Brazzy

I was under a little pressure (lol) to get a sample of how I used the patch up there, I hope it helps. I recorded it using RiffWorks Standard and USB'ed the HD500. I monitored using Bose AE headphones since I had to be quiet. When I used the Spider Jam to monitor it sounded pretty good. Later on I'm going to try to play this recording through the SJ or another amp or powered monitor to see what it sounds like that way. I'll also try to mic the amp next time. I'm may not be a pro at recording but I try, lol.

 

https://soundcloud.com/reeleeze/hard-time-cyin

no audio demo clip of your patch?

 

I could do that. I got so carried away with playing I never recorded it, lol. Sorry I didn't "H". I'll do something about it soon. :)

I plugged the HD500 into the Spider Jam Aux and was practicing some clean and distortion riffs with the Solo-100 Clean amp model and a plate reverb and added the Line 6 Drive model before the amp and a volume pedal after the distortion model to adjust the volume of the distortion before the amp model. The distortion and volume pedal are toggled with FS2 and the reverb toggled with FS3. I didn't change any settings on any of the models except the max volume of the volume pedal model which ended up being 56%.

 

Now I know it's a simple thing and probably common knowledge but the sound was just so good I had to say something, lol.

 

I was using an Epiphone Special II (humbuckers) with the guitar volume at max and settings in and on the pod were as follows: Input sources were input 1=Guitar and input 2=Variax, Guitar IN switch set to normal, guitar in Z (Auto), "Line" setting for the 1/4" L out, Output mode=Studio Direct, global EQ off, the master volume I had set to 10-11 O'clock and it was pretty loud for practicing.

 

Spider Jam settings were: Aux EQ Tone stack all at noon, Delay and reverb off, I forget what the compressor setting was but I'm sure it wasn't compressing much, the input setting was 0 Db and the master was maxed.

 

Rock On!

 

Patch > http://line6.com/customtone/tone/2382315/

I recently instolled ux2 in the windows 10 laptop computer.I did test ux2 output sound to check driver instollaltion. But i did'n hear any sound from ux out.I think that the ux2 driver is well instolled in the laptop because i confirmed controll pannel. What is the problem in the situation? diver conflict in the windows 10?

 

Have you checked to see if it's the default sound card for playback? I had mine working on my Win 10 laptop before I gave it away.

Some of these posts make me wonder. I was hoping to get the new models for a B-day gift this year. I'm thinking 5150.

Yea i adjusted my pickups, experimenting too much, untill i made it worse and worse getting far away from the professional set up that i paid a good amount of cash for. I admit i messed his work up. Im curious what can i say. And i wouldnt have messed with em if i was satisfied with the sound to begin with though, so im not entirely at fault, just mostly guilty. I did set them back to factory heights (the poles and the whole pu), and that is why i think it is just my taste vs those 57 pu's, that dont agree. i know for a fact i love the 490/498 set cause i had those in another lp i own.

 

 

Your not the only one curious about experimenting with pick up heights and stuff, as I point to myself, lol. I've got guitars just so I could try whatever I wanted with them and others I haven't done anything but put strings on. This is how I try to learn, experience. Gotta do it to know what gives, ya know what I mean? lol

one of the things i like about the spider IV 15 is that it sounds good at low volume. Partly because im terrible still and mostly because i dont want to let my neighbors know i have anything of value in my place. I live in that kind of place... just south of Oakland Ca. And then there is her, the lady of the house, which is the reason i mostly use headphones. opening the amp up at full volume is not an option. My other amp danelectro is too quiet until i go just pat 0.8 then it jumps to too loud. I cannot even use that amp here and it has a unique sound but the distortion is too fuzzy, so it led me to this spider. Thanks for your tips I WILL definitely revisit the settings using your method. Kinda how i set it up too. I am almost positive that my problem has to do with my pickups, i never took the time to compare the 57's to the 490/498's, but if you do that you find they are worlds apart from each other. Getting all the strings to cut through the lows is a difficult challenge . I want the loudest string to be the last one i play and i want my chords to accent all of the strings in it evenly. Think of the beginning to "Rock Candy". I add that much drive and i cannot hear the high e and b strings hardly at all so pick up adjusting has become a pain for me, when i think the real answer is to replace the 57's with the hotter 490/498 combo...

I JUST NOTICED HOW I AM BABBLING SORRY

 

I can understand not being able to crank the amp up. Whenever I get the opportunity I'll crank my amps up big time and let them sing, lol, which is not often at all. An EQ between the guitar and amp can be used to help cut the lows but you probably already know that. I don't really know the specifics about pick ups but I know they really affect tone. Picks also change tone, speaking of that I've got to try a heavy nylon Herco pick for some dark tones I'm looking for. As for rambling, I think we all do that, lol.

I don't think I'll ever get rid of my DT50HD. If it breaks I'll probably try to get it fixed, even if I've got to send it back to Line 6. Of course, there are limitations. I really like the versatility and sound of it too. I'd hate to see it discontinued. I would love to se it improved.

There should be download button all the way to the right. Might look like an arrow pointing down inside a circle.

thats the one

 

 

 

I have not seen the spider III but im enjoying the IV 15, just wish i knew how to get the right tone im trying to get... i think it might come down to different pickups. I have a 2015 LP studio with a 57 classic and a 57 plus, and i think the tone i am trying to get is that found with 490/498 pickups. But maybe i just need a better knowledge of the tone settings on the amp, Just started getting serious about guitar again, after being a drummer all my life. Always fiddled with it but now im actually turning into a guitarist.

My problem seems to be multiple issues really... i get one thing close but it causes another, example, I am getting way too much quack, like 70's disco wahka wahka wacka, i turn the tone down on the treble and then i cant hear my high e, or b and g strings over the lower e and a. messed with pole height probably made things worse, tried putting back to factory specs and back to the first problem again. its either too muddy or to tinny like am radio compression.

 

I have the same problem too. I've got several guitars and some sound better than others. Also, I've found out I can compensate with my attack on the guitar strings sometimes. I've got an Epiphone Special II tuned to open G that sounds great through it.

 

When ever I try to dial in a tone on one of these kinds of amps I usually pick a model then turn down all the tone stack knobs, no FX, no reverb and turn the master to full. Then with the guitar volume about 30-40% I'll strum the guitar hard to see if any sound passes through the amp. With some models sound passes even with every tone stack knob at 0 so this tells me how sensitive the amp model/channel is. I'll also see what gives when the guitar volume at maxed. Then I start by turning the amp model volume to whatever volume I like. Testing with my attack going along the way. Then I start opening the bass up but leaving the mid and treble cut to see what kind of bass passes and I'll do this with the mid and then the treble to see what passes. Doing it this way you might be surprised with where the knobs actually end up when you find a good setting, lol. Then I add a little drive and turn down the volume and maybe treble. Really it's whatever works for ya. I had to come up with some kind of basis for setting the knobs 'cause it's too easy to get lost with amp modeling, IMO.

 

I also set my Spider Jam the same way. Took me years to figure this out reading and trying things off and on, lol. Plus my playing wasn't all that great when I started, lol. Give it try unless you already have. One thing I noticed about amp modeling is that the master volume needs to up past 70%. I like 100% but 55% at min. IMO. Hope this helps some YMMV.

Brazzy, that must have been too cute. Hope you got it for her... and im glad that my thread put a smile on you. One smile makes it worth it and that was the purpose. (to see if someone would smile). The funny thing is i found the spidy dude, and sat him down on my amp. It was over an hour later that i realized what i had actually done, as it hit me, the amp is also named spider... haha thats when i took the photo. I might not have even made the connection except for i left the red sticker on the amp that was on the showroom floor that says SPIDER IV Million guitarists cant be wrong...it covers 1/3rd of the speaker grill.

 

Thanks for the smile hrroach. She got the rubbery Spider Man and a Barbie, lol. It's funny that you didn't realize exactly what you had done when you put your Spider Man action figure on your Spider IV amp, lol. That's the way I am sometime. Do something and then realize the connection.

 

Also, I still have my Spider III 15 and it sounds pretty good for a small amp. I've had it for about 8 years now. Works great.

 

So you found that toy from 1974? That's cool. Around that time I would've really had fun with that action figure. So that one is 8 inches tall? I found the following picture on google.

Thanks, just happened to find that action figure going through some old boxes. Its from 1974. I like your gif too! 

 

 

I chuckled when I saw your thread had spidey in it 'cause the other day I was at a toy store with my 3 yr. old niece and I found a cool 3 inch tall squishy, rubbery spider man and picked it up. She saw me with it and wanted it, lol. She likes rubber, squishy, stretchy things. She even likes slime, lol.

spidy12.jpg

 

not sure what method i am supposed to use to put a pic in my msg.

Thought you guys might like to see who handles my spider IV 15 controls for me... Hope it works

 

Pretty cool that "Spidey" controls your "Spider" Amp.

Welcome

Yup I've already installed the HD500X driver. The computer already detects HD500x. The only problem is in the Line 6 Monkey software. In HD500X edit software its working good.

This certainly is a new one on me. Have you sent a support ticket to Line 6 yet?

OK, successfully dismantled it (the hardest part was taking the big silver knob off!). No obvious loose connections but I pressed all the ribbon connectors firmly into place, blew out a little dust, removed a couple of strands of glue, and...it seems to be working!

 

Cool, glad it worked for you. Hope it stays working. I've had mine for 8 years now and it's been a great little amp to have fun with.

Thanks! I figured that would be my next step. I tried reinstalling the firmware but it won't recognize there's an SD card in the slot. Hopefully it's a loose connection rather than a fried circuit board. I see instructions for dismantling a Spider Jam on Joe's Jam Blog (via wayback machine) but the pictures aren't archived - I'm going to give that a go.

 

Hope it works for ya. If it works let us know, if you can.

Hi, I get this error when I start up my amp. I've tried a factory reset but it makes no difference. Is there any point my trying to do a firmware update or does this error message indicate that the internal RAM is zapped and I'd be wasting my time?

 

Has anyone replaced the main circuit board in a Spider Jam themselves? Is it a particularly fiddly procedure?

 

I was reading this old thread and at the end someone said the ribbon wires that connect the boards together maybe need to be wiggled, taken off and put on to fix a connection that may've broke over time. Maybe you can get away with just carefully wiggling ribbon connections. I would do that to mine if I had that problem. If you don't feel you can safely open it up and do this go to someone who is experienced so you don't accidently hurt yourself.

 

fullcompass.com has some parts available.

I searched several of the big mailorder music companies today - there were NO new DT 50 units available. Has it been discontinued?

 

It's discontinued but http://www.mattsmusic.com/DT50HD-prod.html

Sounds like your ready to upgrade to one of the HD pods. The UX2 I had worked on Win 10 for me but I recently gave it to my nephew and I'm pretty sure he hasn't enven tried to hook it up, lol.

 

At any rate if you can't get it working just by using Line 6 Monkey to install the drivers and programs such as GearBox or PodFarm and have it working decently it would be time to think about a newer device that has less issues. I remember I had a similar problem like your describing and I went as far as to reinstall the firmware for it, uninstall the drivers, reinstall the drivers and reinstall the programs.

 

There's many things can cause a device like this to no work the way it was intended. I fiddled with the UX2 off and on for years and ended up saving up for an HD500. Huge difference for me.

 

I had a lot of fun with the UX2 though. Hope you get it working.

I've had my 500X close to a couple years now and this tool still amazes me. I recently quit the band I was in because of arthritis problems. I've slowly started playing again for fun and this morning I plugged headphones in for the first time. What a great sound, and the ability to practice without waking everyone is priceless. I'm finding it very useful for fine tuning sounds and setting balances between pre-sets.  LOVE IT!

 

If I could find a sound system that could come close to replicating the sounds I'm getting in my good headphones, I would be thrilled.

 

I've got the HD500 and feel the same way, it's pretty cool and convenient. As for the arthritis I've got it big time especially in my whole spine and major joints. One time I laid on the floor, since there was no place to sit, and the next day I couldn't even open one of those cheap bottles of water. It would slowly go away in the next day or two. Brutal I tell ya.

Hi all

 

New guy here to both Line 6 and the HD500x. Not interested in using the presets and I would like to get right into creating my own tones, using the modeling features to their fullest potential. What are the best resources (vids/tutorials etc.) to start with?

 

Thanks! :)

 

Check out Peter Hanmer's videos sometime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWrRLPRh1A0

THANKS Brazzy :)   

 

Really helpful advice!  I didn't see it for weeks !!!LOL  

 

Well now i can share with you the pics of my beloved EX L6 Set up i use to LOVE and HATE .... LOL   

 

I had to resize the pics down to under 2MB a file so quality not as superb but you can still see what i mean! 

It was a LOUD LOUD LOUD SET but i had to get rid of it !   :(   

 

 

RESPECT !   

 

Shame i didn't know i could register this stuff. If i had registered all my Line 6 stuff from the past i would have had 8-9 registered products but hey! Who knew !   :)   

 

So that's the amp you had all sorts of issues with. I was looking at this amp at one point years ago but couldn't spring for it. Thanks for sharing. BTW the images are very clear to me. Wish you better luck with your next amp.

Thanks gary, I was just thinking since the SJ could record your created music and mic input onto the sd card that just maybe the amp could do the same with the MP3 player. If anyone has tried this whether it worked or not I would like to hear their experiences.

 

I don't think the mp3/cd input can be recorded to the SJ's internal memory. If I recall correctly the last time I used it, it didn't record to the internal memory.

I'm thinking to compare to other multi-FX units which DO specify their dynamic range. The problem is: if you don't know how they define it then you'll be comparing apples to oranges. Fomr what I've seen on the HD500, dynamic range is "very good".

 

This is what I was thinking and BTW, thanks for all your info in the past years.

Thanks guys. the only problem is that i use to own L6 Bogner design head MK1 and i had nothing but problems with it. Unfortunately since then i have not much trust for L6 amps........but again it could have been the one i had that was always going wrong and if i have bought  different then it  would be different story . . . 

first the volume pot went apelollipop and started jumping from 3 to full without even touching it and i hurt my ears number of times....it was hooked up to the 412 line 6 cab so you can imagine what happens when the amp decides to go to full volume just like that....i had to change the pot.....then of course same thing with the EQ pots....dead zones and crazy noise while moving the post so i ended up fixing the head and flogging it!

trouble is that i know others using L6 amps and they couldn't believe when i was telling them all the stuff that was happening to my amp cos they newer had an issue with theirs !!!!!!So i dunno really if i purchased a fixed up faulty head but i just sort of lost my trust to L6 amps....and maybe i should try again with L^ i know but its this gut feeling ..... LOL   :)

 

and again recently i had a another yet AVT150 212 and it decided to die on me as well so .....dunno. think i will try Bugera this time and see what happens. . . 

 

RESPECT!!!!

 

PS:how do i add a picture to the post ? i was gonna show you guys the Bogner design that i use to have sooooo much bad time with !!!!!!

 

You can upload a picture by going to "more reply options" and you'll see "attach files" near the bottom. Click on browse, find your photo, then click "attach the file".

 

I understand about the trust factor. I had issues with my DT50HD. They fixed me up though and it's working pretty good so far. As far the Bugera goes I would take the chance with it if I had the spare dough.

 

Heck, I was having an absolute blast with my Spider Jam this afternoon. It sounds great if I turn the master volume all the way up and then build my patches.

 

Then I took the HD500's L 1/4" analog out and plugged it into the SJ's aux input for a rundown of the full amp models. Sounds pretty good. I'm not really happy unless the Spider Jam's master volume is full open.