and for that monitoring is always enabled internally in the Amplifi.
There's a request on ideascale to add a way to disable it: https://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Add-an-option-to-enable-disable-monitoring-in-ASIO-drivers/839867-23508
Anyone who might now is likely under NDA and thus cannot tell, and everyone else is on the same page as you are :-)
Just with computers there's never the right time to buy stuff. But with a good deal I wouldn't see a reason why not to get it. (After all there's not much choice in this type of Amplifiers, you basically have the Line6 Amplifi and maybe Spider, the Yahama THR10 (cannot compete with 150W, limited effects), the Boss Katana (much more expensive) and the Blackstar (more expensive and limited effects) – so Amplifi gets you most bang for your buck I'd say. But of course depends on what style of music you play and whether you already have your favorite pedals/effects unit).
But let's assume that Line6 will release a new model: If it would have the HD effects then, it would be prices more like the Firehawk, so a lot more expensive (and then I'd not consider it as a update of Amplifi line, but new release of Firehaw). If it is just a refresh with minor updates (like e.g. usb charging port or additional i/o FX-loop or maybe a way to switch banks on the unit itself or integrated wireless like the Spider): would you be happy to pay the MSRP of the Amplifi for that, or would you rather save the money with the clearance deal?
I don't think Line6 will lower the price in a hypothetical refresh, as Line6 already is at the lower end compared to similar products. And Powercab alone costs twice as much...
yes, it will work as a midi controller without any other hardware. You might want to install the Line 6 FBV Control software to change what midi-commands the FBV will send to match what you need in your DAW or similar, but that's optional.
"Built-in IR" is kinda the wrong term for it. The whole point of the built-in speaker models is that it emulates the speaker itself, not a microphone in front of a speaker.
If you're using an impulse response, you're using it as a full range/flat response speaker. So if you already have a unit that allows you to load IRs, then there's no additional benefit in being able to load IRs to the powercab.
So no, switching to different IRs instead of switching to different emulated speakers is not the same. Using IRs is kinda missing the main/unique selling point of the powercab, mainly the "in the room sound" aspect. So no, a IR of a 4x12 loaded with v30s will not sound the same as using the v30 speaker emulation in the powercab. One is meant to give the sound as you get when you put a microphone in front of it, the other one as if you had an actual cabinet loaded with a v30 next to you. If you'd use it in flat mode and use the same IR, then yes, they would be sonically the same (or at least very close), but then you're just using it as a fancy hifi/PA-speaker, not as a guitar cabinet.
So bottom line is that the IR loading is geared towards people having an effects unit that doesn't yet support it to expand their options, but if you already can load IRs then this aspect is nothing that will give you more flexibility.
(disclaimer: I didn't hear a powercab in person yet, so all the above is from specs/info I read about - after all it is impossible to convey the "in-the-room" sound in a video-review or audio recording...)
Sorry, I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say.
This thread is about using the Amplifi as an audio interface for the PC (or Mac) by hooking it up via USB - so the "amp out" has nothing to do with it. (And even if I wouldn't know what you mean with "break the signal".)
You can play audio from your PC to the Amplifi and it will send that audio through its main outs/headphone outs along with your guitar signal.
The recording outs will just have your processed guitar signal.
Besides the TT does have RCA/line out, but using that to record would be pointless, as you would have to convert that signal back to digital.
The last thing indicates that you want to record the dry guitar signal, and that's not possible (closest you can get is with a preset with nothing in it, but then of course you *only* have the "DI" signal). Same for Firewahk.
But instead of getting the Yamaha THR-10 for that, you can also just get a DI box/signal splitter and a separate audio interface for less. That way you can record your DI/dry signal while still playing with effects from the amplifi (and could additionally record its amp out as second channel)
Or just use any other music app on your phone to stream the music - the amplifi doesn't care whether it gets audio via the amplifi app or by something else. Doesn't stop playback here when switching back and forth, although it will resync/redownload the list of builtin presets then - not ideal.
My take on this is that it is a stupid bug in the app, as I can access the (downloaded) jamtracks when not logged in. (and jamtracks by themselves are very buggy, no way to refresh the list, you have to delete and redownload...
Mine also doesn't light up, so I assume there are no LEDs in the bank up/down switches.
(Interesting fact: The Amplifi does send the led on/off commands for these switches nevertheless)
please don't post the exact same question in multiple forums at the same time.
Your tones should also be available on different Android devices, at least I have "My Tones" on both my phone as well as on the tablet.
However it might be the login/token expired problem paired together with bad UI..
I created a new tone using the phone, stored it to "My Tones" , all good, I can access it from my phone no matter whether I'm logged in or not/whether I have internet connectivity or not.
Couple days later I use my tablet, go to "My Tones" and it doesn't show up. So I drag down to trigger a sync → the animation below the tabs shows, but tone doesn't show up.
So I go to "tone search" and just do a random search →"token expired" message comes up, puts me to login page. I login and go back to "My Tones". Triggered the refresh again by dragging down and voilà, my new tone shows up.
So strange that it only works one way for you, definitely works both ways for me, so I get the tones I create on the tablet also on the phone. You didn't write whether you tried the drag-down-to-refresh method, so if not give that a shot.
And yeah, the app can be pretty annoying, but at least it does its main function OK, namely allowing you to setup your tone, edit effects parameters. That feature by itself is quite nicely done, I only wish there was a different visualization for the EQ and a way to easily A/B your modifications compared to the saved tone.
The annoyances starts when you navigate to different areas in the app, the ones that provide additional features. Then breaking the android design guidelines/expectations become a nuisance (although you can get used to them, just screw all navigation and always start from main menu by using menu-button/dag-from-left side of screen - a lot less frustrating that way).
And of course the token-expiry is a pain in the arse currently. (thankfully wasn't the case when I started out dialing in tones). Very annoying to always have to enter the login details despite them being saved in the app. Don't want to think of how many users changed their password to 1234 or something equally stupid just because of that :-(
No need to use Bluetooth once you created your tones. You can store up to 100 different tones in the device itself (25 banks with 4 presets each) of which the TT by itself only allows you to switch between the four presents in the first bank using the selector button at the front and doesn't allow to switch banks.
However you'll be using a footcontroller that allows you to switch banks, so you can access all 100 tones stored in the TT – no need for bluetooth/your tablet/internet connection.
As the FBV3 just is a controller with no mind of its own: easiest would be a "hardware fix", in other word put a cap over the button so you cannot press it anymore.
Not sure whether the dunlop rubber knob covers would fit/be sturdy enough, but you can also just drill a hole in some piece of wood and put it over the knob and glue it down (use the nifty superglue on painter's tape trick to be able to remove it again without leaving residue)
likely the login-token did expire .. See
so try logging in again and it should work definitely matches for all those terms (more than 30 for each, but at least the android app only displays 30 max)
The rather quick expiry of the login token also causes the auto-tone-match to fail/not get any results.. Kinda annoying esp. when you don't have a set of tones you like yet..
Besides the obvious difference (the FX100 comes with a "included footswitch and expression pedal") the only difference is in i/o
- the FX100 has an additonal (assignable) FX knob (the TT only has drive, bass, mid, treble and reverb and master volume/blend)
- the TT has additional optical out and additional cinch connectors for master out in addition to the 1/4" connection
- the TT has FBV connector
- the FX100 allows you to switch banks with the footswitches / the TT only allows access to 4 presets (to access the other banks you would have to use the Amplifi app or connect a FBV board)
Ampmodels and effects are the same, so both are equally suitable.
As to not committed: That's blown out of proportion/wrong expectations. If you don't expect to get new ampmodels or effects in those units after you buy them, then there's nothing wrong with the Amplifi series. The App could definitely need some love though, and recently there's a server issue that results in unnecessary re-logins. This might be annoying when trying to create new tones, as if there's too long idle time between saves to "My Tones", you need to reenter the login details.
That being said: this is no problem when dealing with existing tones/ones you already did save in My Tones or on the device itself.
As to what is more suitable: I got a great deal on the TT, so I got that. But later I just wanted a footcontroller, so I bought the FBV3 that cost more than the TT and now I'm happy :-)
- if you ever want to switch a preset within a song: get the FX100 (or TT+FBV)
- if you want to access more than 4 different presents without having to rely on the app: get the FX100 (or TT+FBV)
But also consider the Firehawk FX - that has better effects and is also more "stage ready".
FBV 3 is available at 169 € at thomann currently, the Firehawk FX is 333 € (and both the TT as well as the FX100 were already sold off/are no longer available)
- get the Firehawk FX if you can get if for a similar price
- failing that, and if you can get a good deal on the TT, then get the TT and the FBV 3 which will likely end up in the same ballpark (300€)
- get the Amplifi FX100 only if you can get it for significantly less than the 300€ / what the above options would go for in your area
If you rally don't need any switching / are fine with having just 4 presets and don't mind walking to the TT everytime you want to switch a preset: get the TT
Not still, but again, started around the same time with the line6 webserver issues/the forum update.
And more ridiculous is that the app does remember the password/login, but just uses it on first start, but not when it gets the "token expired". That is the really annoying part. And it has nothing to do with location or your internet connection. Just after x-minutes the token is expired and you have to login again. Thankfully not all operations require to be logged-in, but when you want to save a tone or want to use tone-matching it only works when logged in. Even playing locally stored music requires it (but only once, so if you go to my music right after starting the app, you can still access it even when the token has expired). Annoying for sure and made me rate the app in google play accordingly.. Maybe Line6 will react when the rating drops to 2 stars...
To be clear: the FBV controller has an expression pedal, but the Spider doesn't have a wah effect that could be controlled with it, so you won't get a wah effect by plugging in the FBV Experss. It might not even work as a volume pedal (not sure about whether Spider would read that value or not).
Switching using the buttons will work without any calibration process, that will work right after plugging in.
The expression pedals can be recalibrated in case they are not using full range, that is explained here:
But as mentioned: not sure whether the pedal will do anything in combination with the Spider II.
And no, connecting the FBV via USB to your Mac or PC will not enable you to play backing tracks. The usb-connection is only used to A) update firmware on the FBV and more importantly to B) use the FBV as a midi controller for your Mac/PC. So you could use it to control a midi-capable audio application to play/stop/forward/rewind (or similar things – you can configure what MIDI commands should be generated using the "Line 6 FBV control" application), but to hear it through the Spider, you would still have to connect it via the Aux IN jack.
While it is connected to the PC/Mac as a Midi-Controller, you cannot use it to switch presets at the same time though.
3 hours ago, lucyupton2003 said:
I was wondering if someone could help me? My 14 yr old daughter is a budding singer/guitarist, i have bought her a Line 6 Amp that has Spider II written on the front and a 30w Celestion speaker inside. […]
With the 30W Spider II you should be good - that has FBV support. (the 15W one would not be supported)
Note though that the pedalboard has no functionality on its own, it really just is some buttons to press by foot/provides an expression pedal (but as the Spider II doesn't have a wah-wah effect, guess won't be used with it). All sounds still would come from the Spider II.
The FBV express is used to switch between the four presets/channel you setup on the Spider amp.
To play back tracks from the mac, you would have to connect its line out (or headphone out) to the Spider via a cable. The Spider II doesn't have any wireless options.
In addition to the list of legacy/no longer produced gear, see https://line6.com/timeline/ for overview of all past/current Line6 products, and specifically
for compatibility information.
Does the FBV Control app work with FBV3
in FBV Controllers (MKI / MKII / 3)
yes, FBV Control works with the FBV3