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  1. On 4/16/2022 at 2:41 PM, droonster said:

    Did it right away. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and maybe there is an easier fix then sending off.

    Don't have the link, but you can try to reset the unit to factor settings, but if it's 'bricked'; not visible by USB because it crashed at startup, there's also a key shortcut to start the unit in debug mode by pressing some buttons during startup, you could give that a try, it if boots up, maybe you'll have some luck restoring factory settings or something.

     

    Been reading the forums for a while, and I think you're the 1st case of white screen I've seen here yet.

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  2. Wow good job so far!  Sadly, well beyond my competence!

     

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    compressed zlib size in bytes (size)

     

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    Archive Section Data

    The data part of each archive section seems to be obfuscated, compressed and/or encrypted.

     

    As it's firmware, I have absolutely no clue what anything would do; without even knowing the language, how it's used to interact with likely proprietary hardware/controllers/whatever, I would be absolutely zero help, really not my cup of tea.   When you're dealing with proprietary software/data, the formatting & bytes can be absolutely anything.  Some as you said delimited by indexes, set lengths, maybe pointers, honestly, I would have no idea how to go about reverse engineering everything ...!

     

    Hell, it's firmware, so as far as we know, it's compiled code formatted for Line6 chips, so there's no way to unzip or make any sense out of it other than de-compiling as I said earlier and recompiling...   Just not human readable/manageable data format.

     

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    I'm still trying to be able to rename the amps and stompboxes.

     

    Honestly,  you get used to the amp names very quickly.  LOL   Making your own custom/hacked firmware just do that.....................     Playing with JSON patches, sure......  But Firmware is on an entirely different plane of existence for difficulty!

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  3. On 4/7/2022 at 7:21 AM, BarkingSpiders said:

    I'm currently also trying to reverse engineer the firmware (.hxf file), as I'm still trying to be able to rename the amps and stompboxes. I managed to identify various chunks and archive sections, but I don't seem to recognize the used encoding for the various archive sections. If anyone here is interested in helping out, let me know and I'll post my findings on GitHib.

     

    How did you manage that?  What language is it even using?  Not sure what you mean for 'archive sections'.   The hxf is the firmware from what I remember right?  Likely is compiled, I know next to nothing about reverse engineering / decompiling / recompiling firmware, but normally, you'd need to decompile, modify the code and then recompile.  Just attempting to make changes to compiled code would likely not work, well, depending on what kind of software/firmware it is...  (pure guess here)

     

    The issue also is that every change you make might have repercussions; but yeah if you just change the label of the amp, that should not break anything... in the patches; references by ID seems like;  ex;

    @model
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    HD2_AmpPlacaterDirty

    but yeah anything else might cause compatibility issues between patches/updates...  Say you hack your firmware, something changes in patches or anything, next L6 firmware versions, will you be stuck and have to apply similar fixes/changes to make your patches compatible with the new firmware?

     

    Also, when comes time to pushing to the Go...  Again, far from being an expert, but there's been mentions of bricked units.  Modifying json patches is one thing, but firmware......  Even the patches, there's no guarantee that edited json patches will be compatible/work with next firmware...  It works now, sure, but if L6 makes some changes, who knows if such patches could cause issues ...

     

    Even for your 'hacked' firmware, depending on changes/compilation/whatnot, who knows what issues it could cause...  If you know what you're doing, ok fine, but if you're new at this, well, you have to start somewhere I guess lol

  4. What are you comparing?  Same amp vs same amp?  Different amps behave differently, so unless you're comparing the same amps...  

     

    Also, don't forget that with Go you're not emulating a guitar cab,  you're emulating a recorded guitar cab, so you're not going to get the same results as the same amp + cab in a room.  You'd be getting the same results as the same amp + cab as if you were recording it given a particular microphone.

     

    Also you may be experiencing placebo.  Lots of blind tests (ex; https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=helix+blind+test+) illustrate that the sounds are typically very very close.  Very experienced guitar players can usually still tell the differences, but I'm not sure most guitar players could.  Sure, most would likely claim that they could.  But under blind conditions, I'm pretty sure many would be surprised that what they thought they perceived turned out to be placebo.

  5. So yeah, maybe a fun project, but...  As a programmer, lol, I think it would be more just a fun project rather than a useful tool.  Maybe switching LED color automatically might be useful, but then you'd have to export and re-import the patches, so unless you can do so automatically, might not be super useful, as that would be a PITA to do constantly; ex; after creating a patch.  Proably less trouble to manually set the LED color rather than export, run tool, import.

     

    I think practically, you could change the default color values of effects, what is called 'favorites'.  Maybe you can even do it in a Go setting, can't recall if it's possible or not.

     

    But again, your best bet would probably just be getting used to Go's colour scheme.  Don't try to fix the world; try to fix yourself.  ;)

     

    But yeah, for learning programming project, could be fun!   :D   And later on, once you've learned the basics, then you could apply it to more useful features, not exactly sure what it could be for Go, but you never know, could lead to something!

     

    What I'd be interested in doing, if I had not already an overload of programming, would be to 'attack' PGO Edit, and add in features such as add empty blocks, maybe have a tuner, but yeah that would involve some decompiling and that's a far greater PITA than just modifying JSON...  There's likely an API for the Go also, so building up on that could work; likely something like using wireshark to see how Go/Edit communicate together might lead to 'easily' decoding the communication between the 2 devices, but then you'd need to re-implement a GUI from scratch, BUT, yeah, if you could say use the tuner from Go, etc., turn on/off effects, maybe something like having a 'virtual' Go controller; not so much to edit, but maybe just bind some keyboard keys to footswitches, controlling snapshots, etc., could be very cool.  But yeah, that's a lot of hours of work.

  6. On 4/1/2022 at 7:41 AM, BarkingSpiders said:

     quickly checks all volume settings,

     

    Problem is that there's no 'normalized' volume settings.   With a certain amp and distortion pedal, with ch. volume and master volume at 5 you might get ear bleeding volume, whereas another amp with the same 5 would be barely audible.  So normalizing volume by programming would be a very complex problem to solve.

     

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    or is able to force identical colors for certain stompboxes.

    That should be pretty easy.  Modern programming languages all have libraries to load and save json files, so you'd basically define the structure of a patch (ex; patch contains blocks which can be of type X which contain X value), then changing a value and saving.  So you'd just loop through patches and change the value depending on type. 

     

    Or, you can just code in particular values to loop through and if the name/type or contains said property, change X value inside this object

     

    For the pgp format, it's json.  So nothing particular to do with that, you just save the json string in a file with .pgp extension and you're done.

     

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    force all reverbs to be green and always in the 4th switch position.

     

    Yeah decoding the format to work with snapshots and all might not be as simple as I recall, just loaded a random downloaded patch and the snapshot...    Data contains a tone object, and this tone object contains a controller, footswitch, dsps and snapshots...   https://www.jsonvisual.com/  displays everything in easily readable format.

     

    I think for Go you'll always only have a dsp0 with values, as the Helix has 2 paths, but Go only has one, the dsp1 will always be empty.   So dsp0 contains your patch settings.  Snapshots obviously contains snapshot info.  Footswitch contains footswitch info.  Not sure what's the purpose of 'controller', probably more related to Helix.

     

    Actually no, I think 'controller' defines how the effect is controlled via the GUI of the Go; so if you select a particular reverb, that reverb will have have say 6 settings, 1st called x, 2nd y, etc., with values min 0 max 10, etc., so basically; defines how once loaded how everything is controlled.

     

    So if you modify block order (ex; put reverb last),  you'll very likely have to modify this section, otherwise you're likely to encounter errors or very strange behaviour as ex; you'd be trying to assign reverb settings to a distortion pedal, which could result in random settings or make the Go crash ...  Ex; controller 2nd element contains Block 3 contains HBE, dsp0's 2nd element contains block3 contains HBE related values

     

    But yeah to alter the footswitch position, that would be footswitch section, but not sure of the logic, they contain a @fs_index but many have the same index, (ex; 1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 9) so my guess would be that 9 means no switch, and you likely have fs_index 1-6 for the Go's foot switches.  yep, that would make sense.  the fs_label is even there, obviously from Helix, but again not useful for Go.

     

    So yeah, you'd likely just have to modify the index.  Again, programatically, you'll have some issues, as you might have to switch or change to 9 an existing block at the footswitch 4 position you're trying to switch an effect to, otherwise, 2 blocks for 1 switch.  What if you have 2 reverbs?  Etc..  Just some 'edges' cases to fix.

  7. Yeah normally the IR needs to be in a particular slot to work, as described in the patch description.

     

    I don't recall if the Go validates just the slot # or if there is also the IR name saved in the patch, and if both don't concord, error message.  Either way, if the correct IR is on the right IR slot, and when you open the patch you can see that the correct IR is selected, just saving the patch should fix the issue, and if it isn't the correct IR, just select the right one and save.  If you don't have dozens of patches to fix, just fixing them manually would be faster than wasting more time looking to fix/troubleshoot the issue!

  8. Normally you'd want a guitar amplifier with FX in/out and connect with 4 cable method, but yours doesn't seem to have FX loop...  With 4 CM you use your amp's Amp section using the Go's FX out/in, so your amp is in the right spot of your chain)  Or, you could connect to a sound system, something like stereo sound system, studio monitors, FRFR speaker, etc.!

     

    But yeah, you're getting double amp and double cab with the Go blocks on, and if your amp has any distortion then all Go effects will also get distorted...

     

    But it should still work, if you're getting 'buzzy' sounds, it could be indicative of an issue, but no idea really what 'buzzy sounds' is exactly so couldn't really tell you!  Make sure to run your amp as clean and neutral as possible, and you could try also just using the Go's Amp section and bypass the cab section, since you're using your real cab.

  9. On 3/21/2022 at 11:57 AM, pianoguyy said:
    On 3/21/2022 at 5:46 AM, Numbat said:

    I can run the POD Go into my JC40 via the 4 cable method with the amp and sim disabled in the signal chain.

    Then for those times when I'm direct, I can activate my amp and cab sim of choice. 

    It doesn't really work that way. 

     

    Create patches for use with an amp. 

    Create patches for use without an amp. 

     

     

     

    Why would it not work that way?  4 cable method = amp passes through FX loop no?  So you can run with that and disable the IR/cab and the amp, since you're getting your 'amp' sound from the amp, and the 'cab' sound from the cab, you'd be fine.

     

    Then when you want you can turn off your FX Loop block; bypassing the amp, and activate the Go's amp and cab.

     

    So yeah it should work that way, I don't see why it shouldn't!

  10. On 3/18/2022 at 10:09 AM, Dazzer40 said:

    I have connected a boss rc 500 looper pedal to the pod go and it records the loop i make but then i want to change the patch from the pod go  it also changes it on the looper pedal ,  just wondering if there is a way it can record the sounds without them changing ? 

     

    you can set your FX Loop block at the end of the chain, and connect

     

    guitar -> Go -> Go FX out ->   Looper pedal -> Go FX in -> Go -> amp or whatever

     

    or you can connect your looper at the end of your physical chain;

     

    guitar -> Go -> Looper ->  Amp.

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  11. On 3/17/2022 at 12:17 PM, tribal123 said:

    Same issue here.. muddy tones.. i'm totally newbie in pedal effects and in analogic settings... can someone advise me a low budget pedal tha can act as buffer to buy?

    Only external pedal owned is a Wha VOX v847 but i don't think that can act as a buffer...

     

     

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    Vox V847 Wha Wha

    Based on the specifications of the original pedal developed by VOX in the ’60s, the new Wah-Wah offers guitarists the same legendary tone with the addition of AC power capability and a buffered input jack for preserving the unprocessed guitar tone when the pedal is not engaged.

     

    Plus, if you're sitting down, you'll be able to use both the Go's wah plus your Vox wah at the same time using both feet, giving you double wah, the wahssibilites will then be endless!!

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  12. Have you read the manual?  Hum, ripple, etc., are very briefly covered there.  For some of the new effects L6 has some description with what the various settings do.

     

    Otherwise, this site has some details about a few effects;  https://helixhelp.com/models?categoryId=6   but often the settings are a bit generic and no info...  For instance, for compressors, the settings are somewhat standards so reading guides on compressors can give you the info you're seeking.

     

    You can also look at youtube for tutorials, I've linked a couple of useful channels in a thread a few weeks ago, but it got zero interest and is probably on page 2 by now.

  13. On 3/10/2022 at 11:59 PM, Eric2002 said:

     don't sound very clear and thaey dont have that "guitar punch you in the face sound" despite all the raving being sad online about this pedal. Honestly disappointed.

     

    Also, what are you outputting the sound with?   The speakers you use are critical for that.   If you're using quality speakers, studio monitors or FRFR you should be OK, but I've seen reviewers acknowledge the fact that it doesn't sound exactly like a guitar amp + cabinet in a room.

     

    And that's what you have to realize also.  The Helix/Go (and likely other FX units) don't try to sound like a guitar cabinet in a room.  They're trying to sound like a recorded guitar which you'd hear on an album track.  So by default, you're not getting that cabinet in a room sound.  So if that's what you're expecting, I'd think you can kinda get it, but that's not what you're getting out of the box.

  14. Also see the tone suck thread.  There's an issue wit the Go where if you plug in your guitar straight into the Go, it will 'suck' out the tone of your guitar, so you need some sort of pedal with a buffer between your guitar and the Go to get expected tone.

     

    The effect really depends on your guitar and playing style.  I didn't realize it at first, since when you add the Go's Amp, Cab or IR, the effects, your tone is changed by a lot, so the Go's 'tone suck' isn't that obvious.  Plus again, the more effects/distortions, the less noticeable it is.

     

    But if you just plug in a strat with clean tone and few effects that you're familiar with, that's when it gets really noticeable.  Pretty sure it's a defect/design of the Go, so you can't really fix it.  But yeah, it's like turning down the Tone knob of your guitar.

  15. 3 hours ago, voxman55 said:

    Do you have a router near your PGW that might be interrupting the signal? 

     

    Good point.  I assumed he was plugged in using a cable.  Does the issue only occur when using wireless or also with a cable?  When it's 'bugged', if you unplug the wireless controller, or plug in a cable, does it work?   Try to identify if it's just the wireless and Go works when plugged in via cable...

     

    You could also try  changing the settings for the cable + wireless, think there's a setting in Go to go from one to the other, so when it's bugged, if you switch the settings to cable, then switch back to wireless, does the sound come back?

  16. If you just want clean/transparent amps, you can just select preamp instead of amp, that will sound 'clearer' than going through the amps, so as you're not emulating the power section of the amp, gives a cleaner (more transparent) tone.

     

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    2. re straight into the front of an amp - would a 'blank canvas ' amp like an aer  (compact 60 ( it does have an effects loop as well))  give good results using the amp and cab simulators? 

     

    But if you're asking for amp 'amp' like plugging in a Marshall amp or AER amp or watnot, then you'd be better off using the 4 cable method and not using an amp in Go, since if you're emulating an amp and then running that through an amp, well, you've got double amps, which likely isn't what you want.

     

    And if you're asking if you should plug in front of an amp, well ... IMHO, no.  The amp emulation of the Go is one of its main features, so unless you really love your amp and just want to use the Go for the effects (which is fine), then you should be looking at Studio Monitors or FRFR speaker(s) as silverhead mentioned.  That will give you much more flexibility as you'll be able to use the ridiculous amounts of amps in the Go instead of your 1 expensive guitar amp!

  17. On 2/3/2022 at 3:52 PM, voxman55 said:

    Line 6 increased the blocks in HX Stomp from 6 to 8 but this coincided with polypitcg effects being added and folk complained about the DSP drain. Hence they are very reluctant to add blocks to Pod Go. But recent posts on The Gear Page suggest that if sufficient votes are evidenced on Ideascale, the door might not be completely closed here.

     

    Digital Igloo said "Feel free to keep pushing the expanded block thing, too (stranger things have happened), and IdeaScale is the place to get the most eyes on it."

     

    (quote from another thread, but bumping this one instead)

     

    That's pretty sad...   Just sounds like excuses, it's very easy to say that people didn't demand this feature because it didn't get enough votes...  But how many PGO users are on ideascales, and how many know about this feature, or that they can vote for it on ideascale?!    Just to know about any of this, you have to visit this support forums or 'the gear page' forum's pod go thread or whatnot, learn of existence of the feature by reading a bunch of posts, and then you have to REGISTER to ideascale, wait for approval, then go to the bother of finding the exact place to vote.  No wonder there's few votes, takes a bunch of very unlikely events to occur to make it possible to vote.

     

    If Line6 was really interested in knowing if Pod Go users are interested, there could have been a simple poll somewhere; which features would you like most; a, b, c or d.  Or, would you like to have this? Yes/no.  Then people would vote, and you'd get an idea of what people want.  But this voting "if we get enough votes" thing is designed for user requests to be ignored. 

     

    Anyway, maybe it's not as bad as I assume. Maybe ideascale works better than I'd wager.  But I've never bothered to check it out in the past.  Like most people, the bystander effect is real; why do I need to vote, I'm just 1 person, doesn't really matter, others will do it.   And yeah, certainly Line6 is aware of all of that.  I guess the idealists views ideascale as a good faith effort, and the realists view it for what it is.   (The previous L6 answers confirm this, see my 1st comment in this thread)

     

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    And yeah, to answer to the original quoted comment.  It's a very silly answer.  Minorities always complain.  There will ALWAYS be people complaining.  And it's not like you couldn't run out of DSP previously...   Anyway, it just sounds to me like another excuse not to do it.  

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  18. So it was discussed before, you can import an edited json file which import a preset that does not contain wah, FX loop, etc., to free blocks, effectively creating extra 'free' blocks.  Doesn't add any DSP, so if you use any expensive amp/effect, you'll likely run out, but cool trick. 

     

    So Ben Craven created a very nice tutorial and demonstration, only 282 subs, subscribe to show thanks!  :)    Lots of other interesting Pod Go videos too.

     

     

     

     

    Ivan Pesut also has quite a few Pod Go videos, so worth checking out; lots of info about how using/configuring effects, cool sounds, etc.  He also has also a bunch of presets that he gives out for free.  Highly recommended.

     

     

     

     

    So both are very deserving of a sub!  If there's any others worth subbing too, you could put up recommendations!   Maybe other websites, some often mention the gear page I think it is...   This could be a place to link useful sites/channels.

     

    Youtube "worship tutorials" channel have quite a few demos and reviews of the Pod Go, interesting watch.   "Hey Worship Leader" also have a few Stomp videos; as the effects are quite similar; can be interesting, but not as PGo dedicated as Ivan or Ben.   Also, I have a huge ideological conflict with these 2 channels, as I have a much greater affinity with Satan than Jesus, being that Rock and Roll is the music of the devil.  But hey...  Not everyone can be cool, so don't hate them just because they love Jesus, nobody is perfect, you just have to accept that some adults have imaginary friends and believe in the grown up version of Santa Claus, that's all.  And don't hate us cool folk also, who worship the devil because we love to boogie and love the devil's music.  Everyone is different, and we all have to live together in peace and harmony.  Peace!

     

    Oh yeah, Jason Sadites is another great channel for Pod Go:

     

     

  19. 59 minutes ago, foff1234 said:

    I understand grdGo33 that there is no quick-fix for lowering the volume without changing the tone, and after only had time to fiddle with the controls for a short time, seems to me that changing the gain in a preset sounds least altering of the sound, and pretty simple to, to save in an own correct-gain preset, though that also changes the sound..

     

    nonono!   I mean using the volume knob on your guitar will change the tone.  If you change the volume in any way from the pod go, it will not affect the tone.  It's just that when use the volume pot of your guitar to reduce the volume; it affects the tone of the guitar.  Less high end, the sound becomes muffled, a little bit like if you used the tone knob on your guitar; it reduces the high frequency.  

  20. Yeah, the only thing that sucks with lowering the volume at the guitar level is that typically, lowering the volume doesn't just change the volume, it also affects the tone, and in my experience, I hate it lol  It just kills the tone IMHO.  There are fixes for it, ex;    https://humbuckersoup.com/treble-bleed-circuit-wiring/    but yeah typically, already humbucker pickups tend to sound kinda 'dead' when compared to single coils, so you want to retain what little clarity they have, but yeah, if you lower the volume, that typically also kills your tone, if you don't have a treble bleed mod of some kind.

     

    Using multiple guitars at the same time is kind of a pain; especially with something like the PGO where most patches would benefit from some tweaking depending on which guitar you're using.  So for that reason, you might as well setup some patches for your individual guitars.  Maybe snapshots also; ex; snapshot1 = charvel, snapshot2 = fender where the drive gets boosted for single coils. 

     

    Anyway, I think most people once having played through the presets don't use them anymore, they move on to their custom patches, so yeah, you can duplicate what presets you like to your user patches, either 1 per guitar, use snapshots, etc.  :)   But typically, you might not even have to modify each patch individually, they should kinda usable with both guitars, maybe volume works, you'll figure everything out eventually!  :D

  21. 16 hours ago, skryptus said:

    If you don't happen to use the Volume Pedal of the POD Go (as many seem not to), you can also set it to a specific volume level of your choice (un-assigning the default behavior of using the expression 2) and set its bypass to a footswitch. When you connect your Charvel you just click the switch on for the corresponding volume cut, and when you connect your Texas you switch it off, restoring full volume.

     

    This should work as long as the volume pedal block is at the start of your chain which it is in most (all?) presets.  It's the same thing as having a boost pedal boosting the signal, it would be an unboost pedal to lower the output of the guitar;  guitar high output -> volume pedal block decreases output -> normal guitar output

  22. 17 hours ago, foff1234 said:

    if I use my Charvel Pro-Mod Joe Duplantier Signature I get a distorted clean signal if I choose one of the clean presets, no matter which one (though the distortion level varies..). If I use my Texas Fender-copy, I dont. I get a clean sound as it should be. If I lower the volume on the Charvel to about middle, it becomes much better. 

     

    That just sounds like regular high output pickups.

     

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    Cant the pod go "handle" the more "punchy, bassy" signal from my Charvel?

     

    I don't think that it's that it can't handle, it's just behaving as you would expect any amp or distortion pedal or whatever to behave.

     

    This is sound:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=sine+wave&iax=images&ia=images

     

    This is clipped sound; distortion;

     

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clipped+sine+wave&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

     

    Distortion is basically removing the top and bottom parts from the sine waves.  But when it removes it, it removes it given a level; ex; + and - 5dB or whatever.  If your strat's max volume is +5.1, it'll clip the .1 and it will sound the same.  If your Charvel does +/- 10dB, then it'll cut a lot more, and it will sound a whole lot more distorted.

     

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sine+wave+with+distortion&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

     

    So yeah, your Charvel just sends more volume to the Go, and that results in more distortion.  People use boost pedals for the exact same reason; so that their guitar output signal is higher, so it hits the amp's gain/distortion harder and the end signal gets more distorted in the end.  Perfectly normal!

     

    Oh yeah and 'obviously', even the clean tones will likely have some distortion on the amp part, if you set it to zero, or choose a really clean amp such as a pre-amp or whatnot with 0 drive/gain/distortion,  you should still be getting a 'fairly' clean signal.  If you don't, maybe you're just hearing the sound of your specific humbuckers, which will sound very different than the single coils PUs from a strat.  But yeah having some distortion on clean tones for electric guitar is kinda normal, and I believe the Go will have some amount of distortion even on the 'clean' tone presets.

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  23. On 10/13/2021 at 4:29 AM, RickDeck3030 said:

    I like OD, Chorus, Delay and Reverb, so POD Go looked like a good solution as it had 5 blocks available. The issue I have is that the 5 blocks don't actually give you much flexibility when you take on board suggestions from users. For instance Jason always uses an LA Comp at the end of the chain, most of the presets I've liked when starting to use POD  use compressors at the front or end of the chain. So I've adopted that as a template. Then you have the mandatory Eq block and you really need a Reverb otherwise it is incredibly flat. So now you're down to two blocks which even for my modest needs isn't enough. For instance I've seen suggestions of using two ODs to create better OD sounds - that eats up the two blocks and no space for a delay. The same thing would apply to adding a looper at the end of the chain - there isn't space for it except in quite a simple patch.

     

    What kind of tones are you trying to achieve?  With the Go, obviously, you can't use everything at the same time, so imho you kinda have to figure out what is your core tone and just go for the effects which are productive for this tone; ex; for ambient stuff, here's a few examples;    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6f4slSLGlo  like his tone at 6:00 is only using 3 effects.

     

    If you want a chorus tone, that could be a different patch, or, again, it's just about finding the good compromise.  Do you really need a delay?  I found that most of my recent patches don't even have delay, just heavy reverb...   Chorus?  Again, just by increasing the mix of the reverb which already contains modulation modulates your entire tone, so...

     

    Anyway; Go is like everything; always about compromises.  Want a tripod?   Weight/cost/stability; choose 2.   For Go vs Helix vs stand alone pedals, it could effects/price/power; the Go would be effects & price.  Effects & Power then LT or full blown helix, or full pedal board.  If you want to use all the effects and don't mind price, LT seems like a great choice.  So yeah, choosing the FX unit is a compromise, but even when you'll use the Go, you'll have to make compromises...

     

    With Go; you'll have to be a bit more choosy and you will have to work around the limitations.  The Go is super complex imho, and getting incredible tones is possible, just maybe you'll have to be more creative and inventive to use effects how you might not have thought...  If you can't get that exact tone/sound because you can't use 5 dynamic blocks, which 4 blocks get you the closest?

     

    Maybe you want heavy distortion plus delay reverb phaser and compressor, so just finding an amp and setting it up a certain way gives you the heavy distortion without having to use a distortion pedal.  Maybe you don't need the compressor because you're using the EQ as a boost, maybe you'll use the compressor with the drive setting to boost the amp.....  So many possibilities! 

     

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    For instance I've seen suggestions of using two ODs to create better OD sounds - that eats up the two blocks and no space for a delay.

     

    Well for this I would just revisit the notion that 2 ODs create 'better' OD sounds.  And if your sound is really all about the OD sounds, then maybe you don't need a chorus...  Btw, your amplifier block has a drive/distortion, so if you add a distortion pedal, you will have stacked distortion; so that eats up just one block.  If you really want to stack 2 OD pedals on top of your amp, then again yeah you would be IMHO one of the users who would benefit from the Helix LT because you're trying to do some rather fancy sh!t   lol   :D

     

    And btw, get an external looper!  Hamoon (sp?) Nano Looper is <50$ for instance, works really well, and having it outside of the Go is priceless!  But yeah obviously using outboard effects saves Go blocks! 

     

    If you really want to use compressor all the time, then again getting a compressor pedal might be another compromise, I'm certain there are cheap and great sounding ones out there.   But yeah, you'd be 2 pedals plus go lol  But anyway, the Go just for the amp block and amazing effects, at the price of like 2-4 normal pedals is a steal!  Then IMHO, for 99.99999% of the people, the limitations to have great tones and make crazy music will be you, not the Go!

  24. On 10/16/2021 at 6:31 AM, skryptus said:

    The easiest way to check if it's a DSP issue or not is actually freeing the block in the preset, then adding the effect, either through PG Edit or through the POD's UI.

    You learn fairly quickly which effects are cheap and which effects are expensive.  If you want cheap effects, the legacy effects tends to be very cheap.  The more advanced modulation effects is definitely where the cost adds up, the the Benzin Amp is one of the most expensive at ~33%, the ganimede, searchlight, etc., reverbs are also around 33%, so anyway, thanks to benvesco.com and user's hard work, you can actually know which effects cost what;  https://benvesco.com/store/helix-dsp-allocations/

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