dgtr890

I too have had this same problem and I think it's a software issue.

I think something went wrong with HX Edit

What I did was 1. rebuild the patches

2. Reset Globals

This was done AFTER the 3.61 update To Native and Edit. So far, so good.

Did You update HX Edit?

On 7/25/2022 at 12:30 PM, brue58ski said:

When that has happened to me, the patch that you switch to that the Helix freezes on is corrupted. to confirm this is the issue, after you reboot, go to a different patch if the Helix hasn't already, save the patch that may be corrupted, copy an empty patch and paste it in where the "corrupted" patch is. If everything works normally, the patch was the issue. Don't put it back in the Helix.

Try rebuilding the patch from scratch.

Choose Amp+Cab. Only uses 1 block or.

Choose Amp > Cab separately.

You can still use foot switches or snapshots to alter settings.

Stop forcing the rebuild. It only needs to rebuild once.

9 hours ago, spangberg said:

Is there any benefit over using an L6 link cable over a regular XLR cable when using the Helix floor with my L2 Stagesource?  I'm just wanting to keep it set to REFERENCE/ P.A. the whole time, I think?

On the subject, I'm hoping that the Powercab on order will give me more of a guitar amp sound rather than a monitor sound that I feel I'm getting with the Stagesource, but maybe a L6 link cable will enhance my experience?

A regular XLR cable would be 75 Ohms. You need an 110 Ohm cable because you're transferring digital data.

L6 Link cable is 110 Ohms. Using it with the helix you can store speaker modes.

The cable will NOT affect guitar vs. monitor sound that you get but, it will make setup easier.      Cheers

Thank You so much Line 6 !

Thank You Digital Igloo for your abundance of patience !

On 6/4/2019 at 5:22 PM, mritt said:

Some old farts like me are stuck in our ways unfortunately :)

 

What Peter said is correct. It's worth the time to learn how to use parametric eqs.

https://www.presonus.com/learn/technical-articles/What-Is-a-Parametric-Eq

On 7/22/2019 at 10:25 PM, dbudday said:

was wondering if they might add a 'notes' section to each patch - something that would open in HX edit.  Maybe add a 2nd line or sub line under the title?

And could be read/stored by both HX Edit and Helix

I am going through the same thing I have the Standard.

There seems to be an exaggerated top end with the VDI.

On 4/24/2018 at 2:50 PM, GeeTah said:

I have four different FRFR Solutions and - depending on the venue size - one of these works. BTW, all my patches are stereo which was based on my old 2 amp and pedal board rig. In all case with the Helix, I send the XLR outs to FOH and the quarter inch out to the FRFR

 

Option 1 - Large venues - Mission Gemini 2. Extremely accurate reproduction, works in stereo - large footprint and weighs 75lbs. 

What would you consider a large venue? Stage or Room size.

On 5/13/2019 at 2:58 PM, brue58ski said:

 

From my first Pod to now, I've always figured I would need to spend at least a full day with an amp to try and get what I can out of it. Saving whatever I thought was interesting and listening to them again one or two days later. Just to have new ears listen to it from a fresh perspective. It is time consuming but it's been the best way for me to learn really what the amps can do.

Great approach!  I didn't look at at it that way. Thanks for sharing

Volume/Pan > Stereo Width (Stereo), Line 6 Original utility to collapse stereo paths

Yes DI it's Line 6's wheelhouse. But IMHO the tones were not really on "Top O the shelf" with Kemper and Fractal until Helix came out  ;) AS always YMMV.

 

While I'm at it, if you add a few more delay's to Native like this, it would be icing on the cake...

Can't you already do this with the Helix?

Well, aside from sounding identical, will it feel the same? That's of equal importance to me. In fact, I can work around a different tonality and even not so great tonality if the feel is decent. It would be important to have patches created in the software version translate well to the hardware version but I'm not sure there's a way to guarantee that. For me, it's probably a matter of a few tweaks once you get it onto the hardware Helix. No biggie - to me. But what if... the software ends up sounding better than the hardware version because of superior interface electronics and design and/or superior A/D conversion?

What if I were using say, a Burl preamp and A/D converter? I'm sure that the Helix's A/D is not of that caliber. What would the difference in sonics and feel be?

I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps if you're not going use the hardware Helix as an interface then maybe something like the Motu Zbox would help on the impedance side of things. Assuming your are happy with your A/D D/A converters.

I got mine with 2.01 loaded and some things didn't work right until I did a Global Reset.

That may help.

Easy mate, I didn't realize you had the golden ear curse. Helpful for everyone to know, as the next answers will feel less like punishment to you with that context provided.

 

I was just trying to pre-answer your question "are you sure you know what latency sounds like?" by saying I do based on monitoring various parts of the signal path when recording.

I have Never experienced latency with this unit (pod HD500) using the unit alone. But I have experienced it when recording which is a different animal.

I'm a bit confused by the 8in8out USB though.   

Probably for recording

I just played a large stage/show

And after a great soundcheck … showtime No monitors …. at all.

Sound man asleep at the wheel  .. hey it's part of the gig!

From what I've read, most poeple have

had trouble updating while connected to multiple items.

Did you try this with POD + computer only?

If your running it as a main PA then,

What you would do is add an EQ at the end of your chain (inside the POD)

To compensate for the differences on your rig.

And not affecting anything else.

Cheers

+1 Pianoguyy

What I did was run the POD line level out and cut the bass 50/60 % on

the JBLs That helped a lot.

I know it's not the best solution but it might buy you some time

Cheers

I had a similar setup with the JBls

May I ask, are you running the  V-Drums at the same time as the POD?

WRONG WONG....I'm sorry to hear the HD series is probably EOL....WRONG WRONG I HAVE FOUND OUT THIS IS NOT TRUE. I'M LEAVING IT IN BUT PLEASE DISEGARD. but am glad it was said. I've been a Line 6 boy since the XT/Vetta days. Have I had my dissapointments and has Line 6 dropped the ball at times? Yes. Have I gotten my money's worth? Absolutely. But the HD series, aside from sounding good, seems to be a step back. Each POD, from 2.0 to the X3, seemed to always add more options aside fom the modeling. And with firmware upgrades, often added even more. Just kept getting more computer recording and output options.

 

Now with the EQ situation, no power switch, less ouput and computer recording options than before, etc. It's been a let down in some ways. I am not unhappy with my HD500 or the JTV69 I also own but I think I will sit back and wait awhile before I hop aboard Line 6's latest and greatest like I used to.

 

I still have my XT bean, XT Live, Vetta, Variax 500, UX2 auidio inteface and X3 live which all have what I consider to still be very good modelling. At the very least, I can pettry much get whatever I need and want out of them, and be happy about it. I haven't used anything but Line 6 for everything since I got my first XT and guitar wise when I got my first Variax so I think I'm good for now.

 

I have approx. (counting the pre HD models) 102 guitar amps, 39 guitar amp cabs, 29 bass amps, 23 bass amp cabs, six mic preamps, over 100 effects, over 50 guitars with the ability to create my own. Compared to what I had before I'm doing good. Will I get a sound exactly like "Insert name here" JCM800 or whatever else you want to conjure up. Sometimes, maybe. Can I get a sound that, from jazz to folk to folk rock to rock to rock & roll to metal to grunge, ad nauseum, is at worst tolerable and at best, inspiring. Yes I will and have. So again, for now, unless it's fairly mindblowing, I'm good and I'm done. (for now ;))

I'm with you on the "step back" in terms of options both hardware and software.

But, sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward.

That's how I see it.

Do I want the options that were available on the older products? Yes 

The sounds I am using now (HD) trumps the older stuff in spades.

That is way more important to me. I prefer Sound Quality over options.

It is not a perfect world but if you have tools you can work with to get your sound

then it's a done deal.

Also thank you  Digtal_Igloo for your abundance of patience. 

Some people on this thread don't hear what you're saying because it doesn't fit in

with what they're thinking.