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If you like the GUI....fine. I'm happy for you. I don't. I've been DEEPLY involved with the development of both hardware and software ampsims and VST FX
development since DAY 1. Some of you were probably in diapers then.
You're entitled to your opinions as I am to mine. I've owned many Line6 products....I still have an X3 I use on occasion.
But quite frankly, I have various hardware & software products that IN MY OPINION sound better and and are more user friendly than Line6 products.
That being said, I will admit that Helix is a step forward both in terms of sound and hardware/software integration and the patch handling system is
somewhat improved.
If Line6 had gotten on the ball and made the Pod X3 compatible with PodFarm2 they MIGHT have kept my business.....but no they NEVER released adedicated editor and forced us to use the already very outdated GearBox. I've moved on and I'm glad I did.
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"UMNN....DISAGREE...A LOT" That's all you've got??
Wow....that really eloquently states your case. Care to explain yourself? The GUI is amateurish compared to even LINE6's earlier work.
Symbols & sliders?? WTF?? It looks like something cobbled together in Synthedit. Tiny little pics of the hardware that can't be accessed
and/or tweaked?? Super tiny text that causes eye strain after 10-20 minutes. Sorry....you need to come up with a better argument than that.
IMHO the GUI sucks.....I given plenty of reasons why I think so. What are your's for disagreeing with me??
Oh or are you disagreeing with me that the software isn't worth $400 to non-hardware owners?? How would I know
seeing as how you're too lazy too clearly explain yourself?
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Lest y'all have forgotten...
Line 6 made the very first amp sim plugin ever—Amp Farm, way back in '98.
This is our wheelhouse.
And THIS is the best GUI you can come up with?? Even 'ol Gear Box had a better GUI IMHO.....REALLY dislike this one. And $400 for non-Helix hardware owners?? Good luck with that. IMHO there are much better values in VST ampsims....that are ALSO standalone.
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I've got some more news for you.....the latest drivers 4.2.7.4 also break the X3's ability to connect with POD Farm2 in Win7!!
Same as all drivers in Win10....the X3 is recognized in MIDI but no ASIO. Fortunately, rolling back to 4.2.7.1 fixes this inWin7....but not in Win10.
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Ok, thanks......that's some good news. :)
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I get it.....but sometimes the line between reasons and excuses is finer than the line between art & garbage. :rolleyes:
Any chance of THIS getting fixed?
This update adds support for Windows 10.
Due to a driver incompatibility with Windows 10, the following devices will not operate with the POD Farm stand-alone application in ASIO host mode:- PODxt series
- PODX3 series
- PODHD series
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gearbox is the editor and it works fine, except for the built in player that stopped working...
make sure you completely upgrade both gearbox and the x3 firmware before you start sifting through the files...
only files from pod farm 2 will not work typically... anything from XT, and pod farm 1 should work.
Yes, Gearbox does work.....BUT..It's not a DEDICATED X3 editor. Just tacking on X3 support and mothballing Line 6 Edit was a poor decision IMHO,(and many other users as well).
http://line6.com/supportarchive/thread/20704/
Compared to PodFarm, GearBox's GUI is rather clunky. Even the lowly Pocket Pod had it's OWN DEDICATED EDITOR. After doing a bit of research, I've found that I'm far from alone here. But lack of better editor is comparatively minor. Allowing a break of compatibility between X3, & PodFarm2, the inability to load SOME files with the EXACT same file extension is not only ridiculous it's irresponsible IMHO. I'm of course using the latest drivers and most recent,(i.e....quite old), version of Gear Box. I am now "sifting" through thousands of patches.....a total PITA and waste of time that should not have been necessary
Oh, and now that I've upgraded to Win10 I can't even use PodFarm1 with X3 as they do not work together under that OS.
That being said.....Line 6 makes some great products....I've been a user for decades. But this constant half-baked mentality off....well, it's good enough let's move on....is simply infuriating. I realize that new products need to be developed and released. I realize that no company can provide indefinite tech support for legacy products. But Line 6 really left users holding the bag on this one. PodFarm2 COULD have been properly coded to work with the X3. It STILL could be. There should also be SOME way to "fix" .l6t files that have been corrupted by PF2. And speaking of PF2....HOW old is it now?? You guys have been making some great leaps with the hardware.....but you've really dropped the ball with the software.
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WOW!! My mind has been completely blown. I sold my PODXT and "upgraded" to an X3. Yes, there are some things I like about it. But the fact that it will not open MOST files in it's OWN NATIVE file extension .l6t is about the dumbest most frustrating bunch of BS I've ever encountered. After a lot of frustration and research I've come to find out that if an .l6t is opened/edited/save in POD Farm it is completely unusable in either Gear Box or the X3. It's going to take me weeks sift through the thousands of patches I've collected and created to find the few that still work. .....EPIC FAIL LINE 6!!
AND as if that wasn't bad enough......I then find out that upgrading to WIN10 totally breaks the X3's ability to work with POD Farm in any way at all.
And it's not like the X3 ever really had a proper editor in the first place......but, of course, all of this typical of Line 6.
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Ok, maybe this will help some other users with this problem. There is DEFINITELY something wrong with Line6's coding.
It's either the current firmware or the drivers. Even tho I loaded my PODxt with Line6 FACTORY patches from GearBox I
was still getting a MIDI timeout at 44%. However, being that it changed from 21% to 44% after loading said patches, it
occurred to me that there must be some compatibility issue between the patches and the software. Now, mind you, I NEVER
had this problem before installing the current update. Soooo I re-flashed the firmware one more time BUT, this time, I allowed
the update to install the factory patches that came WITH THE UPDATE. And GUESS WHAT?? No more MIDI timeout!!
Now that's all well and good provided I NEVER load ANY other patches. But, apparently, some older patches....EVEN THOSE
WRITTEN BY LINE6!!.......are NOT compatible with this version of firmware/drivers.
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I'm really getting sick of this BS. I've tried everything. I've successfully re-flashed the 3.01 firmware. The MIDI timeout continued to
occur at exactly the same point timing out at 21%. So I thought perhaps this was being caused by a corrupt tone from the user
library. Sooo, one by one, I loaded the unit with factory patches in GearBox. This caused a change but did NOT solve the problem.
Now the MIDI timeout error occurs at 44%. This happens at EXACTLY the same point whether connected via MIDI or USB and it
happens at EXACTLY the same point on THREE pc's and THREE OS's. It SUCKS not being able to load and save bundles but
least GearBox allows me to edit and save individual patches.....Line6 Edit isn't working at all.
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Well....the Monkey may not have permanently bricked my POD but there is still a severe lack of joy here.
The latest drivers/firmware/monkey are still messing me up. EVERYTHING worked just fine before updating.
But NOW, even after solving my POD's "Invalid Code Error 1" bootup message, Line6 Edit no longer works
properly. It recognizes my POD but will not complete sync. And there's nothing wrong with my USB cable,
it's not a USB hub problem.....EVERYTHING worked fine before the update...NOTHING else has changed.
I also tried connecting via MIDI AND USB on three different machines and on three different OS's.
I even tried using Gearbox. It DOES work.....partially. I can send and receive single patches but it still
times out when trying to load the POD's memory. I've tried just about everything....uninstalled/reinstalled
EVERYTHING, rolled back drivers and Java....nothing works. I REALLY wish I'd read all the threads about
this out there BEFORE I made the mistake of updating my POD. I am FAR from alone in this boat.
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Well....the Monkey may not have permanently bricked my POD but there is still a severe lack of joy here.
The latest drivers/firmware/monkey are still messing me up. EVERYTHING worked just fine before updating.
But NOW, even after solving my POD's "Invalid Code Error 1" bootup message, Line6 Edit no longer works
properly. It recognizes my POD but will not complete sync. And there's nothing wrong with my USB cable,
it's not a USB hub problem.....EVERYTHING worked fine before the update...NOTHING else has changed.
I also tried connecting via MIDI AND USB on three different machines and on three different OS's.
I even tried using Gearbox. It DOES work.....partially. I can send and receive single patches but it still
times out when trying to load the POD's memory. I've tried just about everything....uninstalled/reinstalled
EVERYTHING, rolled back drivers and Java....nothing works. I REALLY wish I'd read all the threads about
this out there BEFORE I made the mistake of updating my POD. I am FAR from alone in this boat.
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I just checked the latest version of Monkey (1.65), and the ability to update firmware from a file is still there. You have to make sure that "Flash Memory" is highlighted in order to see it. As far as finding the flash file, you just have to look in the software downloads section http://line6/com/software Just sayin ;) Glad your problem got worked out.
Good to know......thanks. I wish support had suggested this to begin with. There is clearly some sort of glitch with the current software versions
and online updating procedure when updating PODxt's. After much research online it's apparent that more than a few users are ending up
with the dreaded "Invalid Code Error 1".
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Alright...I got the RMA# from line6 and I was getting ready to send it back.
BUT...I had to convince myself that I'd truly exhausted all possibilities
before paying for shipping and giving up my unit for who knows how long.
So first I tried to do the firmware update on another machine. Same results.
NO JOY. I was about to throw in the towel when I remembered a little factoid
from earlier years in line6's evolution. There was a time, in the dark past,
when the aforementioned !@#$% MONKEY allowed us humble end users to update
our firmware OFFLINE with the "update from file feature." In their infinite
wisdom line6 decided that the end users were either too incompetent or too
lazy to do a manual update so this feature was eliminated in the !@#$% MONKEY
thereby forcing users to update online....ok, get the picture? I searched the
high and low and finally found the firmware FILE: PODxt_3_01.xtf and an
outdated version of the !@#$% MONKEY that would actually allow me to USE
the file....AND GUESS WHAT?? My PODxt is now fully working!! PRAISE JESUS
it's FRIGGIN' MIRACLE!! Not only did the MANUAL firmware update unscramble
my POD's memory chip but, apparently it MUST have re-soldered that cold solder
joint that line6's tech was so certain was the cause of my POD's failure.
In any case....in closing...kudos to line6 for willingness to attempt to make things right.
MUCH appreciated.
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That's beginning to happen industry wide. I'm a mod on the Presonus forums and they just made a similar announcement.
As I said in my initial post, I understand that companies cannot support products indefinitely. It's just not economically feasible.
Occasionally tho, all companies, make exceptions if the situation calls for it. I am exceedingly grateful that line6 decided that
my situation warranted such an exception. B)
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what would we say? you're just ranting to the line6 user community.
if you wish to rant proper to someone at line6: http://line6.com/company/contact/
Well, thanks so much for the support and oh so useful advice. :rolleyes: I called tech support AND opened
a support ticket I just thought some users,(yourself excluded obviously), might have some USEFUL
input.
10 Oct 2013 - 1:00 PM, said:
I would try to flash it on another computer.
Also, if you are an electronics tech, you might take a look at this thread.
http://line6.com/sup...ew/thread/74156
***Disclaimer*** I am not recommending any user to try to attempt this.
Only offer the info as a last resort.
THANK YOU!! Yes, the first thing I tried after everything failed on the first machine was try it another DAW with a high end
pci based MIDI interface...but still no joy. As to that thread.....I had already read that in my research and tried it with no
success. I was contemplating replacing the chip as I have a colleague that can flash me a new one but fortunately line6
has agreed to step up and repair my unit. I was initially dismayed and frustrated but in the end line6 renewed my faith
in the company and proved, once again, that they have one of the best customer service departments in the industry.
Many Thanks to Tony, Hugo & Line6!! :D
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I'm VERY upset. I've been using Line 6 products for many years and I've never felt more screwed over.
I'm just about done with this company. I currently have a PODxt which I've used on many studio sessions.
Often, before a session, I will fire up Line6 Edit and create new patches specific to the upcoming session.
Like any good loyal Line6 user I also fire up the Monkey and FOLLOW LINE6'S UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS
TO THE LETTER. I am NOT a NOOB. I'm a professional electronics technician and audio engineer. I'verun firmware updates on countless hundreds of rack effects and synthesizers. I've never lost one. Till now.
The !@#$% Monkey said I needed to update it. I was at v. 1.63 so I updated to 1.65. No problem. It then
told me I needed to update the Line 6 drivers from 4.2.6.9 to 4.2.7.1. Again, no problem. BUT then I tried
to fire up Line 6 Edit......PROBLEM. I get an error message saying the firmware code is invalid. Sooooo
I open up the !@#$% Monkey and yes, indeed there is a yellow triangle next to the firmware update.
Soooo I update the firmware. That went smoothly....or so it seemed. It claimed the update was successful
and prompted me to shut down and restart my POD. BUT when I did so I got the dreaded:
"Invalid Code Error 1"
So it looks like I've got a bricked POD. I tried all the recommended fixes. I booted up pressing Enter/Saveand also tried booting while holding the 1st left hand soft key....no joy. I then tried flashing the firmware.
Again the !@#$% Monkey proclaimed the operation a success but AGAIN the unit is booting to the
invalid code message.
Sooooo I finally broke down and did the unthinkable.....I called tech support. Being a tech myself, IRARELY need to do so but the few times I have in the past I've always been pleased and impressed
with the experience. UNTIL YESTERDAY. I was told, in no uncertain that this was ENTIRELY my fault
and that my unit broke because it was old and that I should have known better than to try to update
it.
EXCUSE ME?????????????????????
This is MY fault because I did what LINE6's software prompted me to do?? If there is a danger indoing so why is there NO warning?? I understand that a company cannot support products
indefinitely. BUT this company's SOFTWARE BROKE MY HARDWARE. Do I get even so much
much as an apology. NO. Worse still, I get a finger of blame pointed at me!! I feel like a raped
ape er, excuse me, MONKEY!!
Now, in Line6's defense, their rep did say I could send it in to be repaired....which, of course,after S&H will likely cost more than simply buying a used PODxt. And, of course, I could also
simply buy a NEW Line6 product either way....LINE6 WINS I LOSE. What a BRILLIANT marketing
strategy!!!! Destroy customers old products by prompting them to install "updates" and, thereby
force them to pay for bench time or new products.
WAY TO GO LINE6!!
Missing Models
in POD X3
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I have a Pod X3, Toneport DI Gold, GearBox and PodFarm.....Sooooo therefore I have ALL model packs and ALL models available....in THEORY.
Why then when I try to open certain patches I created on my X3 I get error messages in GearBox & PodFarm stating that models
including "script phase" and "v-tron" are not installed. They fail to load and I get this error message:
(Code 8000a002) Accessing a model that hasn't been added
And, of course, I'm not alone in this frustration.
What gives?