The looper could easily be more useful in Helix Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 3:51 AM, DunedinDragon said: I have to admit I'm not the least bit concerned about the limitations of the looper in Helix. But that's because I'm part of the massive crowd of people that's never found a need for one. And I suspect that may be what's behind Line 6's thinking on such things. Looper effects such as those mentioned above by datacommando are in a category of much more specialized effects than the common distortion, compression, eq, delay, reverb, modulation...etc. that come with the Helix. Things that most, if not all of us commonly use. And I'm not sure I, or many like me, would be willing to pay a significantly higher price for my Helix due to it hosting an effect I'd rarely ever use. If you have a driving need for it in your performance feel free to get a good one that fits your needs and use the send/returns provided. If you are part of the massive crowd of people that's never found the need for a looper, why on earth are you posting in a thread who's sole topic is to discuss the limitations of the current looper in the product? That's like someone going into a thread complaining about the limitations in Fender basses because they are pretty much all bolt-on models instead of neck through, and you post that you're not the least bit concerned about Fender basses being bolt on. This is because you are part of the massive crowd of people who've never found a need for a neck through bass. You started your post by pointing out that this has nothing to do with you, and you don't care at all about it, but you went through with posting opinions about it anyhow. If you think the price of the helix would be significantly higher by them improving a feature, then I guess it must have skyrocketed with every amazing firmware release where they add HUNDREDS of new features and improve existing features by leaps and bounds. Just because you don't care about a feature doesn't make the feature less important to those who are creating, and participating in, a thread about that feature. And your logic about costs doesn't follow with how line6 does business.