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On 8/9/2017 at 8:18 PM, warriorxtman said:

And yet another complaint .....give us a Full printed manual

Not gonna happen. You can download it from the website and print it yourself if you want.

Using the Spider V remote program on PC/Mac you can "export" a tone (preset) to a file on your computer. This is how you save presets; it can't be done on the Spider Remote app on Android or IOS. Save the presets on your computer that you want to swap, then import them back at the preset location you want.

Yes, the tweeter and woofer are active with both guitar and aux input, so it works as a FRFR system. The amp modeling is derived from Pod Farm which has amp and cab modeling, so the guitar speaker is designed to be accurate with the software. The aux input is sent straight to the power amp, so both speakers are active.

Only you can be the judge of whether the Spider sounds better than the Mustang, but the fact that the Spider is a full range system with a tweeter and woofer will reproduce the jam tracks more accurately. Since you have 200 amps, cabs, and effects you might have better luck finding a tone that fits your needs.

Also, you have two options for organizing and saving presets with the Spider- the Spider Remote App for IOS and Android, or the Spider Remote for PC/Mac. 

You can't delete a preset, only overwrite them. You could build a template with no amp model or effects and overwrite them, but I find the presets as a good starting point to try tones I might not have thought of.

What is your problem with the speaker? Since this is a modeling amp, the speaker isn't designed to work like a regular guitar amp. The speaker is designed to work with the tweeter to give the most accurate response with the modeling software. If you want to change the tone of the amp, there are tons of options with the software- amp/speaker cabs/eq, etc.

The only way to really tweak patches is at band level during rehearsal. Sometimes this tries the patience of other band members, but in the end you'll be a lot happier.

I recently picked up a Line 6 Spider V 60 and wanted to try to load some custom tones ont it. But, I cannot actually find any? If I go to the Custom Tone section no Spider V amps are listed. Any that I choose tell me that I must have a registered product, my amp is registered, there are just no tones that I can find. 

 

The amp says on the top, download tones, Google search for the amp the details from Line 6 say that I can load custom tones. So, where are they? 

 

Thanks.

You have to connect the Spider to an Android or IOS device and use the Spider V app to access tones. They are searchable using the app, and all the tones are stored in the cloud. At this point there are no user tones available with the PC Spider V Remote program.

Technically, doubling an amp's wattage only raises the volume by 3db. Going from 120 to 240 is a 3b increase in volume. For reference, a 10db increase is normally perceived as doubling the volume. I've played many gigs with a 75W amp and had no problems.

That's true, but because the 240 has two 120 watt amps going into two speakers, the apparent loudness is much greater. I tried the 120 with my loud band and it couldn't cut it. The 240 has no problem.

I initially bought the 120 figuring it would be loud enough to keep up with a loud drummer, wanting the most portable rig possible. I had a Fender Mustang 100 that was plenty loud.

Unfortunately, the 120 wasn't loud enough to keep up with our drummer, so I swapped it out for the 240 and couldn't be happier.

The 240 is plenty loud, the sound quality is enhance with the 2-12" speakers and and stereo output. If you're playing metal I would definitely go for the 240 because you're going to need more power for the bass heavy metal tones.

Don't panic; you've picked a perfect amp to learn from. It can be as simple or complicated as you want. Here are some basic terms (adjust ALL to your taste. There is no right or wrong).:

"Amp" -press this button to control the sound of the amp models. Here are the controls.
 

"Drive"- preamp distortion. The more you turn it up, the more distortion of the amp you will get. Many "real" amps have a stage where you can turn up the "gain" or "drive" to push the preamp into distortion without the amp having to get louder.

"Bass. Mid, Treble"- your basic tone controls, just like your stereo system.

"Volume"- since the amp has individual places to store sounds (presets), this is where you can adjust the preset to have the volume level similar to other presets. If one preset is too loud or too soft compared to others, the volume control is where you adjust it. 

"Master"- the overall volume level of the amp. Set this control for a comfortable volume for your situation, and then adjust the "Volume" control on each preset to be about the same as others you are hearing.

"FX"- press this button to change the controls to affect the digital effects. There are 5 basic effects, but many more that you can discover through the menus. There are default colors to identify the different effects- Yellow- distortion, Blue-modulation, Green- delay. Just turn the knobs up and down to increase or decrease the desired effect. For a beginner, this is a good place to start. For more information. the manual is your friend.

"Comp"- an effect that smoothes out the sound so the notes don't stick out as much. This control is always a Compressor.

"FX 1" - Distortion effects like a stompbox distortion- Tube Screamer, etc.

"FX 2"- Modulation effects like chorus, flanging, phasing etc. 

"FX 3"- Delay effects- like slapback delay, tape delay etc.

Reverb- always a reverb effect- room, concert hall, plate reverb etc. 

Each preset will have it's own amp model and effects. You don't have to change anything if you don't want to, but the fun is hearing the different sounds you can get with a modeling. amp. Audition the presets to find a sound you're looking for and you can save them to a location that's convenient for you. There are many deep controls of this amp that you don't need to use until you get familiar with the basics.

Once you create a preset you like, save it to one of the 32 preset locations. Press and hold the rotary knob to get to the Save screen, then turn the knob to the preset number where you want to save. it.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

No- they're just a bonus feature as something to jam with.

How about giving us a bit of info on what patches were changed and/or added!

No, only from the amp front panel.

You're happy with Vanilla, Chocolate, and Strawberry- good for you. Personally, I find these improvements:

-Much more user friendly editor, update and storage capabilities

- the amps are a different flavor and more touch sensitive compared to earlier ones

- the new delay is awesome sounding

- the new Xotic clean boost is great for every amp I've tried.

Since it's free, what do you have to lose?

The USB cable must be an OTG cable, not a generic USB cable.  And you have to have an OTG cable for the transmitting device, either iOS or PC.  For example (for Android): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LN3LQKQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You are using the Android app that won't work with your laptop. They have released a PC/Mac editor that uses a standard USB cable to connect to your laptop. Go to the Download page on your laptop and download it to your laptop, do the install routine and you should be good to go.

The software code for Pod HD is a different generation than the Spider V series, so the amp models wouldn't be compatible. According to LIne 6, they completely reworked the Pod Farm algorithms (Pod X3) in the Spider V series.

Honestly, I had a Pod HD, and the Spider amp models come pretty close to matching the touch sensitivity and dynamics of the HD series. Plus you get a whole lot more amp models to select from..

I doubt if you'll ever see the HD models in the Spider V series.

I have a spider IV 15W, and used to have a Spider V 120W.

 

I assumed the Spider V would be a good step up. Wrong! Best advice I once was given, and can only suggest here is, if you're going to buy any kind of audio equipment - go listen first!

 

I didn't, not for the Spider V anyway. As soon as I switched it on I knew I didn't like it. 

 

So I read the reviews. Not good. I took on-board the positive advice. I played with the settings. I downloaded hundreds of tones. I downloaded the 'rated' tones. I stuck with it for a year. I struggled.

 

One night my wife needed the room where my gear is. For convenience I took my Spider IV 15W downstairs to practice. Hadn't switched it on in months, but OMW it sounded good. That is - compared to the Spider V!

 

I knew then I had to change! 

 

I traded in my Spider V 120W, Shortboard mkII, & Relay G10 - toward a Boss Katana 100/212. 

 

I've not stopped smiling since!!!

 

This time I went to the shop & listened. I shortlisted a Marshall, Blackstar & Orange tube amp (all 5W to 15W - home & small venue). Didn't like the Marshall or Blackstar in the end. Orange was only ok for me. Turns out I prefer open back combos over closed back. This isn't the reason why the Spider V doesn't work for me though. Spider V = lots of fizz, poor tone & no cut through!

 

Big shout out to Reidys, Blackburn, UK here. The guy gave me 15 mins on each amp, listened to my comments - then said - I know what you'll like. 

 

As soon as I heard the Katana 100/212 I was smiling. As I said - I've not stopped smiling since. Not a modelling amp - but 4 (+acoustic) styles + effects, & geesh it's loud!!!! Wife hates it!!!! 

 

Main things - good tone at all gains and volumes! I might be a Boss/Roland convert. Going to listen to a GT-100 next week.

 

My advice - go listen!! My suggestion - don't buy a Spider V - buy a Boss Katana. Buy a 100W. Buy the 100/212 if you can!

 

Note - I had lots of tech with my Spider V setup. I had the radio link, tuner, and volume/wah pedals and more... I don't have these with the Katana. (I did buy the GA-FC on day one to be able to select the channels). But so what - sound quality is king. Tech is 2nd. I'll add those other features back over time. But - only after I've listened

 I totally agree that you should listen before buying an amp. Maybe the Spider V has too many options for tone shaping for you,because I'm getting stellar tones with mine. YMMV

After connecting to my Ipad to look at the banks of tones for an upcoming gig, I noticed I could not save any tones to the "My Tones" folder, and the folder is empty. The only change I've made is to load the PC Spider Remote and connect my 240 to my PC to save the bundle of tones. Is this a bug, or do I have another problem?

Chances are slim and none that they will create a pc based editor, and slim just left town... :wacko:

I bow down in humble embarrassment for my lack of faith in the Line 6 wizards to create a PC editor. The crow is half eaten for dinner, the rest for breakfast tomorrow. I see Slim in the doorway right now...

No, they are different formats. Amplifi presets can be loaded into Spider V amps, though.

Yes, thank you!

Plugging into the XLR outputs doesn't mute the speakers, so there has to be another problem.

There is no digital connection from the Pod to the Spider. You could use a two 1/4" to 1/8" mini plug cable to go from the 1/4" outputs of the Pod into the Aux In jack of the Spider.

I wouldn't let the fact that there isn't a PC editor stop you. I'm using an Ipad, and it works well. You can edit all functions on it. You can edit on the front panel too of course. There are problems with some Android devices, check and see if yours is compatible. That might be a deal breaker.

Honestly, the Spider V is light years improved over the IV. I had a IV. I would never gig or rehearse with it, and sold it quickly. I am very happy with the tones on the V; I'm using it regularly as a alternative to my Helix rig and don't feel like it's a huge downgrade. The amp models are much improved- dynamic and more accurate. I have no problem cutting through the band mix.