Kilrahi

9 hours ago, woggs said:

FYI, solved this over in a facebook group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/hxstompofficial/permalink/352242185655984/

 

Need to split with path A all the way left and path B all the way right. Put the cab in one of the two paths after the split. On merge, also pan path A all the way left and path B all the way right. I added an echo to the cab path to get obvious audible proof that the two were completely isolated left/right. The merge block:

 

The split block:

 

I'm not sure why the split block matters as the path in mono to that point. I think all this does is to only send the left along A and the right along B but this should not matter. And, even if the signal was stereo, I would want to mono mix of both left and right sent on both A and B paths. Maybe someone smarter than me will chime in...

Not necessarily chime in, but your answer was exactly what I was saying just above it.

All of the Spiders should sound pretty good at low volume, but if you didn't like it before . . .eh . . . you might not now. However, perhaps with the new firmware update it'll win you over.

I have to say this though, in many ways, it's just not POSSIBLE to have it feel right at too low of volumes. I've tried to play certain styles of music with heavy distortion, etc., and no matter how well it's reproduced on the speaker something about it just feels off. 

That's not the fault of the device though. That's the wonkiness that is my brain. 

Yes, you can add a volume pedal to existing presets. Start by adding the volume pedal block where you want it and see if it works from there. 

Yes it is. The HX Effects can do all of the split paths the Stomp can, it just can't do the amp effects. 

2 hours ago, mikeharris7 said:

Hi all - I have a strange issue going on with my Stomp. Whenever I have it plugged into the computer with the USB cord I get loud buzzing. Even more weird, the tone of the buzz will alter as I close or open programs or web pages. This is most problematic when editing or creating presets. I made sure the Stomp is not assigned to be my audio interface for the computer. I'm running Windows 10 on a Dell laptop that is a little older now. 

Is there a reason you aren't using the Stomp as your main audio interface?  That's exactly what it's designed to be.

Another thing to always check is to make sure the USB cable isn't borked. 

1 hour ago, frankencat said:

So is there a way to do this and how?

Well . . . yeah. We talk about the how a bit in the above. The manual also gives several examples. 

If you want separate volumes, then split the path at the very end. Use the Stomp's "Send" to transmit your signal to your FRFR. Use the Stomp's main left output to go to the PA. 

Or, if you don't need them to have different volumes, then do a mono signal chain and just use the Stomp's left/mono main out to the PA, and the right output to the FRFR. 

As someone who bought the official cable (admittedly with a coupon) I can at least verify it's high quality.

I've kicked the living lollipop out of that thing. Frankly, I have no right to it still working ... but it does.

Either cable works fine. Pick your favorite.

For whatever reason there's nights where I just fiddle and twiddle the whole night away.

As a matter of fact, last night I swapped the default cab on the A30 Fawn Nrm with the 1x12 Cali IV. Fiddled around once I got there and tweaked even more stuff . . . but I have to say, for me, I really like the results. 

Uh.... I got nothing. The Stomp really doesn't allow for dual instrument use without the hard panning (that was kind of an advanced use that pushed the Stomp's abilities anyway) and your use of the FX send and returns in the left channel kills any tricks for using those.

Are you recording both instruments simultaneously or something?

3 hours ago, darylb said:

Hmmm.  I use a DigiTech Trio+ which isn't just a looper pedal but has a looper function.  I just go from guitar to Trio to Amp and it works fine.  If I want the bass and drum beats that are available with that unit to not go through the amp I can run it separately through desk monitors.  I'm not sure why a looper wouldn't work that way.

 

It can totally work that way. Like all things, it just depends on the goal. If you put it prior to the amp, the looper can't have any of the effects applied to it from the Spider V. If you don't want that, then it's no big deal. 

As for the OP, I'm not sure why they can't get their looper pedal to work. It's hard to know what they tried. For all we know, the pedal is broken.  

The above ideas look like some more clever ways to attempt it. It looks like you got lots of options, which is always a good thing.

Glad to hear you're liking it. I think it's a pretty marvelous little device. The only problem with it is it always makes me dream a bit after the full sized units. 

I haven't run into any problems with the EQs . . .I'm actually pretty impressed with them, but I guess to each their own. The nice thing about the Stomp though is if there is some component about it you don't like you can always go back the traditional route and buy a pedal, and good EQ pedals aren't TOO pricey. 

You probably haven't gotten many answers because it's not a common request.

If you created a dual path, and on that second path put an "FX Return Right" block, you could then plug the mix into the "Return/Aux In - Right" port. 

From there, the challenge becomes how to hear it. If you move the split path block to the farthest left it will go on the HX Stomp, and hard pan the A and B paths hard right and left, and then at the very end mix the two paths BACK together but again hard pan them right and left, you might be able to plug into the Stomp's "Output - Right" and hear it that way.  Some caveats:

1. It might only come in one ear and drive you nuts. 

2. This is a complicated cluster of a setup and I could very easily be missing some fine detail that blows it all to hell. My experiments with dual instruments through the Stomp seem to indicate this could work, but I have no way to test it. 

Alternate idea:

While you lose the ability to activate the beloved overdrives with one button press (by activating the FX loop), why not just put the overdrives IN FRONT OF the Stomp?  

That does a few things for you.  One, it frees up yet another one of the Stomp's precious blocks, and two, it frees up the Stomp's FX loop.

With the loop free, it's far easier to do what it is you want. Here it should work if:

1. Split the paths again as before, but this time at the split send all of the signal to Path A with none going to Path B. 

2. In Path B place a "Return/Aux In L/Mono" FX block at the start of Path B. 

3. Instead of having Path B recombine with path A, send it out of the Stomp's "Send Stereo."

4. In the Stomp's internal global controls, set the headphones to monitor the Stomp's "Send Stereo" port instead of the "Main L/R."

5. Have your sound guy plug the mix into the "Return/Aux In L/Mono."

Doing it this way should allow you to hear the mix as you want to, and you'll have more blocks to play with. 

46 minutes ago, scottwilliams said:

Hi - 

 

Can I send the recorded loop ONLY to headphones for the drummer so he can hear it clearly without the live guitar throwing him off the beat? 

 

Thanks!

Yes, you could do that. 

9 hours ago, datacommando said:

 

If you need long layered loops then, the general opinion seems to be, the best thing to do is patch a dedicated looper into one of the send and return blocks. Gives you a lot more control and if you have a Boss RC-10R you get 6 hours of recording and a built in rhythm box, with 16 drum kits. 

 

Okay I hadn't heard of that pedal, and can I just say, now I am wishing it was Christmas time!

41 minutes ago, sami568 said:

My understanding is that the Stomp cannot be used to create an IR - Right?   So, is it then possible to import an IR into a Stomp that was originally created on and AxeFxIII?

Generally speaking, most IRs are compatible with multiple devices. However, my understanding is the Axe FX uses a proprietary format when it creates an IR that the HX Stomp won't be able to read. 

Perhaps someone who owns both devices will read this and can clarify in more detail. 

5 minutes ago, sami568 said:

Is there a way on the Stomp to display percentage of DSP used by the current preset?  If not, is there a chart published somewhere that indicates how much DSP the various blocks use up?  (So you can figure out how close to maxing out you are)    I guess if there are no elegant ways to determine CPU percentage, I could always try adding on a chorus to my signal path - if it accepts the extra block I am well within limits - if not, then I could try to add some less CPU intensive block and see what happens.  

Unfortunately, there's not an official one, but the link below SEEMS to be pretty accurate. I have no idea how it was calculated. 

http://benvesco.com/store/helix-dsp-allocations/

Ultimately though, as a Stomp user I've never needed to get THAT detailed.  You kind of get a feel for it very quickly, and at least for me, when I do run out of DSP I can quickly search for substitute effect choices that get me there. 

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Here is the minimum I need:  ROTARY + PREAMP + DELAY + REVERB  (with expression pedal for PREAMP VOLUME and expression pedal for ROTARY MIX)   Is this too much CPU for the stomp????  (I guess I could live without the second expression pedal if necessary...)

Hmmmm . . . this really doesn't sound like much DSP at all. First, the expression pedal won't take up DSP. That's a controller function, so you just connect the two pedals, and in the above, you're only using four blocks. 

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ALSO - Let's say you have a preset that uses 99% of your DSP.  You are playing along and you dig into a note - or maybe you wiggle your expression pedal quickly - is it possible that you might exceed your CPU limit and cause some kind of signal interruption?    If so, what happens in such situations?   Do you just loose reverb or something - or does the sound drop out?

 

Thanks again for the help!  I am looking forward to getting my HX Stomp via Amazon TOMORROW!  

No, it's impossible for that to happen. If the Stomp says you can do the chain - you can do it.  There's no risk while playing that you suddenly won't have enough processing power. 

5 hours ago, vinny_x3 said:

Hello !

 

It's impossible to install the 2.81 version on my HX Effects.
The current version is the 2.80.1, but when I try to install the last version, the process begin, and next, all the screens of the HX are empty, Windows 10 reports me that a device is unplugged (with a bip), and the updater gives an error.
I tried with an other ubs cable, directly on my pc (no hub), and this is the first time I have this issue.

 

Somebody has had this problem ?

 

Thanks in advance.

Did you carefully follow the firmware update instructions with the release of 2.81?

There really are only a few core steps in the following order:

1. If you care about your presets, back them up first. 

2. Update HX Edit to 2.81 FIRST. 

3. Once HX Edit has been updated, launch the Line 6 Updater, login, and update your HX Edit. 

I bolded the step I would verify you've done first. 

3 minutes ago, sami568 said:

Can I assign one expression pedal controller to amp volume and another expression pedal controller to chorus depth without using up blocks?  Or does each controller use up one of the 6 blocks? Thanks for helping a newbie!

You're referring to the HX Stomp?  I am a Stomp user. I love the thing.

No, controller assignments do not use up blocks.  In fact, that's one of the biggest strengths of the Stomp to handling its six block limit, you can do FAR more controller assignments than you could in a typical rig. 

There is a limit to the number of controller assignments you can have. I'd be shocked if you hit it though. I've never come close. 

7 minutes ago, solteroblues said:

Guys, brand new to Helix, just got my LT last Friday, and still quite staggered by the options.  I'm actually in the middle of comparing it to a Headrush Pedalboard, and have a question.  On the Headrush, it will let you load backing tracks directly to the looper, and let you play along that way.  Does the Helix allow that?  Right now, as I understand it, the only way you can play backing tracks through the Helix is by connecting your laptop (or phone) through the USB connection.

 

So far I'm really enjoying the Helix, it is lightyears ahead of the Headrush, but the Headrush has a few minor things that I wish the Helix could do (touchscreen not withstanding).

It would have to be an extremely short backing track. The Helix can only store . . .something like a minute of mono or 30 seconds of stereo in the looper. 

I may not be exact on those numbers, but I'm pretty close. Best way currently is through the USB port. 

1 hour ago, DunedinDragon said:

 I think most people who were fans of the Peavey have tended to adopt the Badonk as a better replacement.

I second the affectionate feelings many have towards the Badonk . . .

27 minutes ago, lemoulnierg said:

Thanks for your solution @Kilrahi !

 

 

BOSS also replied : I see that on your Line6 pedals there is a second effect loop unused for the moment. I think this would be the ideal connection to see how to integrate the SY-1 without changing your current wiring. You will be able to choose when the SY-1 intervenes via the Line6 pedals.

 

What do you think about his proposal ? :) 

 

That's a really good idea too. I have to admit, that's probably the BEST approach for efficiencies sake because then you can move the FX block that represents the SY1 anywhere in the chain. You could have it at the start of the chain, in the middle, at the end, and drop it in each spot until you find the tone you prefer. 

I always forget about the second FX loop option. I'm still kind of old fashioned in that when I use additional pedals with the HX I tend to want to stomp on them to activate them, and place them in order. 

Another plus of Boss's suggestion, by using the second FX loop, you can basically keep the SY1 on at all times, and then just push buttons on the HX Effects to activate or deactivate the loop at will. This results in less tap dancing, and better control over your whole rig. 

Edit: The ONLY downside is it eats up one of your HX Effects usable blocks (which probably is NOT that much of a downside - you have quite a few), and if you run the SY1 on batteries you probably won't want to leave it on all the time, but then that removes the flexibility of the one button FX block push. 

6 hours ago, spikey said:

 

 

It should work, but it doesn't. Therefore, it doesn't work. Whatda u want, a rubba biscuit?

 

; )

This whole thread doesn't work.

There, I said it. 

Granted I forgot to update my thread to 2.81 before attempting to read it. 

6 hours ago, lemoulnierg said:

Hi everyone,

 

I would like to know the most optimized cabling to integrate my new Boss SY-1 (see attached image)

 

Thanks in advance ! :)

 

 

Schéma câblage.docx

Well, honestly the answer is going to be a "that depends." With the depends being what you want to accomplish sound wise.  

If it were me, my first place I'd try to put it would be after the Output L/Mono on the HX Effects, but the Output R (why right - why not left?) of the Boss could be a good choice too. 

Those would be what I'd try first so that the SY-1 is hopefully clearer. You could still try it in other spots though and see. 

I get what you're saying.  The presets that are saved to the amp don't match the knob for the amp. So if you select "clean" on the amp it does NOT choose the clean preset. 

If the PC program still shows the preset though, this is an easy fix. Simple load that preset and save it to the amp. 

I don't have it with me right now so I can't walk you through it, but maybe later I can take a look.