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  1. 1 minute ago, Findlasse said:

    Thank you Sir! - this is what I want. I give it a go again. In my attempt to do so I had the mixer block at the beginning. I did not succeed in routing to either A or B for some reason - maybe it works better with the mixer at he end of the signal path.
    I am happy you say it can be done. It gives me relief to give it a go again! :-)

     

    If you can't get it to work, let me know. I can always try fiddling with it myself to see what works best. 


  2. 11 hours ago, Findlasse said:

    Thanks! :-)
    I may have expressed it unclear (I'm danish).
    What I am after is sound1 to fade out and sound2 to fade in - using the expression pedal from top to bottom. Sort of seemless transition. Is that possible to do with the HX??

     

    Interesting. I've never needed a clean sound to just fade . . . and to have dirt fade in, or vice versa . . .

     

    Still, my thoughts are yes, you can. Most obviously, it seems like if you tied an expression pedal to the drive of a dirt pedal it's pretty much fading in . . ..BUT it sounds like you want something a little more distinctive than this so . . .

     

    As you suggested in your original post, another option would be the two signal path approach. A clean signal path (Path A) and a dirty signal path (Path B).  Then tie an expression pedal to the mixer block at the very end. Set it to an A/B block, and have the expression pedal control the amount of A and B at any given time, with all the way down on the expression pedal completely shutting off A, and all the way up completely shutting off B. 

     

    If you move the pedal based on this it will fade in your clean and dirt depending on the position of the pedal. 

     

    This is just ONE way to get there .  .   . and it's block intensive, but still it might get you what you're after. In my opinion, the HX line's greatest strength, even beyond the quality of its modeling, is the huge routing possibilities. There is usually a MULTIPLE ways to achieve something. The challenge is thinking them up, and choosing the best one. 


  3. 1 hour ago, velaramon said:

    Following up. Is it better to use the output block volume or a separate gain block?

     

    That really depends upon the sound you're trying to achieve. Gain blocks will interact with other blocks within the signal chain to produce unique sounds/distortion depending upon what you have after it.  If you like that . . .  great . . .if not, don't do it. 

     

    In regards to the original poster, they were using an HX Stomp which has only 6 blocks. When I was using the Stomp, and because of that unique limit, anytime I could get away with using the output block OR some level option (such as on the amp) I would go that route instead. 


  4. 10 hours ago, rudomat said:

    that´s a nice idea, but it doesn´t work that way...the level adjustments are totally digital and after the analog input...that means, if it distorts, you´d only make the already distorted signal lower...;-(

     

    Are you sure you understand what codamedia is saying? He's referring to the level adjuster on the FX block.  If you set the Stomp's "left send" to line level, and you discover that that's too high, you can then use the FX block in the signal path to reduce the volume of the left send, essentially bringing it down to instrument level.


    The HX line has tons of level options within a signal chain for balancing all of this crap out. 

     

    It's been a while since you got the feedback above, what happened when you experimented?  Did it work? 


  5. Anytime you describe a sound it can be problematic because the question becomes if I am thinking of the same sound you are. 

     

    Especially the term "hum," as I don't usually use that term unless there's a problem (like from a ground loop). 

     

    Nevertheless, high gain presets will have a lot of noise when you're not playing. That's part of what high gain is all about. There is always sound happening around your electric guitar so even when you aren't strumming, electrical noise is happening and is being sent to the Firehawk. High gain amps heavily ramp up everything they receive with . . . well . . . with gain. 

     

    So even when you're not really playing anything, yes, there's gonna be a bunch of noise. One thing you can do to see if we're thinking of the same thing is use the Firehawk's noise gate, or place a noise gate at the start of the chain on purpose. If the noise you're hearing subsides a bit (not disappears, but drops in intensity), then yes, we're thinking of the same thing, and it's perfectly normal. 


  6. 4 hours ago, Findlasse said:

    Hi!
    I had a Vetta II earlier and it had a great feature. With the floorboard pedal in top position - I had a nice Police-like clean sound - pressing the pedal down to bottom position - the sound transitioned into a nice dirty sound.
    I tried to mingle with the HX to get the same option, but with no success.
    Thought it might be possible with 2 signal lines and then using the expression pedal to route to either 1st or 2nd signal path?.

    Is it possible on the HX effects??

     

    It's possible . . . I'm not sure it's the best way to do it. 

     

    To do what you want, you would need to connect the expression pedal to control some option that adds dirt. For example, pushing it past a point could activate an overdrive pedal OR it could increase the drive of an overdrive pedal. 

     

    It can be tempting to try to mimic an old way of doing things with a new device. However, I think the HX Effects has a lot better options. Snapshots are probably the best example, where with a push of a button you can change up to 64 settings in your signal chain. It doesn't take anywhere close to 64 changes to add dirt. 


  7. 1 hour ago, mritt said:

    Ah crap, sorry my bad. I should have said Helix LT. It doesn't have an AUX input. I will edit my post.

    Thanks for the help though ChasingMango.

     

     

     

    It would still be better to go a different route. Plug one of you into an FX return and put them on the second path.

     

    Your earlier way won't hurt it, but the above way will have unmatched separation of sound, and you can each set up your own signal chain.

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  8. 16 minutes ago, guitars69 said:

     

    Ah interesting to know.

     

    You're probably correct that they have not compelling interest to upgrade without running out of supplies.

     

    Too bad.  I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it.  You can now, but the options are pretty limited for the signal chain.  If I could run a full rig in Path A and another in Path B that'd be pretty sweet.

     

    Maybe. The thing is though, we always want MORE. Any processor created will always be able to have more power for one user than if it's split between two users. 

    Historically, what two users can do with a Helix now is pretty crazy (each can have their own amp block, reverb, delay, modulation, wah, compression AND distortion and in most traditional cases they won't max out the DSP). 

     

    However, BECAUSE we've seen how crazy one user can get with the Helix, we automatically wish that two people could do the same. For the next generation processor the same thing is likely to happen. You'll still feel like two users are limited, even if it's more advanced than what 99% of guitar players have done for decades. 


  9. 17 minutes ago, matthieus said:

    yes, I see 

     

    the problem is the FS4/5 jack in doesn't informations about status

     

    Kilrahi, do you remember which models of midi controller you think about ?

    Thank you

     

     

    The one I was looking at was the new Disaster Area Designs Midi Baby. It's a great size for the Stomp, and you have some control over the led choices.

     

    https://www.disasterareaamps.com/shop/midi-baby

     

    Edit: To be clear, the Stomp won't control the LEDs of the Midi Baby. However, if you knew what you intended to control with the Midi Baby, you could set the color of the Midi Baby so that you remember better. 


  10. One nice thing about the HX is that the FX blocks have their own volume controls which can allow you to subtly tweak things if the levels aren't quite right. 

     

    My advice would be to start setting the HX's output l/mono to "line" level. Leave everything else at instrument. If you don't like what you hear, then go in and set the HX send/returns to line. 

     

    Try that first. If it still doesn't work, well, come back and say what the problem was and we can experiment some more. 

     

    Edit: Just saw codamedia's advice above which I think is more explanation on the same thing I was saying too. Use a combination of these tools. It might take some adjusting, but you'll get there. 

     

     

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  11. 12 hours ago, ezut said:
    Now I have the opportunity to buy a Laney 80W acoustic guitar amplifier for a good price on the Helix LT.
    Has anyone used one like this? Will it be good together or forget?

     

    What defines a "good" price? $50 . . . hell, sure. $300? Ummm . . . you're better off going FRFR like is said above.

     

    I had a pretty wonderful acoustic amp. One day when I had nothing else available for amplification, and a bit curious, I decided to see if I could make it sing as an FRFR for the HX Stomp.

     

    It actually did much better than I expected. My conclusion was this can work as a budget option depending on how good the acoustic amp is, but if a Helix player had $300 for a FRFR or an acoustic you'd be nuts to get the acoustic.


  12. I've seen a few midi controllers that had a programmable LED. They were probably thinking about the Stomp when they designed it.

     

    However, even if you do find an external footswitch that has a LED, the Stomp itself doesn't support sending color coding to external footswitches so I think you'd be out of luck.

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  13. No there's not. You have to have a device connected to view anything in HX Edit. You COULD do it with Helix Native if you purchased that. 

     

    To transfer the presets to the Stomp you will need to reduce your block count and save that preset, then import it to the Stomp. This isn't necessarily as hard as it sounds even without Native. Simply edit it down to six blocks while the HX FX is connected, and then save that preset to your PC. Then unplug HX FX, plug in HX Stomp, and import that preset. 


  14. 2 hours ago, jasonmelani said:

    Thanks phil, I am using a morningstar MC6 to control perimeters.  I will try these midi cc messages. 

    This should be an easy fix for Line 6 to do.  But what do I know?

     

    That was one of my disappointments with the Stomp too in the midi realm. It seemed like it would be wise to have a preset advance or back off command. 

     

    Still, with the Morningstar, you have SO many control options that I don't think having the controller emulate FS4 and FS5 is a big deal.  The only thing you'd be missing out on is the expression pedal option, but you could leave that to the Morningstar too. 

     

    Still, another option that I liked even better was having the Morningstar have a button set to cycle stomp modes. From there you can use the Stomp itself, while in "preset" mode to move up or down presets, and in my opinion, it's very easy to do. 


  15. I'm worried I don't understand your questions.

     

    For example, on question 1, you're just wondering if you can have the HX wah before your "real" OD pedal? The answer is yes, use an FX block. However, in question 2 you mention the FX block which means you must know about them, so I'm thinking I don't get what you're asking?

     

    As for question 2 ... huh? I have no idea what you're asking here. You want to use a "real" modulation pedal but you can't because your HX Effects is already using a modulation block? That's how I understand that question but the solution is too obvious (remove the HX block) so that must not be what you mean.


  16. Nope nothing . . .

     

    If I HAD to guess, and again, it's just a guess, but I don't think it's going to work in the way you're envisioning it. For example, the Pod HD500x was once their premier modeler. Now it's their budget modeler. The Firehawk FX was less a new device and more a reworking of all previous models including the Pod 500x. So the budget modeler you're paying with now was, once upon a time, part of their premier modeler tech. That technology transitioned into the budget modeler once the next evolution had been released. 

     

    If they're smart, I think this is how they'll do it in the future. Someday . . . and I think it's a ways out, but someday there will be a top of the line successor to the Helix. At that point, rather than invent a new budget modeler with new budget model designs, they will instead have the old Helix transition into the budget model. Maybe they'll even do a new piece of hardware, similar to what was done with the Firehawk, that offers the older HX line in a new way. 

     

    That approach is what makes sense, and is a better use of their capital. 


  17. Definitely agree to the need to hear the actual sound.

     

    For example, in your first description you described it as follows: "second later there's like a static noise"

     

    This description sounds very similar to the "squirrels" phenomenon, but then later you described it as a "metallic hum" which doesn't sound at all like it.

     

    This isn't your fault. Describing sound is hard, but it's why an actual audio clip will do wonders when that's possible, or if that can't be done, posting the preset for others to try and mimic it.  

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  18. 48 minutes ago, rd2rk said:

    HARRUMPH...OK, MY CONCLUSION IS - I've been hearing this sound all my life, to the point where, to my ears, it's a natural part of what a live guitar and amplifier played in the real world sounds like. I don't doubt the existence of the phenomenon - like UFOs, so many people have reported it that it must be real, and to those poor souls who've been abducted and subjected to invasive aural testing by evil demon alien squirrels (EDAS), I offer my heartfelt condolences. I hope that somewhere, somehow, YOU TOO will find an amplified guitar experience free of the terror of EDAS.

     

    If not, there's always the ukelele......

     

     

     

    That's kind of my conclusion too. I''m a nitpicky perfectionist, which you wouldn't know by hearing me play the guitar. I've always loved music though, and when I was as young as 3 years old I'd lay in front of my parent's stereo speakers and listen to songs . . .  and hear strange garbled noises occasionally, randomly, it was clearly related to its attempts to play music, and yet it wasn't music I was hearing.  I didn't notice it if the stereo was loud and I didn't have my head up to the speaker, but obviously they were still there, just drowned out. 

     

    These noises bugged me, but I learned to live with them. Years later my parents upgraded to some much nicer speakers, and I remember I was excited that those noises would likely be gone. 

     

    They weren't. Still there. Still imperfect. Over the years I came to realize that that kind of imperfection seems to live within ANY attempt to produce sounds. Over time, I came to forget about them. 

     

    Fast forward decades later, when I first got the HX Stomp, one late night I was playing on headphones . . . and heard it again.  I wasn't expecting it at all and it irritated me in the same way it did when I was 3, but at the same time, I also couldn't help but conclude that IF they are in the original amps then surely they MUST be in the model. 

     

    Now, if I could snap my fingers and and make it go away, I would. I've heard some claim Fractal finally eliminated them (I don't know, as I've never had a device to study that intently), but even if they have, it's not worth me ponying that much extra money for it. I've heard some people say that what irritates them about Line 6's version is it sounds fake - they agree they're in real amps, but those squirrels are "done better."

     

    Without knowing why they're there, I really can't speculate.  Could they be removed? Do they sound fake (since the real ones sounded fake to me that's hard for me to fairly judge)? Is this the territory of the Helix 2?

     

    Bottom line - nothing is ever perfect. Helix comes pretty damn close, squirrels and all. 

     

    Hell, I'm just glad they aren't *?!@#!ing frogs. 

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  19. Yeah I get it they're controversial . . . but there's a very good chance it's what the OP is noticing. It depends on a number of variables (how close they listen, experience with gear in general, with multiple types of speakers, what they're using to hear their HX).

     

    To the OP, check out this thread. I found it to be the best example of the subject and it still has some audio examples up that might fit what you're hearing. If it's not, then at least you can dismiss this possibility and move on:

     

    https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/helix-tell-me-what-im-hearing-here.1826645/


  20. 1 hour ago, jorgealberto25 said:

    Not on single notes only when I play chords. For example If a make a bar chord and pick the last note of the chord (while holding the chord )a second later theres like a static noise. The noise is small but I will like it to be clean. If I take the effect off no issues. Is this a normal thing? I’m using an hx stomp and connect it straight to my interface using left mono output ( unbalanced cable). Guitar is a fender mim. I also tried the noise gate and same issue.

     

    It sounds to me like you're hearing the amp artifacts or what anti helixers commonly refer to as "squirrels."

     

    It's present in not just chords, but in all notes and it's more easily detectable in some amp models than others. 

     

    If I'm right, and that's what you're hearing, it's not a mistake as such stuff is present in real amps too, we're just not used to hearing our full blooded amps in the way we often listen to our HX. 

     

    Are you using headphones to monitor?  It stands out even more there. 


  21. I think it's a decent idea. I use a Spider V 20 sometimes and it works well.

     

    My assumption has always been to be profitable they can't be the MOST amazing FRFR and instead functions more like a "poor man's" version.

     

    With that said, can I claim I hear problems with it?

     

    No.

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