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Well, Helix is really good in a lot of ways but I digress, if it only had a tuner in the Editor Id be happy...  

; )

On 11/1/2020 at 9:22 PM, Jeraxle said:

Hey all,

 

Long time no see.  I’m an X3 Live owner from way back and have just recently upgraded to a Helix Floor.  I’m pretty excited about getting into the nuts and bolts of it when it arrives on Wednesday. 
 

I’m posting to ask if anyone has any tips or suggestions that they found helpful when upgrading from an X3L. 
 

Thanks in advance and I’m glad to be back!

Welcome back and enjoy Helix!

2 hours ago, zappazapper said:

polytune?

No it's more about (Like me, an old joke around here) a "tuner" being added to the Helix Editor.  ; ) 

I'd fall over if they ever really added it. 

Hear they are working on the tuner in the 3.0 editor as i type...

I dont have the time to do this "correctly", but I appreciate their offer in allowing users to do this!

On 10/23/2020 at 8:56 AM, cruisinon2 said:

I'd hazard a guess that the majority of users will never come close to using everything in Helix. I certainly don't...

+1000

Shhhhh... So they had a party where a few friends were told unofficially that they might be working on it. Keep this between you and me.... 

; )

I've found "by accident" a really good matchup- I have had the HX-Effects hooked up to a Marshall head for a while now (luv the thing BTW), and recently I purchased the Strymon Iridum pedal. The plexi and AC-30 sounds are just killer to me.

So, I wanted some FX for the Iridium, so I started playing around with it and the HX-Effects. Match made in Heaven i think! And with the proper midi controller (like a Morningstar MC8) you will have a monster setup. OK No proof without a clip? Here ya go- All thumbs this morning please pardon the goofs lol.... 

2 hours ago, phowell said:

Check out the Neural Quad Core video from Sweetwater.  It has  DSP out the wazoo, wi-fi, touch screen, footswitches that rotate to control parameters, 1,000 IR's...you don't even need a computer at all. 

All that's great but if it sounds like garbage Id rather have my plain ol non touch screen Helix. All the bells and whistles in the world don't matter if the tone suxs. I havent heard the Neural Quad yet and it may sound good too, but the point still stands. 

8 hours ago, phil_m said:

It’s going to be an expansion of the original vision.

Does that mean there's a possible tuner in the editor Phil???

; )

Just trying to help those who are thinking about getting an Iridium and how they might hook it up with an HX Effects (and other Strymon Pedals).

The reason why the UM-ONE midi interface needs a midi return is so that Nixie (Strymon editor/librarian software) can see the changes made on the Mobius/Timeline/BigSky and adjust the settings on its gui. For instance, If I use HX Effects to change Big-Sky reverbs on a Snapshot, the results are shown in Nixie!  

It still applies even if the date was missed...  ; )

On 4/23/2020 at 1:18 PM, Digital_Igloo said:

..we're sending thugs to your house to administer an atomic wedgie.

Heh I thought that's what it took to get you off TGP to post here lol  ; )

Welcome BTW.... 

Very nice- Thanks for all your effort! 

The opposite happened to me Cru- I made the mistake of trying to mix with my headphones for the 1st time the other day, 1st time for everything i guess. Using  the DT-770 Pro's (80 ohm) I thought they would be "flatter". Boy was I surprised when I took them off and compared the mix with my Mackie 824s. Too many highs, almost brittle sounding ( the headphones added Bass) from the mackie's then, and too much verb in places I didn't hear with the phones on. The brittle snds may have enhanced the verb using the 824's. Its ok to still track with phones (esp with using vocal mics- you almost have to then in smallish studio's), but for final mixing/EQ I'll stay with the flat monitors (or invest in a much better set of headphones). My two cents.

1 hour ago, datacommando said:

I seriously doubt that Line 6 are “milking it”.

Of course not. Its not even called "official" until after its released ; P lol.... 

6 hours ago, cruisinon2 said:

Any of today's upper-tier modelers can create just about any sound you want... provided that you take the time to learn how to use the unit. What you cannot expect from Helix (or anything else for that matter) is the following:

 

1) Instant gratification. Won't happen,  period. Not with factory presets, not with anything you download from Customtone, nor any of the much- touted patches that you'll find for sale from various sources. You'll find yourself editing everything... sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. There is a learning curve, particularly if you've been using a much older platform forever... and in the long run you'll be much better off learning to create the sound you want yourself, rather than trying to tailor someone else's patch to your needs. Plan on spending a significant amount of time getting your feet wet. A couple of hours on Saturday afternoon is not likely to leave you dilerious with glee about your new toy.

 

2) It won't behave like the unit you're used to... don't care what you're upgrading from, even if it's another Line 6 product. Don't assume that dialing in the same settings with the same amp model will yield the exact same tone you get from your current rig, because it won't.

 

What you're playing through (and the volume at which you're playing) also matter. A lot. Headphones, studio monitors, a larger FRFR monitor, into a "real" amp, etc etc... they're all fundamentally different, and your patches will need to be tailored accordingly.

 

I appreciate your efforts Cru, but isn't this like explaining to the Chicago Gangsta why he shouldn't shoot you? Maybe a poor example but I mean, either this is common knowledge for anyone who has done their research (reading-studying-watching-learning- and then repeating this concept) 1st hand before taking the plunge, or it never will be for others that don't. FYI, no fingers pointed and no one specific in mind, just a general observation after reading decades of posts here. ; )

Excellent read folks! Thanks to all for the information (I thought I knew and didn't know enough on).

4 hours ago, SaschaFranck said:

Ok, I promise to stop after this, but seriously: Do you *really* think they "designed" the XLR outs to cause hiss and crackle once there's phantom power running? Seriously? Ok, must be a weird design idea then...

I honestly dont know. I do know that most Electronic Design Engineers are smarter at that design work than I am.

8 minutes ago, codamedia said:

Couldn't you have just left it with your first line instead of invoking more discussion?

No, He is like me and has to be right all the time ; ). Next he will be telling us how the tuner in the editor is not working right..., err....

1 hour ago, SaschaFranck said:

You seem to have very little of an idea of certain jobs.

Ive been playing out off and on since the late 60's, so don't go there. You seem to judge people you know "nothing" about. Sure, certain jobs don't need a huge mixer- DUH. So yes Mr. Obvious small mixers don't have individual channels with Phantom power. Use a direct box that blocks the 48 volts. Done!

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An XLR out not being able to deal with phantom power is a bad thing.

I don't disagree with this, but that doesn't mean it's broken, it just means it was designed that way. Who knows why that is. Im sure they will address this in Helix 2.0. That said, You seem to declare there is something very wrong with Helix design wise as a show stopper issue, when there isn't. Could it have been designed better? Sure, like everything else that you and I both own AND don't own (that's me being Mr. Obvious now ; ) ). That doesn't mean Helix is broken. But, even if Helix was able to take the 48 volts without ANY issues at all, Id still run with a direct box just to be pro-active for protection purposes if nothing else. That goes for my Kemper, Axe FX and others as well. That cover all the bases? Good.

Oh yea, as far as running Helix in the summer Sun, Id try hard not to do that if at all possible just for the heat build up if nothing else.

53 minutes ago, SaschaFranck said:

I explained the situation already. What's so tough to understand? In case you only have a small console with global phantom power and someone is using a mic requiring it, then it will be switched on, period. And the last thing you would want to deal with is to care about the guitarist just because his/her XLR out is acting up - because that's just nothing to usually happen.

And I explained the situation already, too. What's so tuff about following directions? Besides, "most" mixers have a switch next to the power button for phantom power, and you don't "have" to use it if you dont wish to. And If they (the musician) tells you NOT to do something then don't do it,  just follow their instructions. And FWIW If u have a small console with global phantom power that wont switch off and you are running sound with that you need to move up in the world mixer wise (get Phantom power per channel), or get a day job. And one other thing, if the sound guy is a jerk and doesn't care about the people/equipment he/she is mixing for then you need to FIRE them and get one who does. Why? Because if they could care less about your equipment then they don't care much about how good you sound either. Or heres a "novel" idea, just run a direct box. Then it doesn't matter if your sound guy is coherent or not.... ; )

42 minutes ago, SaschaFranck said:

It's not about what I will do, it's about what the guy running the console will do.

If I tell the sound-man not to hook up 48 volts to my Helix and he does anyway he's not worth his own salt. There are rules to be followed when the equipment does not belong to you. He can hang a mic over the cab, and thats been done since the late 40's early 50's.

19 hours ago, SaschaFranck said:

Well, it's bad hardware design, absolutely no way around it. As said, even a cheap Zoom G3 doesn't run into problems.

I "never" run 48 volts anywhere near my Helix in's or out's, but that's just me. 

Create another ticket robiox. I assume since the Mainboard and DSP board was changed by L6, there's a good chance it's still in warranty if its only been 6 months. You kept the receipts, right?