zolko60

Skip the individual bypasses (unless you really need to use both delays simultaneously)
Delays parallel on A and B paths
Split A/B routing (A or B) - first footswitch
Common bypass - second footswitch
Merge.

On 11/29/2018 at 1:25 PM, zolko60 said:

What is the Hx Stomp power usage? Are there any specs published for Hx Stomp except weight and dimmensions?

1. <900mA@9V
2. No. 

XLR or TRS 1/4" jack. Shielded, high quality, flexible.

8 hours ago, Kilrahi said:

Considering how much the manual bugs you I guess I can understand that that ONE thread would drive you nuts, but there's plenty of other threads on here that make it clear it ain't happening in Spring. Hell, the fact it's past Spring makes it clear. 

The manual is irrelevant, but I stll believe keeping the obsolete manual written in 2016 after 2.80 firmware update which is changing Helix quite seriously would be strange. BTW almost all of published documents are obsolete, the Knowledge Base is hardly updated. If you want to capture some L6 leaks the L6 website is the last place to search. TGP and facebook are the media. Is it driving me nuts? I don't think so. It is just the kind of practice I don't expect from the company treating their customers seriously.
 

8 hours ago, Kilrahi said:

Beyond that, what exactly are you proposing we, the fans, do? No matter how you toss it, dice it, or slice it, it's completely out of my hands.  

To criticize the communication politics is nothing wrong. L6 has just a chance to listen and fanboys have chance to improve their justification and defence methods. :D

8 hours ago, Kilrahi said:

I'm WAY stoked to get the update, and I would have loved for it to come out on time, but because I think that:

 

A. Line 6's estimate of Spring 2019 was their best good faith estimate at the time. 

B. They're probably a bit disappointed themselves they missed it.

C. They REALLY were trying . . .
 

Because of ALL those things I named above, I just don't get the point in dog piling on them. What does pissing all over them accomplish? Like seriously, what does it do? Especially when there are plenty of other people bitching at them, there's no reason I need to pick up a torch. I am just going to sit back and continue to play my guitar. 

A. OK. So keeping that info sticked to the first page of this forum is justified when their good faith failed? BTW the 2.80 release candidate compilation was successfull and in time. After having RC complied and sent to testers, estimations could be made more responsibly. What about  "Avialiable 2019"?
B. If L6 is dissapointed so maybe by using empathy it is reasonable to conclude some of the customers could be dissapionted too? And then undertake some PR action?
C I can appreciate that. I can not appreciate the lack of proper communication. No drama involved. If I meet some L6 guy I can still shake his/her hand. :)

I haven't seen anyone pissing on L6. All I see is questions of either missinformed or disappointed customers and the fanboys dog piling on them.

44 minutes ago, phil_m said:

I don’t expect them, either. I just know they’re working on it, and it will be ready when it’s ready.

 OK. i buy it! Please (smbdy in charge) consider editing "Helix Firmware 2.80 (Available SPRING 2019)" topic to "Helix Firmware 2.80 (Avialable when it's ready)" or just to "Helix Firmware 2.80"

1 hour ago, manix1979 said:

My constructive criticism is just to change the communication politics. That‘s all. 

I guess L6 fanboys would justify and defence anything L6 does and abadon to do. 

2 minutes ago, datacommando said:

When you “follow” that article you can have it send you an email when anything changes.

Yes. Something has changed! The spring on the northern hemisphere has ended so that thread looks ridicolous not updated.

Let's say you have the preset with volume pedal, wah, whammy, 2 modulations, 2 dirt pedals, 3 amps, 1 IR (8 by snapshots), 2 delays, 2 reverbs and compressor. This is your basic patch for covering almost everything. Of course 8, 10 or even 16 footswitches can't contol everything separately, then snapshots come in handy (I can not see the point of loosing any switch in stomp mode for amps/IR channge).
Then you built patches for some specific tasks.
This is my way. I use 8 stomps/8 snapshots mode.

Let me see...
...AUX IN and other inputs still apear to be unbalanced.

OK, so you claim

3 hours ago, nikl said:

adaptor from XLR to TRS should do the job.

If this is the case, you do not have any TRS inputs in Helix anyway. Going line level balanced XLR to unbalanced TS line level will cost you 6dB, no unity gain.
Using G10S "Instrument Output" you can expect unity gain at instrument level Hx input/return.

I have seen a lot of mic pre equipped powered speakers: Alto TS series, QSC K series, Yamaha DXR series to name a few. Some exceptions are rebranded Alto TS sold as Headrush FRFR.
The history of DI is rich and "DI output" term is a part of the proud Sound Reinforcement tradition and corresponding vocabulary. ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DI_unit

You may be wrong because "mixing desk, audio interface, powered speaker, or similar" devices are usually equipped with mic pres and "DI Output" originates from DI Box which outputs mic like signal.
I agree that without specs it may look like guessing and experimenting. ;)

There is no specs for G10S. The manual claims there are two outputs:
4. Instrument Output - Connect to the input of a guitar pedal or amplifier.
5. XLR DI Output -Balanced XLR output for connection to a mixing desk, audio interface, powered speaker, or similar with DI level.
As I understand complicated technical terminology "DI Output" means balanced low impedance (200ohm), mic level (about -15dBu nominal) what work best with mic preamps  (balanced, 2kohm input impedance).

26 minutes ago, nikl said:

There is no "Guitar in" on the rear of the Helix Rack, which is the topic of this thread: which input to use on the rear of the device, not on the front of the device.

There is no such a label but electrically wise RETURN inputs set to instrument level are the same as GUITAR input (at 1Mohm) and set to line level same as AUX IN.

40 minutes ago, silverhead said:

. which only begs the question: "what is A/D converter clipping?"

OK. I do understand your point.
So why not use "There's really no rule; use what sounds best"  sentences more? You like digital clipping? - Go for it! ;)
If you know what is A/D converter, you know it can be clipped and "not clipping" means "rule". If you don't know, you will probably already know that only rule is "There's really no rule; use what sounds best" but you don't need the manual to tell you. :)
In the first case you can come to the right conclusion that if you are not clipping at input than replacing a pad with volume block is better solution. In the second you will convince other people to your opinion based on your personal experience and feeling.
I make only suggestions about what I would read in the manual. They are based on the threads I read, so maybe I am not the only guy looking for some serious treatment. 

BTW: Low level technical correction would look like that: 
"Guitar In Pad - 5dB pad for the hot sources that could possibly overdrive A/D converter (+11dBu full scale) . Does not change input impedance. Use DAW (DI input) peak metering to make sure it has to be switched on to avoid clipping.
 

9 minutes ago, phil_m said:

It would be one thing if the manual were only being made in English, but it's available in 25 other languages as well.

I can help in english and polish versions only. :( My russian is not very good.

1 hour ago, perapera said:

this means that returns are in general more appropriate as auxiliary guitar/bass inputs than the aux in !

Since active pickups output impedance is about 10kohm then the manual recommendation of connecting them to aux in can be a little bit controversial.

4 minutes ago, perapera said:

guitar input (no-pad, 1Mohm) > unity gain blank patch > master volume at maximum > Left Jack output "Instrument" is at unity gain (the input level equals the otuput level)

Yes, I can confirm that. All sends and outputs (TRS) set to the same level give the same results.
The returns set to instrument level appear to be the same as guitar input.

Thank you. That's great scientific work! I forgot to check what is the pad attenuation value on guitar input and what is the full scale value when XLR output is set to microphone level.

On 5/24/2019 at 8:27 PM, DunedinDragon said:

You do realize there won't be another manual update until 3.0, right?

No, I don't. If something is so outdated and can be better with a little effort, I don't see the point of waiting for 3.0 to update.

Page 52
1 Guitar In Pad "If your guitar or bass has active or really loud pickups, you may want to turn this on. There's really no rule; use what sounds best."

Correction: "If your guitar or bass has active or really loud pickups, you may want to turn this on to prevent A/D converter clipping"

There are lots of "whys" in case of Line6, but I think is it is common trend to save customers from "scary" knowledge nowadays.
The article you have found is interesting because that is the only trace of full scale levels values published by L6 employee.
It states what I can confirm: When the Helix outputs are set to line level, they are +4dBU nominal with approximately 15dB of headroom. Yes! 19dBu full scale.
...and claim something not true: When set to instrument level, they -10bBu. No! Anybody can make an experiment connecting output set to line level to DAW then switch to instrument level and check it is exactly 8dB lower what equals to 11dBu full scale (or -4dBu "nominal" with 15dB of headroom).

8 hours ago, krisjohnson22 said:

So the the "normally" very low level hiss inherent in any digital signal or DAC isn't so low relative to the much lower level instrument level signal being sent once the output is set to instrument. Basically the noise floor stays at the same level, but the signal is a lot quieter in comparison to it when set to instrument output.

I can not confirm that. According to my measurements S/N ratio is the same for AD/DA pairs set either to instrument or line level. Full scale levels change  (11dbu instr vs 19dBu line) but the noise floor stays at  -110dBA. 

9 hours ago, krisjohnson22 said:

So both the noise and the guitar signal are reduced by 20dB, but the guitar signal gets cranked up by 20dB before being output and now appears at the same level as before while the noise floor has been reduced to a level that is a LOT more manageable through a very high gain preamp.

The problem is you usually don't have 20dB of headroom. Typical PAF style humbucker loudest transients appear after 11dBu full scale AD converter at -10dBFS level so clean, undistorted 20dB boost is not possible without clipping.
This is why I am skeptical about your noise reduction solution. It reminds me dolby  but "a form of dynamic preemphasis employed during recording, plus a form of dynamic deemphasis used during playback, that work in tandem" is missing. While kepping close to 0dBFS can be a good advice, it requires constant monitoring and at least limiter protection.

That is awesome! The author is present on this forum and can consider the manual correction based on countless FAQs on this forum, especially with upcoming Helix Firmware 2.80 (Available SPRING 2019)

An anonymous manual author recommends usage of 1/4" TS cables. It is hard to figure out why. He does not claim outputs are TS. They are TRS impedance balanced.
Confirming they are TS after the manual, which does not contain any information about it, is misleading and deserves down vote.

5 hours ago, perapera said:

actually there is this interesting article by a line 6 moderator that contradicts the manual and says that all outputs on the Helix, including sends, are TRS impedance balanced !

What you find in the manual is "cable recommendation opinion", not specification. The manual does not contain any specs. You will find partial specs here:

https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360001021349-What-does-the-Input-Playback-dial-on-my-Scarlett-2i4-do-

Ask yourself a few questions:
Will i ever:
1. Need a mic preamp?
2. Additional inputs/outputs?
3. Read scribble strips?
4. Need ten stomps mode?
5. Need separate volume control for the headphone output?
6. Mind carry 1 kg more weight?
7. Use CV/Expression output?
8. Use SPDIF or AES/EBU inputs?
9. Use SPDIF output with no adapter?
10. Need a lifetime warranty for expression pedal or prefer more sturdy one with shorter warranty?
11. How much do you value each feature?
12. Is the total extra value worth 400€?
13. Do you have that extra 400€?
14. Would you spend that 400€ for something else?